Dalvin Tomlinson fined for sack on Dak Prescott

[Streifenkarl]

RULE 12, PLAYER CONDUCT, ARTICLE 11. ROUGHING THE PASSER (link):

Because the act of passing often puts the quarterback (or any other player attempting a pass) in a position where he is particularly vulnerable to injury, special rules against roughing the passer apply. Players in a passing posture are considered to be a player in a defenseless posture. Any physical acts against a player who is in a passing posture (i.e. before, during, or after a pass) which, in the game official’s judgment, are unwarranted by the circumstances of the play will be called as fouls. The following principles apply:​

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(b) A rushing defender is prohibited from committing such intimidating and punishing acts as “stuffing” a passer into the ground or unnecessarily wrestling or driving him down after the passer has thrown the ball, even if the rusher makes his initial contact with the passer within the one-step limitation provided for in (a) above. When tackling a passer who is in a defenseless posture (e.g., during or just after throwing a pass), a defensive player must not unnecessarily or violently throw him down or land on top of him with all or most of the defender’s weight. Instead, the defensive player must strive to fall to the side of the quarterback’s body, or to brace his fall with his arms to avoid landing on the quarterback with all or most of his body weight.​

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Yeah. It is going to get called. And it will increasingly get called as more quarterback contracts continue approaching the half billion-dollar mark.

Quarterback is, literally, the costliest one in the sport. Owners shell out that money. They will attempt to protect their most expensive asset.

Some fans will not like it and disagree. Get ready to disagree and disagree all the time. So, start up the 'put a skirt on them then' and 'IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR A DEFENSIVE PLAYER TO NOT DO THAT!!!' reactions because it is what it is.

I honestly never cared about their contracts and how much a player makes. But if that is the consequence, it's absolute rubbish. QBs should be free to hit like anyone else.

 

[5Stars]

I honestly never cared about their contracts and how much a player makes. But if that is the consequence, it's absolute rubbish. QBs should be free to hit like anyone else.

I'm not really sure, but it looked like Dak held onto the ball for a little to long. He must have not had anywhere to throw the ball, so he got smacked down.

 

[DallasEast]

I honestly never cared about their contracts and how much a player makes. But if that is the consequence, it's absolute rubbish. QBs should be free to hit like anyone else.

Bold> It is what it is.

 

[RonnieT24]

There has always been varying degrees of quarterback play throughout NFL history, including poor play. There is poor quarterback play demonstrated right now (see Deshaun Watson last Sunday).

What has changed over time is the enormous investment owners put into one position. Owners want a return on that huge investment. And they do not get anything in return if that investment is not ON the field.

Seriously. With all due respect, let's keep real.

Yes Watson was bad... but imagine if he had been knocked out and his backup had been knocked out and they trotted out a receiver or maybe even the punter (a lot of them were high school QBs too) to take snaps. Yes money plays a HUGE part, no one can argue that.. but I also think the league needs to put a good product on the field and on TV or people quit watchin and if people quit watchin you know what happens next right?

 

[CCBoy]

There has always been varying degrees of quarterback play throughout NFL history, including poor play. There is poor quarterback play demonstrated right now (see Deshaun Watson last Sunday).

What has changed over time is the enormous investment owners put into one position. Owners want a return on that huge investment. And they do not get anything in return if that investment is not ON the field.

Seriously. With all due respect, let's keep real.

Football is physical...fact. Cheap shots are more than sport. Knock him out, but within game respectables. League indicated integrity guidelines.

Base level, there was no center of gravity advantage on the helpless quarterback for his own protection.

 

[DallasEast]

Yes Watson was bad... but imagine if he had been knocked out and his backup had been knocked out and they trotted out a receiver or maybe even the punter (a lot of them were high school QBs too) to take snaps. Yes money plays a HUGE part, no one can argue that.. but I also think the league needs to put a good product on the field and on TV or people quit watchin and if people quit watchin you know what happens next right?

What happens next is that the league loses viewers. Your point is an ending consequence. Let us review the entire set of circumstances from the owners' perspective:

1. Makes a quarter billion-dollar investment
2. Expects quarter billion-dollar investment to perform at a level helps the team play at a high effective level
3. Team playing at a high effective level attracts and retains fans (a.k.a. viewers)
4. Retaining and growing team's audience translates into greater revenue

Now. Again. You are accurately emphasizing the last step above. Question. What happens if you remove step one above?

 

[DallasEast]

Football is physical...fact. Cheap shots are more than sport. Knock him out, but within game respectables. League indicated integrity guidelines.

Base level, there was no center of gravity advantage on the helpless quarterback for his own protection.

 

[AsthmaField]

RULE 12, PLAYER CONDUCT, ARTICLE 11. ROUGHING THE PASSER (link):

Because the act of passing often puts the quarterback (or any other player attempting a pass) in a position where he is particularly vulnerable to injury, special rules against roughing the passer apply. Players in a passing posture are considered to be a player in a defenseless posture. Any physical acts against a player who is in a passing posture (i.e. before, during, or after a pass) which, in the game official’s judgment, are unwarranted by the circumstances of the play will be called as fouls. The following principles apply:​

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(b) A rushing defender is prohibited from committing such intimidating and punishing acts as “stuffing” a passer into the ground or unnecessarily wrestling or driving him down after the passer has thrown the ball, even if the rusher makes his initial contact with the passer within the one-step limitation provided for in (a) above. When tackling a passer who is in a defenseless posture (e.g., during or just after throwing a pass), a defensive player must not unnecessarily or violently throw him down or land on top of him with all or most of the defender’s weight. Instead, the defensive player must strive to fall to the side of the quarterback’s body, or to brace his fall with his arms to avoid landing on the quarterback with all or most of his body weight.​

_________________________

Yeah. It is going to get called. And it will increasingly get called as more quarterback contracts continue approaching the half billion-dollar mark.

Quarterback is, literally, the costliest one in the sport. Owners shell out that money. They will attempt to protect their most expensive asset.

Some fans will not like it and disagree. Get ready to disagree and disagree all the time. So, start up the 'put a skirt on them then' and 'IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR A DEFENSIVE PLAYER TO NOT DO THAT!!!' reactions because it is what it is.

That second gif looks to me like there was some helmet-to-helmut contact there as well, though it is brief (but substantial).

 

[Nexx]

that's weak **

 

[jblaze2004]

I'm assuming he landed on him with his body weight.

However disgusting to get fined for that. I'm all about player safety however that is some high-school tackling ****. Seen rougher hits in soccer back in the day

That is why he was fined. You can no longer put your full body weight on a QB when sacking them. Which I believe is bull crap but this is the new NFL trying to protect QB's I was screaming for a flag when it happened live because that is a flaggable offense. And I believe he hit with a helmet straight to Dak's facemask. He didn't even try to move his head when tackling which is another flaggable offense. Dak doesn't get the calls that QB's like Allen and Mahomes do.

 

[jblaze2004]

btw Zack Martin got abused on that play.

 

[gtb1943]

There are many who will tell you that he's never lost a block, committed a penalty & is still the best G in the league.

Insanity is strong on this board.

there are a few like you that hate a player for no good reason

 

[gtb1943]

The rule is stupid. Like many of the new NFL rules its all about PR rather than reality

 

[CCBoy]

that's weak **

If that is your personal stance...you're weak.

 

[Scotman]

Other than him landing with his full weight on Dak. Which is against the rules.

Yeah, I get it. I guess it was there if they fined him for it. It didn't look like he landed full-body weight to me.

 

[McKDaddy]

there are a few like you that hate a player for no good reason

Saying he is no longer the player he once was is hate?

I don't hate the player, I hate posters who don't know what they are talking about.