Dallas very interested in Conley

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But here's the problem. You aren't investigating Conley and it doesn't matter what information you receive.

If the Cowboys draft him, say in the 2nd round, you can assume they have more than enough information at their disposal to think he's going to be let off here. The Cowboys aren't going to just draft him blindly and keep their fingers crossed that they get lucky here.

I think I read somewhere that teams had access to the video.
 

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Surgery on both knees while in college.

Yeah, but does anybody know what they are? An MCL/ACL reconstruction is on thing, whereas a straight-up ACL repair is a much surer rehabilitation. Once the ACLs are fixed and rehabbed, they hardly even qualify as 'bad' in my book.
 

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Statements such as this (bolded) always baffle me. What could possibly have transpired in the last couple of hours that would make the team cool off on that player, or any other, for that matter? I simply can't fathom that their evaluation of him has changed one iota from what it has been.

I think that Fisher is the one they've "cooled on" as in "cool it with all of the Watt talk jackass!"
 

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Yeah, but does anybody know what they are? An MCL/ACL reconstruction is on thing, whereas a straight-up ACL repair is a much surer rehabilitation. Once the ACLs are fixed and rehabbed, they hardly even qualify as 'bad' in my book.

End of 2013 - dislocated right knee cap and tore the MPFL. Opted to let it heal on its own instead of surgery.

Spring 2014 - same thing happened to left knee. Again opted to let heal on its own, no surgery.

Fall of 2014 - right MPFL tore again. Opted for surgery.

Spring of 2015 - left MPFL tore again. Opted for surgery.
 

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End of 2013 - dislocated right knee cap and tore the MPFL. Opted to let it heal on its own instead of surgery.

Spring 2014 - same thing happened to left knee. Again opted to let heal on its own, no surgery.

Fall of 2014 - right MPFL tore again. Opted for surgery.

Spring of 2015 - left MPFL tore again. Opted for surgery.
Geez...
 

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So, in the course of an hour, Fisher has gone from "Conley is in play at 28" to "he will go later or may not get drafted at all."

Either he is going to get drafted or he's not. Brilliant. He can't be wrong.

That'll be about tree-fiddy.
 

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But here's the problem. You aren't investigating Conley and it doesn't matter what information you receive.

If the Cowboys draft him, say in the 2nd round, you can assume they have more than enough information at their disposal to think he's going to be let off here. The Cowboys aren't going to just draft him blindly and keep their fingers crossed that they get lucky here.
They drafted Randy Gregory despite having information that he had a drug problem... how did that gamble work out?
 

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They drafted Randy Gregory despite having information that he had a drug problem... how did that gamble work out?

And they thought they could get him to rehab, which they couldn't. This a different situation. To try to equate the two shows you just don't get it. You aren't relying on a player making significant life changes like they would have had with Gregory. It's an either or with Conley. Is he guilty or is he not. It's not the same type of situation.

And hey, they drafted Smith before anyone else did and at this point based on information they had and so far, it's looking like the risk may actually pay off at some point.
 

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Don't believe any of this garbage being thrown out, it's just spin by the media idiots!!......Do You people really think NFL teams are that stupid to foreshadow who'd they really like prior to the draft to the media...
 

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And they thought they could get him to rehab, which they couldn't. This a different situation. To try to equate the two shows you just don't get it. You aren't relying on a player making significant life changes like they would have had with Gregory. It's an either or with Conley. Is he guilty or is he not. It's not the same type of situation.

And hey, they drafted Smith before anyone else did and at this point based on information they had and so far, it's looking like the risk may actually pay off at some point.
The point is the Cowboys do gamble on picks. They may gamble on picking Conley but at this point I would advise against it.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised in the least if the Cowboys took Conley in the 2nd round, although extremely disappointed if they did so in round one. Another said to be in the running for the late 2nd round that the Cowboys are enamored with is safety Obi Melifonwu, who is well known to be an Indy Combine "workout wonder." He's considered by many to be raw with a high upside and by others to be someone who "looks like Tarzan and plays like Jane." Both would seemingly be in keeping with the team's penchant for welcoming somewhat risky 2nd round candidates. Candidly, I'd be just a bit guarded in my enthusiasm if either one materialized.
 
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Why do you want a guy who puts himself in such a situation?

He's lost millions of dollars because he put himself there.

So you want a dumb guy who doesn't fit cover two and may end up in jail.

At least be fair and call him an "accused rapist" or something similar. Otherwise it appears as though you have an agenda.

Last I checked he was still innocent until proven guilty. If guilty I will be in line to say put him under the jail but until then its seems premature to call him a "rapist".
 

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End of 2013 - dislocated right knee cap and tore the MPFL. Opted to let it heal on its own instead of surgery.

Spring 2014 - same thing happened to left knee. Again opted to let heal on its own, no surgery.

Fall of 2014 - right MPFL tore again. Opted for surgery.

Spring of 2015 - left MPFL tore again. Opted for surgery.

Awesome. Thanks for finding that. I'd looked for info but didn't come up with anything.

Just looking briefly, it looks like the MPFL corrective outcomes are close, but not quite as reliable as ACL corrections these days. So, he's at a somewhat elevated risk of re-injury.
 

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I am sleeping on it because it will be big problem if Dallas doesn't go DE at 28. CB depth goes all the way into 5th round. DE depth does not.
Exactly. Plus we keep putting resources into the secondary and it hasn't worked anyway.

We expect to get big early leads and play deep coverage so CB should be devalued. Get athletes to chase Aaron Rodgers around who beat us with his legs two times in a row
 

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The point is the Cowboys do gamble on picks. They may gamble on picking Conley but at this point I would advise against it.

No one denied that they take risks.

The real point here is that the Cowboys wouldn't take Conley for ***** and giggles without a pretty good understanding of the case and investigation. So they'll weigh the risk that he could still be incarcerated versus the pick and value at that pick.

And again, this is nothing like taking Gregory.
 

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No one denied that they take risks.

The real point here is that the Cowboys wouldn't take Conley for ****s and giggles without a pretty good understanding of the case and investigation. So they'll weigh the risk that he could still be incarcerated versus the pick and value at that pick.

And again, this is nothing like taking Gregory.
The Cowboys aren't going to just draft him blindly and keep their fingers crossed that they get lucky here.
They did it with Gregory.
 
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