DaRon Bland vs. Jourdan Lewis

[Proof]

When you draft a Noah Brown in the 7th, and a D. Wilson and Brown in the 6th, and a Bland and Clark in the 5th, it more than offsets a 2nd round bust.

four to five years later lol.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I don't under why we want to bench CB's when are pass defense has been so good.

Bland has been encouraging since preseason, but the players above haven't earned a seat on the bench. Im looking at Bland as more of a potential 2023 contributor when Browns contract is up

 

[CowboyRoy]

Jourdan Lewis was an All-American corner at Michigan, and was hands down a better college CB than DaRin Bland. Lewis has better natural instincts than many NFL Defensive backs. But what Lewis has always lacked is NFL speed. That is why he’s just not a viable NFL corner for outside receivers. It is also why a 6th round pick with less talent, but 4.35 speed has remained ahead of him on the Cowboys depth chart. Yes, I am talking about Anthony Brown.

On the other hand, Bland has better NFL size and speed than Lewis, and may be more naturally skilled than Brown. Bland has a better chance to be an impactful NFL corner than both Lewis and Brown in the long-term.

If the Kelvin Joseph can ever start living up to his draft status, the Cowboys are pretty deep at cornerback. By the end of this season, Jourdan Lewis, who is a good nickel cornerback, might just be the 5th best CB the Cowboys have. That’s a good problem to have.

You can say whatever you want. Its completely obvious that Bland is better, even now. Lewis is your typical JAG. Nothing special about him at all. I would be playing Bland from here on out. I might even play Bland over Brown next year if he continues to impress.

 

[CowboyRoy]

So far Joseph appears to have been WAY over drafted.

Another 2nd round pathetic gamble by Jerry that backfires.

 

[G2]

Based on what?

The fact he's playing behind some ballers?

Give him some time.

Joseph has all of the physical gifts, I'm just not sure he's got the football IQ to be high level.

 

[Jumbo075]

I bashed that pick from day 1. I watch a ton of SEC football and that kid was on nobody's radar until he ran fast in the pre-draft measurable fests. Sure, he's got talent but he never played up to it, and his passion is music not football. He should have been set adrift this past off-season, but this FO doesn't like to admit mistakes so quick.

As if 31 other teams would give up on their 2nd round pick after one year. Get serious!

 

[Mr_437]

Jourdan Lewis was an All-American corner at Michigan, and was hands down a better college CB than DaRin Bland. Lewis has better natural instincts than many NFL Defensive backs. But what Lewis has always lacked is NFL speed. That is why he’s just not a viable NFL corner for outside receivers. It is also why a 6th round pick with less talent, but 4.35 speed has remained ahead of him on the Cowboys depth chart. Yes, I am talking about Anthony Brown.

On the other hand, Bland has better NFL size and speed than Lewis, and may be more naturally skilled than Brown. Bland has a better chance to be an impactful NFL corner than both Lewis and Brown in the long-term.

If the Kelvin Joseph can ever start living up to his draft status, the Cowboys are pretty deep at cornerback. By the end of this season, Jourdan Lewis, who is a good nickel cornerback, might just be the 5th best CB the Cowboys have. That’s a good problem to have.

To say AB has less talent than Lewis is highly questionable...you can't base everything on draft status. AB is a great athlete and had very good college tape too.

Bland had a good game, and he'll get better. The beauty of having veterans is that young players can watch them and increase their learning curve through observation...Bland is a good student, but there's no reason to push Lewis to the side, imo.

I like all the young CBs (even Wright) and want to see those guys crush it after the vets have timed out...it's only a year or two wait.

 

[rambo2]

For a 2nd rounder we need more than a gunner. Not saying he's a bad gunner but as a 2nd rounder he needs to give us more. Thankfully Bland is stepping up his production to ease the sting of wasting a 2nd rounder on KJ.

This team is a strong deep team no matter what their 2nd round pick does.

 

[Zman5]

Bland has shown what the draft experts said about him predraft. He is at his best playing in zone facing the QB. Where he struggles is playing man while he has his back to the QB. Most experts said he could be a good fit as a zone CB or even as a FS.

 

[Pass2Run]

I love how posters follow narratives. Joseph, has been doing fine on ST and spot duty as a DB.

Right.

You can only have so many guys. And Anthony Brown has been playing just fine.

He's playing behind one of the better corners in the league, so what would you expect?

It's his 2nd year right now.

 

[FanofJerry]

Bland has shown what the draft experts said about him predraft. He is at his best playing in zone facing the QB. Where he struggles is playing man while he has his back to the QB. Most experts said he could be a good fit as a zone CB or even as a FS.

Tom Brady 6th round pick though...

 

[Risen Star]

Jourdan Lewis was an All-American corner at Michigan, and was hands down a better college CB than DaRin Bland. Lewis has better natural instincts than many NFL Defensive backs. But what Lewis has always lacked is NFL speed. That is why he’s just not a viable NFL corner for outside receivers. It is also why a 6th round pick with less talent, but 4.35 speed has remained ahead of him on the Cowboys depth chart. Yes, I am talking about Anthony Brown.

On the other hand, Bland has better NFL size and speed than Lewis, and may be more naturally skilled than Brown. Bland has a better chance to be an impactful NFL corner than both Lewis and Brown in the long-term.

If the Kelvin Joseph can ever start living up to his draft status, the Cowboys are pretty deep at cornerback. By the end of this season, Jourdan Lewis, who is a good nickel cornerback, might just be the 5th best CB the Cowboys have. That’s a good problem to have.

I don't like this impression you're leaving that we have enough cornerbacks.

 

[Risen Star]

Right.

You can only have so many guys. And Anthony Brown has been playing just fine.

He's playing behind one of the better corners in the league, so what would you expect?

It's his 2nd year right now.

I'd expect a 2nd round pick to have a significant role in the defense by his 2nd year.

 

[plymkr]

This team is a strong deep team no matter what their 2nd round pick does.

I respectfully disagree. I don't feel this team is strong and deep enough to use a 2nd round pick on a special team specialist. No way. I'd much rather have another offensive or defensive lineman than a special team gunner. Purely from a football perspective KJ has been a bust so far.

 

[atlantacowboy]

As if 31 other teams would give up on their 2nd round pick after one year. Get serious!

Well, he was involved in a drive by shooting in the off season. So yeah, most teams cut the player. So, there's that........... a second round pick should starting by year 2 at the latest.

He was a bad draft pick. He's shown nothing and is getting beat out for playing time by a rookie 5th rounder. The ONLY reason he made the team this year is the fact that he was a second round pick and the team tends to hold onto underperforming premium draft picks rather than admit mistakes. ....... Trysten Hill, Connor Williams, Jaylon Smith, and "captain suspension" himself Randy Gregory.

 

[Runwildboys]

Jourdan Lewis was an All-American corner at Michigan, and was hands down a better college CB than DaRin Bland. Lewis has better natural instincts than many NFL Defensive backs. But what Lewis has always lacked is NFL speed. That is why he’s just not a viable NFL corner for outside receivers. It is also why a 6th round pick with less talent, but 4.35 speed has remained ahead of him on the Cowboys depth chart. Yes, I am talking about Anthony Brown.

On the other hand, Bland has better NFL size and speed than Lewis, and may be more naturally skilled than Brown. Bland has a better chance to be an impactful NFL corner than both Lewis and Brown in the long-term.

If the Kelvin Joseph can ever start living up to his draft status, the Cowboys are pretty deep at cornerback. By the end of this season, Jourdan Lewis, who is a good nickel cornerback, might just be the 5th best CB the Cowboys have. That’s a good problem to have.

It's a very unusual problem for this team too.

 

[Jumbo075]

Well, he was involved in a drive by shooting in the off season. So yeah, most teams cut the player. So, there's that........... a second round pick should starting by year 2 at the latest.

He was a bad draft pick. He's shown nothing and is getting beat out for playing time by a rookie 5th rounder. The ONLY reason he made the team this year is the fact that he was a second round pick and the team tends to hold onto underperforming premium draft picks rather than admit mistakes. ....... Trysten Hill, Connor Williams, Jaylon Smith, and "captain suspension" himself Randy Gregory.

You may be right that he turns out to be a bust. I never said he wouldn't. I said "If" he starts living up to his draft status, the Cowboys might have something. I didn't say he would.

I agree that so far he's been disappointing. But there is not a single team in the NFL that gives up on a 2nd round pick after just one season. Not a single team. KJ needs to somehow show his worth to the team, because they could give up on him next year if he doesn't start showing up. I also wonder where Nahshon Wright is in the big picture.

Both Anthony Brown and Jourdan Lewis are signed through 2022. The Cowboys have to be hoping that the foursome of Diggs, Bland, Joseph and Wright develop so they can replace Brown and Lewis, who will be in their 8th and 7th seasons in 2023 respectively.

Brown and Lewis are both limited - Brown by his poor instincts, and Lewis by his below average size and speed. My most vivid visual impression of Lewis was watching a receiver run away from him, and then Chidobe Awuzie come from about 10 yards behind Lewis, sprint past Lewis, and tackle the ball carrier about 5 yards ahead of Lewis. Lewis may be quick, which helps him cover quick, but slow receivers like Cole Beasley.But a CB needs speed, not just quickness.

And that is why Brown, even with much slower reaction times than Lewis, still sits over Lewis on the depth chart. Brown can RECOVER from his mistakes because of his speed. Lewis has to play perfectly, and even then NFL receivers can just run away from him in the open field. To his own credit, Lewis does play near the top of his capability, which is good enough (most of the time) to play in the slot. That's why the Cowboys gave him a 2nd contract paying him $4.5M per season.

Brown, who signed his contract extension the same year as Lewis, at $5.367M per season makes $866,667 more per season than the more talented, but slower Lewis. Ever wonder why that is true?

The Cowboys are going to need that almost $10M per season to pay Diggs and Parsons. They need the younger corners to play well. So far, of the trio of rookie Bland, and 2nd year players Joseph and Wright, only Bland has been productive in a real NFL game. The other two need to step up.

 

[atlantacowboy]

You may be right that he turns out to be a bust. I never said he wouldn't. I said "If" he starts living up to his draft status, the Cowboys might have something. I didn't say he would.

I agree that so far he's been disappointing. But there is not a single team in the NFL that gives up on a 2nd round pick after just one season. Not a single team. KJ needs to somehow show his worth to the team, because they could give up on him next year if he doesn't start showing up. I also wonder where Nahshon Wright is in the big picture.

Both Anthony Brown and Jourdan Lewis are signed through 2022. The Cowboys have to be hoping that the foursome of Diggs, Bland, Joseph and Wright develop so they can replace Brown and Lewis, who will be in their 8th and 7th seasons in 2023 respectively.

Brown and Lewis are both limited - Brown by his poor instincts, and Lewis by his below average size and speed. My most vivid visual impression of Lewis was watching a receiver run away from him, and then Chidobe Awuzie come from about 10 yards behind Lewis, sprint past Lewis, and tackle the ball carrier about 5 yards ahead of Lewis. Lewis may be quick, which helps him cover quick, but slow receivers like Cole Beasley.

But a CB needs speed, not just quickness. And that is why Brown, even with much slower reaction times than Lewis, still sits over Lewis on the depth chart. Brown can RECOVER from his mistakes because of his speed. Lewis has to play perfectly, and even then NFL receivers can just run away from him in the open field. To his own credit, Lewis does play near the top of his capability, which is good enough (most of the time) to play in the slot. That's why the Cowboys gave him a 2nd contract paying him $4.5M per season. Brown, who signed his contract extension the same year as Lewis, at $5.367M per season makes $866,667 more per season than the more talented, but slower Lewis. Ever wonder why that is true?

The Cowboys are going to need that almost $10M per season to pay Diggs and Parsons. They need the younger corners to play well. So far, of the trio of rookie Bland, and 2nd year players Joseph and Wright, only Bland has been productive in a real NFL game. The other two need to step up.

Well, most second round picks aren't involved in drive by shootings either. But football wise, this was a measurables pick. Its not like the kid dominated the SEC. He has never lived up to the potential of his athletic ability b/c he is not truly committed to football. I don't see that changing and there is nothing to indicate its going to as guys fly by him on the depth chart.

 

[Aven8]

So far Joseph appears to have been WAY over drafted.

Joseph however might be our best ST player already

 

[G2]

I'd expect a 2nd round pick to have a significant role in the defense by his 2nd year.

I agree. It's nice they hand out water, but we can get that production in the later rounds.