Dan Quinn and the 5 safety no LBer concept is killing us

[Blast From The Past]

Their game plan was to run the hell out of the ball until we stop it. Allen only attempted 2 passes on the first drive ( 15 for the game ). In other words, they had zero respect for our ability to stop their running game. This reminded me of the Rams playoff game a few years ago.


BTW......remember a couple of years ago when Wilson and Kearse played like All-Pros?

Run defense has been our downfall for years and years. This team is built on speed to get to the qb without much regards to the running game. Never been addressed on a whole sale scale but only adding Hankins and drafting Mazi. Our linebackers need to be real linebackers not hybrids and we need beefier athletic ones along with defensive tackles who can shed blockers and get to the ball carrier. We can never win it all with this flawed defense in my opinion. Problem is it's a passing league so the balance between the two has to be struck. That's the 50 million dollar question, how do you approach that sweet spot so you can defend against both effectively when building your defense. All I know really is what I saw yesterday and it is rotten and the offense was as well. Anomaly? I hope it was and this team was flat all day long on both sides of the ball and will surprise Miami with a different team than what showed up in Buffalo. As a fan I can hope and wish. This team has to fix this run d in this upcoming off season or we will never advance as it will be wash, rinse and repeat for us ladies and gents.

 

[ak47kaehu]

Micah may be an absolute terror rushing the passer....but he gets wash at the LOS on almost every run play. They need rush him on passing downs....

 

[frickster]

He’s a genius. Such a genius no one can see what he’s doing.

I agree 100%. Nobody seems to understand there is a problem.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I think it is more of an issue of Mazi and Gallimore not playing well. They say Mazi is not thinking and just playing but he is slow off the snap and having serious awareness issues. Gallimore still cannot get off blocks to save his life.

 

[jblaze2004]

I am praying some other team sign DQ as a head coach next season. I want a physical defense. Not this soft defense we field. It crazy Dan Quinn did nothing to stop the run yesterday. NOTHING.

 

[Toro9]

It makes sense with this passing league but when they decide to run you need to change your gameplan. He was up in the Super Bowl then got blasted. Quinn is smart but he doesn't seem to know how to make adjustments.

 

[Frosty]

I am praying some other team sign DQ as a head coach next season. I want a physical defense. Not this soft defense we field. It crazy Dan Quinn did nothing to stop the run yesterday. NOTHING.

 

[KMY_Amber]

The Bills out schemed us. The Bills usually play hero ball with Allen. Give them credit.

The Bills Offense didn't out-scheme the Cowboys, they just ran the ball down the Cowboys throat...and Quinn's adjustments came wayyy too late into the game, because by that time, the defense was exhausted, beaten and borderline just gave up.

If the scheme is simply to "run the ball against the Cowboys, they can't stop it", then the Cowboys are toast until they can stop the run.

For the Cowboys offense, the Bills defense did indeed outplay and out-scheme the Cowboys. And with this kind of Dallas defense that needs turnovers OR the offense to get a lead to have any consistent success, then the pressure will always be on Dak on the offense to score early and consistently to get a lead for the defense, for the team to have any success, especially on the road. Basically what it boils down to is that...we don't believe the defense as constructed today to have success unless they can rush the passer and create havoc by getting after the QB. But in a close game when it's hard to create a lot of 3rd and longs because the opposing offense is committed to the run, what then?

I need to see more from Quinn, with scheming and adjustments, right from Play 1. They can't just sit back and play bend-but-don't-break early and let the team run all over the Cowboys Dee. That's bad coaching.

And the offense needs way more urgency and effectiveness on the road. The first drive needs to result in points, so the 1st drive is not the time to "try a deep shot", wasting a precious down, unless the receiver is WIDE open.

And of course, they still need to minimize the penalties...all of those first-half penalties were critical, on both the offense AND defense. On the road, they have to be crisper, from the first snap.

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

Guys, we'd be 0-14 if it were this simple. We entered into the weekend as a top 5 defense. Every NFL team has a large O-line compared to our front. There is nuance, game flo, scoreboard, injury, penalties, bad calls, non calls, non challenges, weather. We may be built for a specific style of play but we're damn good at it and yesterday is not indicative of who this team is. We have some weaknesses and they were exposed but buffalo isn't 21 points better than us on a neutral field with good conditions.

 

[Chasing6]

It is difficult to have a scheme that can not stop every NFL team. You can't be great at everything. If you are exceptional in one area, you usually lack in another area. Well balanced teams that can adjust their game plan accordingly week to week tend to have the most success in the playoffs.

 

[Havic]

Gonna have to be like dick vermeil and the chiefs which is just outscore everyone and force them to pass

 

[JeffInDC]

• It's a Nickel defense with 3 Safeties.
• Bell is good but undersized and not built for a running onslaught.
• Micah is just not good in run defense.
• Hankins was out, LVE was out.
• The Bills had our # from the get go. They saw what Arizona did to us.

It’s even simpler than that. What I see is a defense that was created to operate at peak efficiency ONLY WHEN THEY HAVE A LEAD. It’s like Quinn created this version of a defense with the blown 28-3 SB lead in his head. Well, what happens to that scheme when they’re trailing? I see many blaming the DL (in particular the DT’s). But, isn’t this supposed to be a gap-controlling D? THAT is the major issue I’m seeing. Every time Cook made it through the DL, there was NO ONE in said gap(s) there to make the play…it’s as if the scheme is requiring the DL SPECIFICALLY to make the tackles vs. the LB’s (who are traditionally the main tacklers) and safety group. There seems to be no cohesiveness between the players unless it’s an all out pass rush. Smart teams are making them pay…