CFZ Dan Quinn- like Wade Phillips?

[CouchCoach]

The records speak for themselves, CC. If it's all about money, then Dan Quinn should go for it. Good luck! But his record as a head coach is not good. He is better and more productive concentrating on solely being a D-Coordinator.

So have a high number of other coordinators but that doesn't stop them from going for the corner office.

Lovie Smith, Norv Turner, Wade Phillips and Marvin Lewis were all successful coordinators but not so as HC's. Why shouldn't Quinn try again? Because you don't want to lose him?

After last year's playoff game and some of what I've seen of this defense this year, I'll wait to anoint him as a DC.

 

[CouchCoach]

I agree, how many times have we witnessed this scenario Head coaches in over their heads, that were successful as coordinators.

However, they all got paid for failing. We are not privy to the game they're playing.

The NFL coaching carousel is a shell game played by the owners. Team sucks, need to placate the fans and sponsors, change the HC and/or GM. How many times have some of them done this with little improvement? It is the illusion of progress and the coaches are along for the ride and the payday.

 

[Diehardblues]

It doesn’t really matter. He’s going to get another opportunity somewhere else to HC . He did a solid job at Atlanta taking them to a SB. Which I view more as the greatest comeback ever than a collapse .

 

[Diehardblues]

However, they all got paid for failing. We are not privy to the game they're playing.

The NFL coaching carousel is a shell game played by the owners. Team sucks, need to placate the fans and sponsors, change the HC and/or GM. How many times have some of them done this with little improvement? It is the illusion of progress and the coaches are along for the ride and the payday.

Yea, most coaches dream is to be the HC. Again and again. The opportunity and money is too much to pass up for most.

 

[Diehardblues]

So have a high number of other coordinators but that doesn't stop them from going for the corner office.

Lovie Smith, Norv Turner, Wade Phillips and Marvin Lewis were all successful coordinators but not so as HC's. Why shouldn't Quinn try again? Because you don't want to lose him?

After last year's playoff game and some of what I've seen of this defense this year, I'll wait to anoint him as a DC.

I’m not sure we couldn’t argue Lewis, Phillips and Smith had some level of success. Taking teams to playoffs isn’t bad . Many never make it.

Amazing how this era of fans only recognize success with the Gold Medal. Damn shame .

 

[IceStar-D7]

I thought Wade was on hell of a DC. I'd say at least tied if not better then Q. It's darn close. But as you said. Both never made great or even good coaches. Though Q came close minus a 4th quarter SB collapse.

 

[Diehardblues]

The great Dan Quinn’s defense is closing in on being middle of the league.

Regardless it’s much improved since he took over . We’ve had multiple injuries which could help explain a downturn later in season.

 

[Diehardblues]

I thought Wade was on hell of a DC. I'd say at least tied if not better then Q. It's darn close.

I’d take that Seattle defense or Denver’s defense . Both were great. But it’s usually about the talent .

 

[Whyjerry]

Regardless it’s much improved since he took over . We’ve had multiple injuries which could help explain a downturn later in season.

He has failed to adapt. League has figured them out. It’s happened before with Quinn. What injuries are we talking about? LVE? The CBs? The problem is up front. That is on Quinn.

 

[Diehardblues]

He has failed to adapt. League has figured them out. It’s happened before with Quinn. What injuries are we talking about? LVE? The CBs? The problem is up front. That is on Quinn.

It’s always more than one contributing factor.

 

[john van brocklin]

Been a lot of talk lately about Dan Quinn possibly being picked off the Cowboys staff to take a HC job again with perhaps Denver or another head coaching position that will be open this off season.

Quinn has obviously done a great job turning the Cowboys defense around. But I have been thinking lately about the comparison between Quinn and another excellent defensive coordinator who was a better DC than HC- Wade Phillips.

Wade Phillips was consistently an excellent defensive mind. As a DC, his defenses were always among the leagues best. As a head coach on the other hand, Phillips was ok- he was 82-64 in regular season as a HC. But he was 1-5 in the playoffs. Phillips won a SB ring as a DC in Denver in 2015. But he never saw that much success as a HC.

Dan Quinn was ok in Atl as a HC. 43-42 in the regular season, and 3-2 in the playoffs. But he had that collapse in the SB vs the pats and his Atl teams never recovered. Like Phillips, Quinn has a SB ring as a DC when he was in Seattle.

So is Dan Quinn a newer version of Wade Phillips? An excellent DC who isn’t as good as a HC? Or is he different?

I think their are remarkable similarities

 

[quickccc]

Considering the investment in Russ Wilson, I can't see the Broncos hiring a defensive minded HC.

They have the worst scoring offense in the league I believe.

Irony since its assumed that they hired offensive asst. Nathan Hackett to be a scoring success for Russell Wilson.

Could they (Broncos) have bypassed a much better suited HC, (Quinn?) for the sake of one tunneling the offense for Russell ?
They couldn't trust that defensive minded HC ala Dan Quinn, could hire a very suitable OC, as he did when he hired Kyle Shanahan to be his OC at ATL ?

Imagine if the Bills bypassed McDermont for a Hackett type HC just because it was important that HC be an offensive guy .