Dallas has no weapons - Baldinger

[cnuball21]

Completely agree that it’s Jerry’s fault.

I will say Stephen Jones kept telling everyone including Dak that this would be a problem. “Only a certain amount of pie”.

But yeah at the end of the day the Jones’s did this dumb deal and now the team and fans must suffer.

Yup. Jerry / Stephen have been and remain the main problem IMO. Absolutely terrible at contract negotiation and roster management.

Contract aside, I still think there’s an opportunity to add weapons in the next year or 2. Move on from Zeke, let Schultz walk, restructures etc would go along way.

 

[CATCH17]

Yup. Jerry / Stephen have been and remain the main problem IMO. Absolutely terrible at contract negotiation and roster management.

Contract aside, I still think there’s an opportunity to add weapons in the next year or 2. Move on from Zeke, let Schultz walk, restructures etc would go along way.

Yeah but you start drafting corners, WRs, and RBs with premium picks you eventually look up and your front 7 on defense is weak and your offensive line has holes.

This is why the Rookie QB contract is better than paying the top QB outside of the elite category.

 

[quickccc]

Yeah I just listened. He didn’t say anything we don’t already know. We have no weapons and OC when we have them that doesn’t know how to get them the ball. Last playoff game we had Lamb, Coop, and Wilson and still didn’t use Lamb or Pollard. Time for him to go

Baldy suggested to let a young Steele walk as a FA (Terrence is a restricted FA, not unrestricted) ...while keeping Tyron Smith at RT- for the sake of saving cap money.
vs instead having a much better chance of having your five best OL starters on the field at the same time,

While keeping Steele as young upcoming starter for years to come, and one we well groomed and developed from questionable to very reliable as undrafted

And Tyron even " surprisingly" staying healthy into the playoffs was more catching lighting in a bottle pure luck, and one
I would not want to have to trust enuff to even think about letting a Steele walk.

I think Baldy's idea was/would be a very self-defeatis mindset and ill-advised plan.

 

[cnuball21]

Yeah but you start drafting corners, WRs, and RBs with premium picks you eventually look up and your front 7 on defense is weak and your offensive line has holes.

This is why the Rookie QB contract is better than paying the top QB outside of the elite category.

I never said we can only draft offense.

I mean, in theory yes the rookie QB contract can work. But it still takes a huge amount of luck to hit on the rookie QB unless you’re picking at the top of the draft and you usually need an elite defense + quality running game and weapons. It’s not like you just move on from Dak and it’s an easy path forward.

The notion that we can’t add weapons now bc of Daks contract is simply not true. Jerry just won’t pull the trigger. We were talking to OBJ, Cooks etc just didn’t make the move.

 

[Playmaker3128]

If the qb is gonna take up 20% of the cap you can’t expect to have keep a top 10 defense like we have and also have elite players at every offensive position.

We had a pretty good oline… a number 1 wideout. A good rb combo… a decent te. And a couple decent backup wide receivers.

Sorry but that should be good enough.

 

[CATCH17]

I never said we can only draft offense.

I mean, in theory yes the rookie QB contract can work. But it still takes a huge amount of luck to hit on the rookie QB unless you’re picking at the top of the draft and you usually need an elite defense + quality running game and weapons. It’s not like you just move on from Dak and it’s an easy path forward.

The notion that we can’t add weapons now bc of Daks contract is simply not true. Jerry just won’t pull the trigger. We were talking to OBJ, Cooks etc just didn’t make the move.

We can get similar results with Cooper Rush that we can with Dak.

Dak is a better player than Brock Purdy.

The problem is paying a QB who isn’t Elite like he’s elite.

 

[quickccc]

I'm hoping I heard Baldy mispoke with no weapons, .maybe it's figurative.

- Pollard and Lamb are weapons A-1..
- An Dalton Schultz is a B-tier security blanket -weapon

- After that i have questions among anything else. whether unproven, role specialists, and fifth wheel types
and it's not that we have NO weapons, we don't have ENOUGH weapons.

 

[CATCH17]

If the qb is gonna take up 20% of the cap you can’t expect to have keep a top 10 defense like we have and also have elite players at every offensive position.

We had a pretty good oline… a number 1 wideout. A good rb combo… a decent te. And a couple decent backup wide receivers.

Sorry but that should be good enough.

It’s so simple and people just can’t figure it out.

Even after I hammered this point home long before this dumb deal was done.

 

[cnuball21]

We can get similar results with Cooper Rush that we can with Dak.

Dak is a better player than Brock Purdy.

The problem is paying a QB who isn’t Elite like he’s elite.

No we can’t, and we didn’t. Our PPG jumped almost 2 TDs a game when Dak came back and we had one of the most efficient offenses in football. Their EPAs / play were almost at opposite ends of the spectrum.

And again, the contract is a Jones problem not a Dak problem.

 

[CATCH17]

No we can’t, and we didn’t. Our PPG jumped almost 2 TDs a game when Dak came back and we had one of the most efficient offenses in football. Their EPAs / play were almost at opposite ends of the spectrum.

And again, the contract is a Jones problem not a Dak problem.

I’m talking in terms of winning and losing.

Dak is a better player no doubt but we might be a game or 2 worse without him if that.

Dak’s stats are just fools gold at this point and will cause you to overpay a guy.

Dak is 100% a problem. His contract and inability to live up to it is the Dallas Cowboys #1 problem.

 

[cnuball21]

I’m talking in terms of winning and losing.

Dak is a better player no doubt but we might be a game or 2 worse without him if that.

Dak’s stats are just fools gold at this point and will cause you to overpay a guy.

Dak is 100% a problem. His contract and inability to live up to it is the Dallas Cowboys #1 problem.

If you have actually watched Rush play and think he’s a dude that can realistically sustain 10+ win seasons…woof.

Agree to disagree…strongly.

 

[dckid]

Well, he didn’t actually say that it when it comes down to after Pollard and cd lamb, we have nothing.

Brian baldinger on Dallas ,
CD Lamb was moved around like a 1 - he has stats like a 1 .
He’s not a 1
He’s no chase brown etc
They asked a LOT of him.
He’s a 1B tops - not enough.

After that DALLAS has no weapons after pollard got hurt.

They are in major need of Speed and weapons .

Dak not enough around him .

Horrific early int - he threw that same pick earlier in the year . He didn’t even look just threw it .
Micah Parsons was unbelievable- he blew up their all pro tackle - played the middle v Deebo v kittle - kittle couldn’t block him.
Then played the outside .

But the Dallas D is more Quinn than talent.
If Quinn leaves it’s a disaster .

SF have no weakness anywhere - and Dallas had a legit chance.

SF D zone is unbelievable and completely befuddled Dak.

Tyron Smith handled Bosa - he’s not done .

Hosts wondered about keeping Smith and letting Steele leave - save $10 million .

Philly best secondary in football

SF best LB’s

Philly best in trenches

To restate he really really emphasized that losing Dan Quinn is a disaster

The right thing to do is let go of McCarthy and hire Quinn. Just like Wade Phillips, we should have fired him after the 2007 divisional game loss but didnt. Jerry won't learn his lesson.
The Cardinals fired their head coach one year after giving him a 4 year extension.
Big Mike isn't taking us past this level, he has reached the Peter principle level at this point of his coaching career.
He is content, turnin off the lights at the end of the day. He is happy to let the boy wonder call plays from his basement. It's an embarrassing situation.

This team needs to honestly evaluate the skill positions. Cut Zeke post June 1, let Pollard go out and find a suitor. If someone overpays let them and sign one of the many free agent RB's. There are plenty out there, as a matter of fact you will be surprised how many good players are available.
Kareem Hunt, Penny, Moestert, Jamal Williams, Perine, Matt Breida, Jeff Wilson, of course Jacbos, Pollard, Barkley

You can get some real bargains and these guys will provide a huge spark. Of course there is hardly nothing availabe at the WR spot.

 

[BlueStar22]

I think he could have played better but I think this glosses over the fact Dak did a lot of dumb things this year with the football that had nothing to do with who was playing WR.

The reality is the Dak fans are desperately trying to figure out how to shift responsibility away from him. So we blame the WRs and the OL and Moore and McCarthy and just about everyone else. But what you rarely ever see them say is that the issues with QB play also rest, in part, on Dak. It's almost always, Dak would be great if this and that happened. Or we had this player. Or that player did this. At what point do we start to look at the QB to see if the problems also don't rest with him?

I think he could have played better but I think this glosses over the fact Dak did a lot of dumb things this year with the football that had nothing to do with who was playing WR.

The reality is the Dak fans are desperately trying to figure out how to shift responsibility away from him. So we blame the WRs and the OL and Moore and McCarthy and just about everyone else. But what you rarely ever see them say is that the issues with QB play also rest, in part, on Dak. It's almost always, Dak would be great if this and that happened. Or we had this player. Or that player did this. At what point do we start to look at the QB to see if the problems also don't rest with him?

I'm a Dak fan and yes what happened Sunday fall squarely on him. The problem I have is Dak haters and those who are ready to move on are people who refuse to realize that Dak is just a symptom. He's not the problem with this thing. It's been 28 years, there's been one constant. There have been great players here who've come and gone. There is one constant in 28 years that remains. It is the problem. That won't change so the only left is indifference.

 

[FaSho]

Lamb is not a number one receiver. He’s never wide-open. Almost never. And when he is on a crossing wrote, he drops the ball 50% of the time.

Prove it

 

[kramskoi]

If you think "Dak has no weapons" then you need to watch the youtube from the quarterback school called "Dallas Dumpster Fire". Watching that breakdown leads you to some sobering conclusions:

1. Dak will inexplicably NOT take what the defense gives him...like a hinge route outside against single high safety (1 on 1 coverage).
2. Dak will inexplicably try to make a play against a defense that's really not there to make.
3. Dak will inexplicably get (almost picked-six) on a stick route.
4. Dak will often suffer from an excessive number of hitches...often making him LATE with throws.
5. Dak will often struggle making anticipatory throws...again...being LATE with the ball.

Another 20 million dollar WR will likely not completely solve these issues. Some of them are fundamental to footwork, decision-making, situational awareness, patience, and knowing your damn limitations. He was all over the place against the 49ers.

 

[KJJ]

No he needs to help us. He wanted the contract that makes it difficult to help him because he thought he was good enough to carry the team.

The team paid him the contract and he deserved it when he got it. We all knew heading into this season he was going to be short on weapons. I have posts all this summer saying I didn’t think he would be as good this season with our receiving core. Aaron Rodgers wasn’t as good without Davante Adams. Everyone’s lost some confidence in Dak but to say you would take Kyler Murray over him any day is laughable! Dak’s winning percentage is a lot better than many of the QBs in the league. There’s some issues with his game but he’s giving us a chance. We could do a lot worse at the position, and we would if fans like you were running the team.

 

[kramskoi]

If you think "Dak has no weapons" then you need to watch the youtube from the quarterback school called "Dallas Dumpster Fire". Watching that breakdown leads you to some sobering conclusions:

1. Dak will inexplicably NOT take what the defense gives him...like a hinge route outside against single high safety (1 on 1 coverage).
2. Dak will inexplicably try to make a play against a defense that's really not there to make.
3. Dak will inexplicably get (almost picked-six) on a stick route.
4. Dak will often suffer from an excessive number of hitches...often making him LATE with throws.
5. Dak will often struggle making anticipatory throws...again...being LATE with the ball.

Another 20 million dollar WR will likely not completely solve these issues. Some of them are fundamental to footwork, decision-making, situational awareness, patience, and knowing your damn limitations. He was all over the place against the 49ers.

I'm so glad I didn't watch this game live. Between Moore's incomprehensible route concepts in key situations and Prescott's inconsistencies it's just plain ugly. These two together will not deliver a championship. Not unless something drastically changes. Prescott is well off the reservation and all the interceptions he has had this year is the proof. You could say that he needs to be rebuilt by a new QB coach and OC...along with McCarthy...because that nonsense against the 49ers is just not acceptable. Moreover, the route to a potential superbowl will surely end up going through them, and maybe their quarterback is actually better the next time around.

 

[CATCH17]

The team paid him the contract and he deserved it when he got it. We all knew heading into this season he was going to be short on weapons. I have posts all this summer saying I didn’t think he would be as good this season with our receiving core. Aaron Rodgers wasn’t as good without Davante Adams. Everyone’s lost some confidence in Dak but to say you would take Kyler Murray over him any day is laughable!

For our particular team and what I think a scrambling QB could provide I would take Kyler over Dak.

I can’t imagine how bad AZ would be with Dak as their QB. Dallas potentially would improve.

 

[CATCH17]

Prove it

Lamb proved his worth this year.

He’s elite at his position. It’s clear as day at this point.

 

[WillieBeamen]

Really, really good until he got hurt.

Was talking about against this same team