Dan Campbell Pulled a Bellichick

[BoysForLife]

Stupid thread. Move on

Seriously if McCarthy did this people would be hailing him as a genius and acting like we got hosed for them reversing it

 

[BoysForLife]

You missed the point dude. The who purpose was to circumnavigate the rules and disenfranchise the cowboys. The only way this slob could win the game. It is classic Bill Bellichick rule breaking akin to stealing calls, deflating footballs, and other plays.

You know you're on the edge of losing it when you call Dan Campbell (who looks like he could compete in MMA right now) "a slob" who tried to "disenfranchise" the Cowboys

DISENFRANCHISE?!?!

It's a football game. He tried to get cute to gain a competitive advantage and the refs made the right call. Nothing more, nothing less.

Good grief.

 

[Starstruck22]

I have no problem with Campbell trying to be slick and gain an advantage.

It just didn’t work. So now they gotta deal with the consequence.

Being slick and cheating two different things my friend. Was Bellichick slick or a cheater in deflating balls and stealing signals. It’s a slipper slope when we start to believe cheating is acceptable when it comes to winning. Violating the spirit of the law is cheating. If their plan worked in confusing dallas and the refs, and they won, knowing that they won because dallas was misinformed about the eligible receiver, would this have been slick or cheating? It is clearly the latter.

 

[Starstruck22]

You know you're on the edge of losing it when you call Dan Campbell (who looks like he could compete in MMA right now) "a slob" who tried to "disenfranchise" the Cowboys

DISENFRANCHISE?!?!

It's a football game. He tried to get cute to gain a competitive advantage and the refs made the right call. Nothing more, nothing less.

Good grief.

Cheating is cheating. He tried to make sure Dallas did not know who was eligible. The whole point of the rule is to let Dallas know this which is fair. With your logic, we should get rid of the rule which is there for a purpose. But violating the spirit of it is not fair and not competitive. It is crooked. It is not a level playing field with cheaters like this guy and Bellichick who have no moral compass.

 

[Cowboys22]

I think I get what took place.

But I dont see how it is supposed to work if Dallas is allowed to know who is eligible?

Doesnt make sense to me unless Detroit is just hoping it confuses a Dallas player even when the eligible guy is identified.

I just dont really get this form of deception. I get that you leave no leaf unturned in an attempt to win...but this is just kind of a waste of energy to me.

The plan was that if the refs actually caught it and threw the flag, they would argue that 68 did report. That is why 3 OL went to the ref. To create purposeful confusion for Dallas and the refs. They wanted the ref to 2nd guess himself after the fact and pick up the flag but he was not having it. Basically they outsmarted themselves when they probably could have just run a basic play and scored on a Dallas defense that was reeling. They got what they deserved by trying to confuse everyone and the rules.

 

[BoysForLife]

Cheating is cheating. He tried to make sure Dallas did not know who was eligible. The whole point of the rule is to let Dallas know this which is fair. It would only be reasonable to get rid of the rule if it makes no sense. But violating the spirit of it is not fair and not competitive. It is crooked.

Ok, then say he tried to twist the rules and got busted, and move on. Correct call was made. Maybe there's not a league wide ref conspiracy to hose the Cowboys week in and week out. That's good news, right?

Calling him a "slob" who tried to "disenfranchise" the Cowboys reeks of a persecution complex. Dude took an absolute garbage team over a couple years ago and had them knocking on the door of a 2 seed shortly thereafter. I admire what he's done. Guy should legitimately be heavily considered for NFL coach of the year.

 

[Starstruck22]

The plan was that if the refs actually caught it and threw the flag, they would argue that 68 did report. That is why 3 OL went to the ref. To create purposeful confusion for Dallas and the refs. They wanted the ref to 2nd guess himself after the fact and pick up the flag but he was not having it. Basically they outsmarted themselves when they probably could have just run a basic play and scored on a Dallas defense that was reeling. They got what they deserved by trying to confuse everyone and the rules.

IT WAS CHEATING PEOPLE! Confusion yes but cheating. What we have lost in America is a clear moral compass and what constitutes law breaking. Circumnavigating the law is cheating. That is what they tried. It is cheating.

 

[Starstruck22]

Ok, then say he tried to twist the rules and got busted, and move on. Correct call was made. Maybe there's not a league wide ref conspiracy to hose the Cowboys week in and week out. That's good news, right?

Calling him a "slob" who tried to "disenfranchise" the Cowboys reeks of a persecution complex. Dude took an absolute garbage team over a couple years ago and had them knocking on the door of a 2 seed shortly thereafter. I admire what he's done. Guy should legitimately be heavily considered for NFL coach of the year.

Im glad you’re happy about a guy who has no respect for right and wrong. I am calling a spade a spade. I don’t respect cheaters. I dont respect Bellichick. But this all comes to light eventually. Campbell has made it clear he will do anything to win, cheating or not. It will come back to bite him down the road. He will not be seen as great but as a rule breaker.

 

[Cowboys22]

IT WAS CHEATING PEOPLE! Confusion yes but cheating. What we have lost in America is a clear moral compass and what constitutes law breaking. Circumnavigating the law is cheating. That is what they tried. It is cheating.

You certainly can make that case. Some may say that was just gamesmanship but I think you are more correct. If they would have succeeded in confusing everyone to the point where they got away with not reporting and illegal formation, they I’d say for sure that is cheating.

 

[Starstruck22]

Ok, then say he tried to twist the rules and got busted, and move on. Correct call was made. Maybe there's not a league wide ref conspiracy to hose the Cowboys week in and week out. That's good news, right?

Calling him a "slob" who tried to "disenfranchise" the Cowboys reeks of a persecution complex. Dude took an absolute garbage team over a couple years ago and had them knocking on the door of a 2 seed shortly thereafter. I admire what he's done. Guy should legitimately be heavily considered for NFL coach of the year.

And yes cheaters are slobs. You can extoll their virtues minimize. I don not. Believe it or not there still is right and wrong despite a majority who no longer believe this.

 

[nightrain]

I love Campbell's coaching style. He has turned that dead franchise around. Definitely a Parcell's guy.

 

[Starstruck22]

You certainly can make that case. Some may say that was just gamesmanship but I think you are more correct. If they would have succeeded in confusing everyone to the point where they got away with not reporting and illegal formation, they I’d say for sure that is cheating.

Thank you my brother! You got it. Many will not, especially without a moral compass. Like I said, there is misdirection, motion, and all sorts of things the offense can do to confuse a defense all within the spirit of the law. Manipulating the laws and violating the spirit of the rule, which is to be fair to dallas, was what was a premeditated plan of Campbells. I guarantee you, going forward he has signaled there is nothing he will not transgress to win. This is a very, very bad thing for him and the nfl. And he got an officiating crew fired. We have not heard the end of this and suspect we will see other attempts to cheat to win.

 

[Starstruck22]

I love Campbell's coaching style. He has turned that dead franchise around. Definitely a Parcell's gui d

Coaching styles that include cheating shound be an abomination and not emulated.

 

[nightrain]

Coaching styles that include cheating shound be an abomination and not emulated.

LOL. You can't really be that naive. Pull your bait in, no one taking it here.

 

[Starstruck22]

And a persons reputation as person is more important than winnning. I would rather lose and be respected for my integrity than win as a crook.

 

[Starstruck22]

LOL. You can't really be that naive. Pull your bait in, no one taking it here.

No naïveté at all. Just the facts mam. And morals. Believe it or not there are a few of us here that still believe in right and wrong. People who are unscrupulous are the naive and will receive their just desserts. I guarantee you with have not seen the last of Campbells unethical behavior, it will be a millstone around his neck and hamstring any hopes of being reputable.

 

[BoysForLife]

And yes cheaters are slobs. You can extoll their virtues minimize. I don not. Believe it or not there still is right and wrong despite a majority who no longer believe this.

I believe it. There is right and wrong, there is good and evil. There's a constant battle, both seen and unseen, between these opposing forces and viewpoints. You don't have to convince me.

I have a suggestion for you. If you truly believe what you have posted then you should consider quitting watching football right now, for the rest of your life. Because there are league wide rules against PEDs in place. And if you honestly believe that there aren't a sizeable amount of NFL players (including, horror of horrors, probably even a few Cowboys) skirting or outright violating those rules under the radar in order to gain a competitive advantage, then I don't know what to tell you other than you're delusional

So you need to show your disgust with those "slobs" and quit watching. If you're serious about this argument. They are doing something they know is against the rules, they're trying to gain an advantage, and they're trying to get away with it. So show us all how consistent you are in your stance by walking away from the NFL, forever.


So I guess we'll see you next week, right?

 

[BoysForLife]

LOL. You can't really be that naive. Pull your bait in, no one taking it here.

I honestly think he's serious.

But I also think he's incredibly naive. If he doesn't think all sorts of stuff either on the edge of, or outright well outside, the rules doesn't go on every week in the NFL.

 

[Starstruck22]

I believe it. There is right and wrong, there is good and evil. There's a constant battle, both seen and unseen, between these opposing forces and viewpoints. You don't have to convince me.

I have a suggestion for you. If you truly believe what you have posted then you should consider quitting watching football right now, for the rest of your life. Because there are league wide rules against PEDs in place. And if you honestly believe that there aren't a sizeable amount of NFL players (including, horror of horrors, probably even a few Cowboys) skirting or outright violating those rules under the radar in order to gain a competitive advantage, then I don't know what to tell you other than you're delusional

So you need to show your disgust with those "slobs" and quit watching. If you're serious about this argument. They are doing something they know is against the rules, they're trying to gain an advantage, and they're trying to get away with it. So show us all how consistent you are in your stance by walking away from the NFL, forever.


So I guess we'll see you next week, right?

Just the facts mam. I dont quit life because there are cheaters. I just call a spade a spade. Campbell will continue to cheat and it will tarnish any hopes he has (if he has any) of being a great coach or human being. Mark my words. Look what it did to Bellicheat and Joe Paterno. Paterno died of cancer days after it was revealed he was covering up rampant pedophilia. Paterno was one of the greatest coaches who ever lived. Now, he is seen as a pariah.

 

[Starstruck22]

I honestly think he's serious.

But I also think he's incredibly naive. If he doesn't think all sorts of stuff either on the edge of, or outright well outside, the rules doesn't go on every week in the NFL.

Who said I dont believe there is rampant corruption in the world. Me pointing it out makes me naive? Read my posts dude. I point out the corruption on a daily basis. Omg, the tortured logic here is too much to bear. I believe the nfl is corrupt and screwing parsons and the cowboys. Does that sound naive?