Damn The NFL Network

[theogt]

They've got you snowed good bro.

DTV's (normal) pictures is superior to a digital cable picture.
Bellsouth's Extreme DSL is far superior to cable's shared internet connection when you measure consistency of connection over a 24 hour window of time.
I've had less service interruption with DTV than I ever had with cable. MY DSL also never goes down. These are all opinions of course. Very strong ones. I had cable in my house for 5 years. Never again.

My folks had DTV for several years. They recently switched to cable. Much better quality picture. The difference was obvious because my dad has a 50+ inch HDTV. Also, the idea that DSL is superior to cable is laughable, unless it's just really really low quality cable internet. DSL is almost universally slower the cable.

 

[warren smith]

You ask about the future? The current profit margin isn't big enough for the NFL. Besides no TV, yes, this is just the beginning of what awaits the regular fan as far as handing out more money just to watch a sporting event. If you go to a game you pay about $12-15 to park, then a program, food, and the $65-85 per ticket. Now NFLNetwork pokes you in the eye. Prices going up for everything else, except your annual cost of living raise can't keep up with these price hikes. So, eventually fans will decide that eating and paying the rent is more important than buying tickets, and jerseys, & trinkets (made in China for nickels), right? Right? Wait until Jerry finishes building his Taj Mahal stadium, OTRCE (Only The Rich Can Enter). Yes, the end is near, for many of us. Happy Holidays.

 

[Chuck 54]

From what I've learned, cable or directTV, everything still depends on where you live. Due to the competition, Comcast aren't quite the ***** they used to be.

I built a new, smaller house after my divorce 5 years ago...I went in myself before the sheetrock was put in and ran CAT5 wiring to every room, along with top coax cables...then I had to switch from dialup to cable because the phone company explained to me that the CAT5 wiring in my house meant nothing because the phone service delivered to my neighborhood was through older, above ground wiring, and my reception would never be of better quality until the phone company reran all their connecting lines.

So on to comcast basic cable and high speed internet service...a service that disconnects several times a year, sometimes for days at a time. You call the cable company, and despite having a long history of complaints, they won't send anyone to check outside until after someone checks inside your house...so you stay home and meet with them, so they can tell you everything's fine inside...the problem for 5 years has been the lower quality signal being sent to my neighborhood...they do little things to boost the signal and I get my internet back, but the signal is always low.

That's why I refuse to switch to digital cable and pay more (all their great deals and incentives for digital cable, internet, and phone apply only to new subscribers, not those of us upgrading)...I refuse to pay more for digital when it all still runs through the same lines and boxes that currently send lower than ideal signals.

Competition is the only thing keeping me sane and now giving me people who at least act like they care...however, listening to those of you talking about DSL is making me consider dropping comcast altogether and going with directTV and DSL....the only reason I was holding back was I didn't think I could stand going back to slower internet after being spoiled by cable.

I guess I should learn more about DSL....I have 3 kids in college this year, so money has been tight...thanks for all the ideas in what started out as a bit@# thread

 

[mwj473]

I don't understand all of the complaining about the NFL network games. If the game was still on Sunday, you wouldn't see it either. And if you did, it would be replacing another game that you will now see on Sunday since this game is on Saturday. So, what is it everyone is actually complaing about? If you do not have NFL Network, you saw 5 games a weekend last year (3 Sunday afternoon, 1 Sunday night, & 1 Monday night). Well guess what, this year you get the exact same 5 games, nothing has been taken away from you. Now, if you do have NFL Network, you get to see 6-7 games per weekend due to the Saturday & Thursday night games.

None of this affects me due to I have Sunday ticket, but I don't understand all of the complaining.

Basically, when you see all of these coverage maps for this weekend, some of the people that see the Dallas game this weekend might not be able to if the Giants-Commanders game was on Sunday afternoon instead.

 

[CowboyManDan]

My folks had DTV for several years. They recently switched to cable. Much better quality picture. The difference was obvious because my dad has a 50+ inch HDTV. Also, the idea that DSL is superior to cable is laughable, unless it's just really really low quality cable internet. DSL is almost universally slower the cable.

When there isn't a lot of cable traffic use, then cable is faster than dsl. But dsl is more consistent in its speeds whereas cable fluctuates based upon use. Cable connections tend to be susceptible to slowdowns during times of heavy cable-TV use in your neighborhood. You probably notice slowdowns in the late afternoon and early evening hours, as well as during favorite TV times such as Sunday nights.

I just got Verizon FIOS internet which is a fiber optic line and so far so good.

As fas as DirecTV, I have it and think satisfaction is definitely based on how good of a signal the dish on each house gets. If you live in a heavily wooded area, you might not even be able to get a HD signal if the angle to your dish isn't right (like me). I have sunday ticket which is nice (and expensive), but am considering switching to the Verzion FIOS tv. Only bummer is I won't be able to watch every cowboy game form home unless the nfl allows sunticket to other providers.

 

[Aikbach]

Anyone know why Houston gets no free preview?

 

[Bleu Star]

My folks had DTV for several years. They recently switched to cable. Much better quality picture. The difference was obvious because my dad has a 50+ inch HDTV. Also, the idea that DSL is superior to cable is laughable, unless it's just really really low quality cable internet. DSL is almost universally slower the cable.

When you rate speed you rate consistency. There is no way cable internet beats my DSL extreme 6.0 over a 24 hour period of time. I have my own digital subscriber line that absolutely rocks! I'm not sharing my connection with anyone that's going to clog up the bandwidth during peak hours (usually 6-9pm). Rather than schedule my time around any particular hours of the day I went to DSL. I've never been happier and won't ever go back to cable. Mind you, I have been dealing with Mediacom. I'm sure there's a vast difference between the quality offered by the Mediacoms of the word and saayyy Comcast. all personal opinion.

The picture quality? That's very debatable as well. When cable offers me NFL Season Ticket, NBA League Pass, all NFL games in HD, as well as a consistently fast and reliable internet connection then, and only then, would I even entertain any thought of switching back. I won't be holding my breath on that.

 

[eduncan22]

i hate dish, i used to have that pos and the signal would go out every time it snowed, or rained cats and dogs, and it went out with high winds.

go with digital cable

If you love Football, then DirecTV is your friend.

Do NOT purchase Dish network.

Sunday Ticket is worth every dollar.

 

[theogt]

Even in "peak times" when cable is supposedly clogged it's faster than DSL.

 

[Bleu Star]

I just got Verizon FIOS internet which is a fiber optic line and so far so good.

oooooooooh. Let's not even start talking about FIOS!!! I start drooling every time I think about having it. It's not available in my area yet but with this DSL my speeds are a consistent 6 Mbps down/512 Kbps up. So I am well pacified for now.

 

[Bleu Star]

Sunday Ticket is worth every dollar.

 

[superpunk]

Over the summer, wayne, I wanted the HD receiver, for football, but as an existing customer, I'd have to purchase everything a new customer got for free. So, I called, said I was very unhappy about that, and asked what they could do for me. They gave me all the equipment for free, movie channels free for a year, 10 dollars off my bill forever, Sunday Ticket Superfan for free, and a 50 dollar credit to my account.

No way I would have ever had that result with cable, who i could never get to give me the time of day. DirecTV is incredible. Unless you plan on enormous downloads, online gaming, etc. DSL (I have mine through Sprint) is great. I play Madden online with my PS2 and there is never any problem with lag or anything.

 

[FiveTime]

If you are losing your signal during high winds and/or more than a few times during the very worst storms then you likely have an installation problem. We haven't had any lost signals since we resubscribed to DTV in August after suffering through Mediacom for the prior 8 months.

Before trying Mediacom we had DirecTV for ~ 5 years. We live in the middle of Iowa and the only lost signals that we had were either during storms where we should have been taking cover (ominous green/dark sky) due to tornado warnings or extremely wet snow that sticks on the dish. High winds have never caused a problem.

As far as quality of picture, I only have Mediacom to compare. Other companies may be better. Not all Mediacom channels are digital, including ESPN. Only the channels that require the cable box are digital. We have a projector with a 16:9 108" diagonal screen. DirecTV has an obiously better picture, especially on local and non-digital channels.

It isn't the NFL that is screwing you, it is the cable companies' refusal to come to terms that is the problem. Mediacom subscribers in this area are going to lose CBS as of January 5 unless there is a last second change. They have been in negotiations for quite a while and extended the deadline once but have not been able to renew there contract with the local carrier.

 

[theogt]

Over the summer, wayne, I wanted the HD receiver, for football, but as an existing customer, I'd have to purchase everything a new customer got for free. So, I called, said I was very unhappy about that, and asked what they could do for me. They gave me all the equipment for free, movie channels free for a year, 10 dollars off my bill forever, Sunday Ticket Superfan for free, and a 50 dollar credit to my account.

No way I would have ever had that result with cable, who i could never get to give me the time of day. DirecTV is incredible. Unless you plan on enormous downloads, online gaming, etc. DSL (I have mine through Sprint) is great. I play Madden online with my PS2 and there is never any problem with lag or anything.

Well, most cable companies would have charged you in the first place for the different receiver. That's like having a company mark up their prices, then giving you a discount, and you being happy about it.

 

[Chuck 54]

I don't understand all of the complaining about the NFL network games. If the game was still on Sunday, you wouldn't see it either. And if you did, it would be replacing another game that you will now see on Sunday since this game is on Saturday. So, what is it everyone is actually complaing about? If you do not have NFL Network, you saw 5 games a weekend last year (3 Sunday afternoon, 1 Sunday night, & 1 Monday night). Well guess what, this year you get the exact same 5 games, nothing has been taken away from you. Now, if you do have NFL Network, you get to see 6-7 games per weekend due to the Saturday & Thursday night games.

None of this affects me due to I have Sunday ticket, but I don't understand all of the complaining.

Basically, when you see all of these coverage maps for this weekend, some of the people that see the Dallas game this weekend might not be able to if the Giants-Commanders game was on Sunday afternoon instead.

At the end of the season there are always some Saturday games, and in the past, they were always broadcast for all to see...that's my problem...it's the only game on and I can't see it...that's why I'm complaining.

 

[Bleu Star]

If you are losing your signal during high winds and/or more than a few times during the very worst storms then you likely have an installation problem. We haven't had any lost signals since we resubscribed to DTV in August after suffering through Mediacom for the prior 8 months.

Before trying Mediacom we had DirecTV for ~ 5 years. We live in the middle of Iowa and the only lost signals that we had were either during storms where we should have been taking cover (ominous green/dark sky) due to tornado warnings or extremely wet snow that sticks on the dish. High winds have never caused a problem.

As far as quality of picture, I only have Mediacom to compare. Other companies may be better. Not all Mediacom channels are digital, including ESPN. Only the channels that require the cable box are digital. We have a projector with a 16:9 108" diagonal screen. DirecTV has an obiously better picture, especially on local and non-digital channels.

It isn't the NFL that is screwing you, it is the cable companies' refusal to come to terms that is the problem. Mediacom subscribers in this area are going to lose CBS as of January 5 unless there is a last second change. They have been in negotiations for quite a while and extended the deadline once but have not been able to renew there contract with the local carrier.

Another Mediacon defector. Bravo!

:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:

 

[Chuck 54]

Over the summer, wayne, I wanted the HD receiver, for football, but as an existing customer, I'd have to purchase everything a new customer got for free. So, I called, said I was very unhappy about that, and asked what they could do for me. They gave me all the equipment for free, movie channels free for a year, 10 dollars off my bill forever, Sunday Ticket Superfan for free, and a 50 dollar credit to my account.

HOly $#it....Wow.

 

[mwj473]

At the end of the season there are always some Saturday games, and in the past, they were always broadcast for all to see...that's my problem...it's the only game on and I can't see it...that's why I'm complaining.

That is a fare assessment and had not thought of that, you are right in that aspect, hopefully you get NFL network soon.

 

[kingwhicker]

I just signed up for DirectTV- it was $20 cheaper than Time Warner Digital Cable with HBO & DVR. With Direct I'm getting Showtime & Starz and DVR plus the NFL Network- We'll see how it goes. My digital cable was constantly glitching out and the DVR was terrible- cutting off things and not recording things it was supposed to.

 

[twa]

Anyone know why Houston gets no free preview?

Cause Houston sucks???

from your neighbor in Stinkadena