Dan Campbell Pulled a Bellichick

[nightrain]

I honestly think he's serious.

But I also think he's incredibly naive. If he doesn't think all sorts of stuff either on the edge of, or outright well outside, the rules doesn't go on every week in the NFL.

Just another troll and a child at that.

 

[Starstruck22]

Just another troll and a child at that.

No ad hominems and name calling. Against the rules. That is what is childish. When you dont have an argument, pound podium!

 

[Starstruck22]

You know you're on the edge of losing it when you call Dan Campbell (who looks like he could compete in MMA right now) "a slob" who tried to "disenfranchise" the Cowboys

DISENFRANCHISE?!?!

It's a football game. He tried to get cute to gain a competitive advantage and the refs made the right call. Nothing more, nothing less.

Good grief.

Have you seen his teeth?

 

[plasticman]

This is what a creep Campbell is. He purposefully had two linemen talking to ref while a third lineman races in to report eligibility to PURPOSEFULLY CONFUSE the Dallas defense. This was orchestrated by Campbell who knows the rules inside and out being a former receiver. This is 100% Bill Bellichick bs that he will do anything to win (including deflating footballs, stealing calls, and other confusing plays). It did fortunately backfire and it should have.

So what I want to know is, how many of you on here agree this guy is a creep that will try to bend the rules to win?

You are absolutely correct about the play, Campbell didn't think his team could beat the Cowboys in the field so he resorted to manipulating the administrative procedures in involved with reporting eligibility.

He tried to confuse the Cowboys and ended up confusing the refs.

It's one thing to produce a trick play on the field during the course of a play but to try and take advantage of a rule process does not measure which is the better team.

The Lions, their fans, and the Cowboys hating media can go fly a kite. The Lions got exactly what they deserved, a big fat "L".

 

[Starstruck22]

You are absolutely correct about the play, Campbell didn't think his team could beat the Cowboys in the field so he resorted to manipulating the administrative procedures in involved with reporting eligibility.

He tried to confuse the Cowboys and ended up confusing the refs.

It's one thing to produce a trick play on the field during the course of a play but to try and take advantage of a rule process does not measure which is the better team.

The Lions, their fans, and the Cowboys hating media can go fly a kite. The Lions got exactly what they deserved, a big fat "L".

Thank you my brother. It could not be more apparent. Campbell will be the next Paterno with bs like this. We are not fools. You and i get the working within the rules deception and deception by rule breaking. Two different things. Paterno, was a god in PA until he decided to transgress the law. He quickly died a terrible death and a pariah. How would not letting cowboys know who the eligible receiver is be consider fair under any moral system? That is the purpose and intent of the rule. Paterno thought he could circumnavigate obvious and insidious moral violations and paid with his life, his career and reputation. Possibly the greatest college coach who ever lived ended in a dumpster fire. Campbell tried to break the rules and has even got refs fired for this. This is unconscionable. There will be more from this guy. He is signaling his contempt for morality and rules.

 

[BoysForLife]

Just the facts mam. I dont quit life because there are cheaters. I just call a spade a spade. Campbell will continue to cheat and it will tarnish any hopes he has (if he has any) of being a great coach or human being. Mark my words. Look what it did to Bellicheat and Joe Paterno. Paterno died of cancer days after it was revealed he was covering up rampant pedophilia. Paterno was one of the greatest coaches who ever lived. Now, he is seen as a pariah.

So, in other words you're comparing the sexual abuse of minors with trying to confuse our defense on an illegal tackle eligible play?

I agree with your take on Paterno

I disagree that Campbell is a "slob" who tried to "disenfranchise" the Cowboys

I guess that's where we part ways

 

[BoysForLife]

Who said I dont believe there is rampant corruption in the world. Me pointing it out makes me naive? Read my posts dude. I point out the corruption on a daily basis. Omg, the tortured logic here is too much to bear. I believe the nfl is corrupt and screwing parsons and the cowboys. Does that sound naive?

Yes it sounds incredibly naive. I saw our o line get away with a lot of holds last night

Even a few on Hutchinson, one of the most dynamic young defensive players in the league

And they let it go. And reversed the potential game winning 2 points conversion in favor of the cowboys.

If the NFL has a known conspiracy against the cowboys they sure did a great job hiding it last night

 

[Starstruck22]

So, in other words you're comparing the sexual abuse of minors with trying to confuse our defense on an illegal tackle eligible play?

I agree with your take on Paterno

I disagree that Campbell is a "slob" who tried to "disenfranchise" the Cowboys

I guess that's where we part ways

And I am naive???? I am just saying once we start to decieve. You’ve heard the saying. I believe this was an unmitigated attempt by Campbell to screw dallas from knowing who the eligible receiver is. This is not fair. This is not right. This has no place in the nfl. and he got nfl officials fired when they were just doing their jobs. So Campbells decision to deceive has screwed officials who were just doing there jobs And I have no affinity for officials believe me.

 

[Asklesko]

It worked but for the refs, who wouldn't let it work.

 

[Starstruck22]

Yes it sounds incredibly naive. I saw our o line get away with a lot of holds last night

Even a few on Hutchinson, one of the most dynamic young defensive players in the league

And they let it go. And reversed the potential game winning 2 points conversion in favor of the cowboys.

If the NFL has a known conspiracy against the cowboys they sure did a great job hiding it last night

Enough of the ad hominems. Argue the point. When you Dont have an argument you call names.

 

[Starstruck22]

It worked but for the refs, who wouldn't let it work.

And they got fired from the playoffs. Because of Dan Campbell. His deleterious actions caused their termination from the playoffs.

 

[zack]

Twitter floating around somewhere that shows it was 70 at game.

 

[Starstruck22]

So, in other words you're comparing the sexual abuse of minors with trying to confuse our defense on an illegal tackle eligible play?

I agree with your take on Paterno

I disagree that Campbell is a "slob" who tried to "disenfranchise" the Cowboys

I guess that's where we part ways

Unethical behavior comes in all flavors. I made no moral equivalence, only that when you do wrong, it will come back to bite you.

 

[BoysForLife]

Enough of the ad hominems. Argue the point. When you Dont have an argument you call names.

WTH are you talking about?

I said your argument sounds naive

And then proceeded to offer several factual reasons why.

Putting you on ignore. You're clearly trolling. Happy New Year bub

 

[FanofJerry]

The plan was that if the refs actually caught it and threw the flag, they would argue that 68 did report. That is why 3 OL went to the ref. To create purposeful confusion for Dallas and the refs. They wanted the ref to 2nd guess himself after the fact and pick up the flag but he was not having it. Basically they outsmarted themselves when they probably could have just run a basic play and scored on a Dallas defense that was reeling. They got what they deserved by trying to confuse everyone and the rules.

Ok...this makes sense. Didnt think about it like that...shaming the refs into picking up the flag.

Not a fan of that style of gamesmanship.

 

[Starstruck22]

WTH are you talking about?

I said your argument sounds naive

And then proceeded to offer several factual reasons why.

Putting you on ignore. You're clearly trolling. Happy New Year bub

No you called me naive. Ad hominem. Please ignore. And you went on a tangent to the original intent of post.

 

[Starstruck22]

Ok...this makes sense. Didnt think about it like that...shaming the refs into picking up the flag.

Not a fan of that style of gamesmanship.

Whatever the convoluted intent was, we know it was clearly unethical. We will see more of this rule breaking from Campbell down the road. Bank on it. They said it was a clearly orchestrated plan a week in advance. Detroit did not screw it up. It was all intentional. Why did 2 lineman speak to ref at the same time as 70 was running on the field. This was all orchestrated to cheat dallas. No other explanation possible. And it got an officiating crew fired for doing the right thing. All on Campbells absent conscience.

 

[Vtwin]

My goodness. All the pearl clutching...

There was no cheating. There was an attempt to confuse the defense but not one rule was broken. The defense should also be able to determine who is eligible by the alignment.

The entire game of football is rooted in causing confusion and misdirection. This was nothing more than another example of that.

I wonder what would have happened if the ref didn't botch it up and identified the correct player as eligible.

Was the Landry Shift cheating? A direct attempt at hiding motion and shifts in the backfield from the defense.

 

[Bigdog]

The thing is Campbell said in his press conference 2 linemen said they were eligible and only 1 can do it. So yeah he knew what he was doing and got caught. People are also reporting that it should not even have come to this since the refs called the wrong player on the tripping call on Hendershot. It was the Lions player Hutchinson who tried to trip Pollard.

 

[Starstruck22]

My goodness. All the pearl clutching...

There was no cheating. There was an attempt to confuse the defense but not one rule was broken. The defense should also be able to determine who is eligible by the alignment.

The entire game of football is rooted in causing confusion and misdirection. This was nothing more than another example of that.

I wonder what would have happened if the ref didn't botch it up and identified the correct player as eligible.

Was the Landry Shift cheating? A direct attempt at hiding motion and shifts in the backfield from the defense.

there are none so blind, than those that REFUSE TO SEE. It was a premeditated, planned, orchestrated scheme to prevent dallas from knowing who the eligible receiver is or to confuse the refs later. No other explanation. Brilliant but totally and absolutely unethical. If detroit could have had decker go in announce he was the eligible and he caught the ball. All ethical all within the rules. Detroit tried to keep dallas or the refs from knowing by obfuscation. This had nothing to do with mis direction or motion or whatever that does not break the spirit of the law. The rule is to let dallas know who is eligible. Detroit did not want that.