Dallas very interested in Conley

[Trouty]

So, in the course of an hour, Fisher has gone from "Conley is in play at 28" to "he will go later or may not get drafted at all."

Either he is going to get drafted or he's not. Brilliant. He can't be wrong.

That'll be about tree-fiddy.

 

[erod]

What are his knee issues?

He missed his first two years at Wisconsin with knee injuries.

Guys that struggle to put on weight (like Sean Lee) typically don't have the tendon strength to handle the additional muscle.

You can build muscle strength, but tendon strength doesn't really improve with it. No blood in there.

 

[Trouty]

They drafted Randy Gregory despite having information that he had a drug problem... how did that gamble work out?

To be determined, god willing, Star

 

[JoeKing]

To be determined, god willing, Star

For sure, god willing!!! But the games he has already missed hurt the team.

 

[Sydla]

They did it with Gregory.

Again, the Gregory situation is different. Just because you keep saying "Gregory" doesn't mean it's magically going to be applicable here.

 

[Trouty]

For sure, god willing!!! But the games he has already missed hurt the team.

Oh, absolutely. Here's to praying that he gets that head screwed on straight, brudda.

 

[Proof]

Again, the Gregory situation is different. Just because you keep saying "Gregory" doesn't mean it's magically going to be applicable here.

Pretty much. They didn't go in blindly with Gregory. They weighed the risk vs reward and trusted that they could help him change his life. They were wrong (thus far) but not due to luck.

This Conley scenario is either "we're completely confident he's innocent " or not. If they draft him they're doing so with full confidence

 

[JoeKing]

Again, the Gregory situation is different. Just because you keep saying "Gregory" doesn't mean it's magically going to be applicable here.

As far as the Cowboys are concerned it is the same thing. You can keep pointing out the differences all you want. I think we all know that a drug problem and an accusation of sexual assault are different things. It doesn't change the Cowboys perspective in gambling on a player... they aren't going to get a definitive answer on guilt or innocence by draft time so it's still a gamble.

 

[Proof]

As far as the Cowboys are concerned it is the same thing. You can keep pointing out the differences all you want. I think we all know that a drug problem and an accusation of sexual assault are different things. It doesn't change the Cowboys perspective in gambling on a player... they aren't going to get a definitive answer on guilt or innocence by draft time so it's still a gamble.

It's a very distinct difference. One is due diligence and collective information on an event that has transpired. The other is belief about what may transpire in the future. One you can have with almost utmost certainty, the other no one can have.

 

[JoeKing]

It's a very distinct difference. One is due diligence and collective information on an event that has transpired. The other is belief about what may transpire in the future. One you can have with almost utmost certainty, the other no one can have.

You will never determine Conley's guilt or innocence before draft time, so it will be a gamble to draft him. Do the Cowboys draft players that other teams have passed on for legal problem? They have in the past. I'm just advising to not gamble on Conley.

 

[Idgit]

He missed his first two years at Wisconsin with knee injuries.

Guys that struggle to put on weight (like Sean Lee) typically don't have the tendon strength to handle the additional muscle.

You can build muscle strength, but tendon strength doesn't really improve with it. No blood in there.

Knees get injured for lots of reasons. In Watt's case, they were ligament repairs for a floating kneecap. But there's a big difference between a guy who takes a helmet to the knee and a guy with soft tissue limitations.

I don't know enough about Watt's specific injury to have an informed opinion. What little I read about it sounded like it was a very specific problem that is initially treated with time off and then escalates to a surgical repair if necessary. It sounds like that's what they did. I haven't seen anything to suggest it's necessarily a significant re injury risk or anything to suggest he'd have an elevated risk if he put on weight.

I like Watt for us, but if I were to pick something to worry about, as I said earlier, I'd worry more about whether he could put on the weight legitimately first because Wisconsin does a good job with that already, and then about his relative inexperience early in his career than I would about the knees.

 

[Proof]

You will never determine Conley's guilt or innocence before draft time, so it will be a gamble to draft him. Do the Cowboys draft players that other teams have passed on for legal problem? They have in the past. I'm just advising to not gamble on Conley.

You absolutely can determine it. But it's really not the point. It's nothing like the Gregory situation.

Anyway. I understand your point

 

[CATCH17]

I see that point coming up but if you read some of the scouting reports, it was Conley, not Lattimore, who was often on the opposing team's #1 WR.

Oh Conley has the highest upside at Corner in this draft imo. Lattimore is better right now but I like Conleys upside.

 

[JoeKing]

You absolutely can determine it. But it's really not the point. It's nothing like the Gregory situation.

Anyway. I understand your point

You obviously care nothing about a defendants due process rights. Conley is too great a risk to draft at this time. I pray the man gets a fair and unbiased investigation and trial if it comes to that. I hope he is innocent.

 

[Common Sense]

Apparently they are bringing him in for a DNA sample on Monday. That doesn't bode well for his chances of getting drafted.

 

[Proof]

You obviously care nothing about a defendants due process rights. Conley is too great a risk to draft at this time. I pray the man gets a fair and unbiased investigation and trial if it comes to that. I hope he is innocent.

That's a really odd conclusion to come to. Your "if it comes to that" is exactly the point. It would only "come to that" if innocence wasn't determined quickly, which is an absolute possibility. This is really pointless though. Time to look forward/prepare for the draft. Not get into the weeds over nonsense

 

[Proof]

Apparently they are bringing him in for a DNA sample on Monday. That doesn't bode well for his chances of getting drafted.

LOL. That's so messed up. I understand there are procedures to follow, but the difference between today/tomorrow vs Monday is life altering (assuming he were innocent). Very dickish

 

[mugsybows]

Apparently they are bringing him in for a DNA sample on Monday. That doesn't bode well for his chances of getting drafted.

yeah i think this is the thing that has everyone changing their tune. i mean he could be completely cleared after monday, but the fact that his innocence rests on a test after the draft isnt boding well for his value.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I'd rather have the CBs from LSU or Washington. Conley does not seem like a good fit in this scheme. At least not as a 1st-round pick.

 

[Sydla]

As far as the Cowboys are concerned it is the same thing. You can keep pointing out the differences all you want. I think we all know that a drug problem and an accusation of sexual assault are different things. It doesn't change the Cowboys perspective in gambling on a player... they aren't going to get a definitive answer on guilt or innocence by draft time so it's still a gamble.

No it's not.