Dan Orlovsky’s description of Kellen Moore’s potential offense

[Carl23]

Sounds like Chan Gailey. I just hope that Moore remembers that our offense is built around Zeke. Get too pass happy and we'll end up right around .500

 

[cowboyec]

WIN

 

[Fletch]

Yeah yeah..

Last summer it was going to be all these new route combinations and yady yada.


This story ends with us being in 2 TE sets and running it between the tackles over and over again.

The first time Kellen tries something out of the box and it fails Garrett will rage and that is the last we'll see of it.

Jerry already has told Kellen to get it done. The days of Linehan lineage are over.

It’s do or die. You will see change.

 

[cowboyblue22]

they write this crap every year and how players are going to explode and how the younger guys are so fast and are really good in ots's then after training camp u never hear much from them the rest of the year and the offense pretty much looks like the stuff that garrett and linehan used so we will see when September comes until then its all just fluff stories and white noise

 

[Qcard]

Dan Orlovsky’s description of Kellen Moore’s potential offense sounds like the exact opposite of Scott Linehan’s offense

this is the natural progression of his dancing lifestyle

 

[visionary]

Do we like Moore more than Richard, or Richard more than Moore right now? Richard, right?

And do we like Moore more than we hated Linehan yet? More than we hate Garrett? I know we like Richard just a little bit more than we hate Marinelli. That one is pretty clear. I think I have a hard time with the Moore one because just last season we hated him almost as much as we hated Linehan and, I think, slightly more than we hated Garrett, and definitely more than we hated Marinelli (we didn't really start hating Marinelli until we decided how much we loved Richard after he threw down with an opposing player in pre-game warmups, right?). So I have a hard time keeping them straight.

The good news is it's awesome to see how much better Kellen Moore got in just one season. If he keeps up on this pace, look out. Can you imagine what a two-headed monster a Richard-Moore HC would be by next season? It'd be a conjoined nightmare for anybody foolish enough to get on the field with us. We could just fire Garrett and Jerry and Stephen and let Will McClay find players for Richard-Moore and just kick *** for about a decade. That would be awesome.

We KNOW Garrett is trash
The rest is just fluff

 

[visionary]

Complicated offense?
Pre snap motion?

Can't wait until I see WRs running around confused where they have to line up and Dak telling us they 'have to get on the same page'

 

[Plumfool]

This is not exactly accurate. With Garrett the Cowboys started as a pass heavy team, then in 2014 made a serious commitment to the running game. Early with Garrett there were no empty backfields, no jet sweeps, no RB's splitting out wide and the QB was not used as a runner, and now those things are normal parts of the game plan. I'm sure there are some less obvious things that have changed as well.

Its the same. “Beat the man in front of you”. Doesn’t scheme. Doesn’t adjust. Same

 

[Plumfool]

 

[OmerV]

Its the same. “Beat the man in front of you”. Doesn’t scheme. Doesn’t adjust. Same

Obviously there is scheme, otherwise nobody would know where to line up or what play to run, and they would never score. The fact Garrett may not do it as well as someone else doesn't change the fact that, notwithstanding your comment, he has accepted changes with the offense over the years.

 

[Hadenough]

Im fine with failing this year.

It's a win win if it gets rid of Garrett.

A mediocre season that gets Garrett a new contract is the worst thing that can happen.

We need to either be a title contender that advances deep in the playoffs or just let the wheels fall off and hire a new coach and hopefully get a top 10 draft pick.

That's a problem! I was thinking that same thing last year. A deep playoff run or Garrett needs to go. I could see this team being 9-7 or 10-6 and one playoff win then a loss. Garrett gets a new 5 year contract because Jerry thinks they are getting close.

 

[Plumfool]

Obviously there is scheme, otherwise nobody would know where to line up or what play to run, and they would never score. The fact that he doesn't do it as well as someone else doesn't change the fact that notwithstanding your comment, he has accepted changes with the offense over the years.

Let me clarify. Does not scheme to allow the offense to operate to its fullest potential. As I said earlier the basic theory is “beat the man in front of you”

 

[Verdict]

Do we like Moore more than Richard, or Richard more than Moore right now? Richard, right?

And do we like Moore more than we hated Linehan yet? More than we hate Garrett? I know we like Richard just a little bit more than we hate Marinelli. That one is pretty clear. I think I have a hard time with the Moore one because just last season we hated him almost as much as we hated Linehan and, I think, slightly more than we hated Garrett, and definitely more than we hated Marinelli (we didn't really start hating Marinelli until we decided how much we loved Richard after he threw down with an opposing player in pre-game warmups, right?). So I have a hard time keeping them straight.

The good news is it's awesome to see how much better Kellen Moore got in just one season. If he keeps up on this pace, look out. Can you imagine what a two-headed monster a Richard-Moore HC would be by next season? It'd be a conjoined nightmare for anybody foolish enough to get on the field with us. We could just fire Garrett and Jerry and Stephen and let Will McClay find players for Richard-Moore and just kick *** for about a decade. That would be awesome.

Awesome. That made my head hurt!

 

[OmerV]

Let me clarify. Does not scheme to allow the offense to operate to its fullest potential. As I said earlier the basic theory is “beat the man in front of you”

I don't disagree that Garrett isn't the best at what he does, and that wasn't what I was suggesting. I was just responding to the idea that he has never been willing to make any changes.

 

[Plumfool]

I don't disagree that Garrett isn't the best at what he does, and that wasn't what I was suggesting. I was just responding to the idea that he has never been willing to make any changes.

And my statement remains. He has never shown the propensity to change. Yes at one time the team was a pass heavy offense. But the philosophy was the same as it was last year. That’s all I means

 

[OmerV]

And my statement remains. He has never shown the propensity to change. Yes at one time the team was a pass heavy offense. But the philosophy was the same as it was last year. That’s all I means

That makes no sense when he clearly has changed from a pass heavy offense to a run heavy offense, and the offense clearly has wrinkles now that it has not always had. You can't reasonably argue that the changes that clearly have happened don't exist simply because he hasn't changed everything you would like him to change.

 

[Roadtrip635]

If I ever see 4 receivers all run curl/comeback routes on a 3rd and long next season, I will beat Kellen with a dead catfish.

 

[Valkyr]

I think it'll be more like Bill Walsh married Don Coryell who cheated with Sean McVay who was dating Mike Martz who had a fling with Mike Holmgren.

 

[Plumfool]

That makes no sense when he clearly has changed from a pass heavy offense to a run heavy offense, and the offense clearly has wrinkles now that it has not always had. You can't reasonably argue that the changes that clearly have happened don't exist simply because he hasn't changed everything you would like him to change.

Has nothing to do with what I want. The vast majority of the pass plays called in 2018 are the same pass calls from years ago. Just the number of pass plays per game has changed. A scheme is a set of strategies involving specific formations and plays. That’s what has not changed. We can disagree and the earth will still turn.

 

[Diehardblues]

My sense is leaning towards a Moore disaster without Elliott.