Darren McFadden (All22) Rushing Review

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I will break down all of Darren McFadden's runs here in the same way I broke down Randle's. I will try to include pics to make a better argument, whether I am right or wrong in my previous assessments of DMac.

Let me also preface by saying, I would love to see McFadden become the guy. His explosion and speed is exciting for me too. If he earns the spot, I will root for him.

Here we go:

2nd Quarter

10:53 McFadden off LT for 8 yards: There is a gaping hole and McFadden is quickly to the second level.

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His speed and explosion allow him to the second level before the defense can react. He isn't even touched until he hits the 45.
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This is the same play Randle popped off his big gains. This was our best designed running play in the game. McFadden flashes here so well, it's easy to understand excitement.

10:07 McFadden off LG for 3 yards: There is a gaping hole pre-snap. This looks like it was actually an audible by Romo when he saw the hole over the LG.

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Unfortunately, for whatever reason, McFadden hesitates for a step or two which enables the linebacker to get to the hole before him. This should have been a hitter, but McFadden's hesitation slowed it down.

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8:34 McFadden off RT for 3 yards: There is another gaping hole for McFadden to the right side. Again, this should be a big hitter.

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Instead, McFadden for some reason pauses and take a few stutter steps, giving the Giants time to converge and close the hole.

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7:17 McFadden of RG for 3 yards: This is the same play the Cowboys ran the first snap of the game. McFadden makes a decisive cut this time and, although the backside defender is there, he is able to pick up 3 yards. This is a good, hard and decisive run. This is the dirty work. This is what he needs to do more of.

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3rd Quarter

4:53 McFadden off LT pushed out of bounds after 1 yard gain: He does so many things wrong on this run I don't know where to start.

First hole he passes up is a gaping cutback that would have netted atleast 3-4 yards, or hit the burners to the outside, but instead he pauses and stutter steps again

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The same moment from another angle shows how indecisive he was. Anything was better than stuttering. Cut and go, or hit the outside with speed.

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He finally commits to going outside. Once he does, he has another opportunity to either turn on the jets or cut back, he hesitates again...

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At this point, Beasley has been blocking for several second and loses his man. McFadden doesn't lower his shoulder and try to run through the smaller DB, he's pushed out of bounds... This is the run where he lost me.

4th Quarter

9:05 McFadden up the middle for -2 yards: He has no shot here.
Whitehead is beat to the insdie by Collins and pops McFadden in the backfield. As X and I have pointed out in several other threads, the blocking at the next level as well as by the TE/WRs in the game was horrendous. If Whitehead can just chip Colling, McFadden may go the distance.

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My analysis:
As I have said in a plethora of threads now, McFadden shows liveliness. He is fluid, quick and fast. He has prototypical size and looks as though he could/should be able to break tackles. The unfortunate truth is, just like in Oakland, he doesn't have the patience, confidence or vision needed to take full advantage of his gifts. The holes he missed were gaping and he literally either ran away from them, or waited for them to close.

I want him to show up on the field. I want to see that home run ability in a feature back. The unfortunate truth is, McFadden doesn't have the most important tools (as Emmitt showed us) to be a feature back: The vision, the confidence and the patience. If you are mad that Randle is leaving yards on the field, McFadden should be maddening for you. Will he hit a big shot here and there? Yes. But he is going to strike out far more often. That's why he's a change of pace guy. That's why I prefer Randle.

Now, a caveat to all of this is, he missed some training camp and is on a new team. Could he gain the confidence and understand the scheme better? Certainly! Could that lead to better decision making and less busted runs? Absolutely. Does history show that will be the case? No.
 

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DMC had 7 carries in the preseason and 6 carries in the opener. Drawing conclusions at this point is..... pointless.

It's a review of his performance. What else do we have to go by? I am not counting the guy out by any means. Thanks for your worthwhile input though.

Just so I know, when are we allowed to, on a message board, talk about players and plays?

Did you even read my first post?
 

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The play where Collins blasted DMC showed why the Giants drafted him. And Witten's first TD showed his weakness. He looked lost on that play.
 

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Just so I know, when are we allowed to, on a message board, talk about players and plays?

Just a bit touchy on the subject of Randle, are we?

The review is good work, I appreciate it and we all do. My comment was on the conclusions you draw at the end. Its a continuation of the multiple posts you have made to build up Randle and tear down DMC. Even in complementing DMC's ability you do it purely as a way to say Randle is better.
 

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The play where Collins blasted DMC showed why the Giants drafted him. And Witten's first TD showed his weakness. He looked lost on that play.

Collins was a road grader in the rushing game. I though he performed better in that aspect and Leary. A lot of that had to do with the calls though, he wasn't asked to get to the second level on run plays. That's where he'll need work, so that was probably smart.
 

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Those two second quarter plays, where he had those gaping holes, I don't understand the hesitation as you pointed out. Totally lost me.. Those could have been huge and he was facing that direction either way, meaning he didn't really have to find the hole. Maybe it's just the 'game-day' speed getting use to once again...
 

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I am really regretting my Joseph Randle for Dez Bryant trade in fantasy. Randle is probably gonna put up big numbers this year.
 

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If you are mad that Randle is leaving yards on the field, McFadden should be maddening for you. Will he hit a big shot here and there? Yes. But he is going to strike out far more often.

BTW, this conclusion above (after 13 carries as a Cowboy) is why I call this pointless.
 

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Just a bit touchy on the subject of Randle, are we?

The review is good work, I appreciate it and we all do. My comment was on the conclusions you draw at the end. Its a continuation of the multiple posts you have made to build up Randle and tear down DMC. Even in complementing DMC's ability you do it purely as a way to say Randle is better.

What does this thread even have to do with Randle? I didn't mention Randle once. I have said in every Randle thread that he needed to be better as well. I also said numerous times, I didn't think we had a feature back on the roster. Essentially, Randle is the lesser of all evils. If you're drawing parallels and looking for an agenda, you may need a mirror.

We can all hope McFadden isn't the guy he was in Oakland. I have just as much hope about that as anyone. I am just being realistic. Yes, it is a tiny sample size but, at this point it's the only sample we have. If I am going to draw conclusions, which is pretty much what a message board is for, then that all I have to go on.
 

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What does this thread even have to do with Randle? I didn't mention Randle once.

Reallyl? What was this then?

That's why he's a change of pace guy. That's why I prefer Randle.

The vast majority of your posts since the Giants game have been to build up Randle and tear down DMC. Again, this is a good post on analysis. But the conclusion is pure projection.
 

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Thanks for this. Really nice analysis. Fantastic use of still shots to illustrate your observations (not easy to show a guy's indecisiveness in a still shot but I think you managed). Well done.

Trying to pause on All-22 at just the right time is a pain, for sure.

Glad you liked the analysis.
 

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I will break down all of Darren McFadden's runs here in the same way I broke down Randle's. I will try to include pics to make a better argument, whether I am right or wrong in my previous assessments of DMac.

Let me also preface by saying, I would love to see McFadden become the guy. His explosion and speed is exciting for me too. If he earns the spot, I will root for him.

Here we go:

2nd Quarter

10:53 McFadden off LT for 8 yards: There is a gaping hole and McFadden is quickly to the second level.

YvAJPr.png


His speed and explosion allow him to the second level before the defense can react. He isn't even touched until he hits the 45.
lmmthI.png


This is the same play Randle popped off his big gains. This was our best designed running play in the game. McFadden flashes here so well, it's easy to understand excitement.

10:07 McFadden off LG for 3 yards: There is a gaping hole pre-snap. This looks like it was actually an audible by Romo when he saw the hole over the LG.

BnShuc.png


Unfortunately, for whatever reason, McFadden hesitates for a step or two which enables the linebacker to get to the hole before him. This should have been a hitter, but McFadden's hesitation slowed it down.

vwiyDa.png


8:34 McFadden off RT for 3 yards: There is another gaping hole for McFadden to the right side. Again, this should be a big hitter.

XeMaRs.png


Instead, McFadden for some reason pauses and take a few stutter steps, giving the Giants time to converge and close the hole.

0nboAc.png


7:17 McFadden of RG for 3 yards: This is the same play the Cowboys ran the first snap of the game. McFadden makes a decisive cut this time and, although the backside defender is there, he is able to pick up 3 yards. This is a good, hard and decisive run. This is the dirty work. This is what he needs to do more of.

HZ3nkb.png


3rd Quarter

4:53 McFadden off LT pushed out of bounds after 1 yard gain: He does so many things wrong on this run I don't know where to start.

First hole he passes up is a gaping cutback that would have netted atleast 3-4 yards, or hit the burners to the outside, but instead he pauses and stutter steps again

jDGy9n.png


The same moment from another angle shows how indecisive he was. Anything was better than stuttering. Cut and go, or hit the outside with speed.

Zdtqdx.png


He finally commits to going outside. Once he does, he has another opportunity to either turn on the jets or cut back, he hesitates again...

s1Cypm.png


At this point, Beasley has been blocking for several second and loses his man. McFadden doesn't lower his shoulder and try to run through the smaller DB, he's pushed out of bounds... This is the run where he lost me.

4th Quarter

9:05 McFadden up the middle for -2 yards: He has no shot here.
Whitehead is beat to the insdie by Collins and pops McFadden in the backfield. As X and I have pointed out in several other threads, the blocking at the next level as well as by the TE/WRs in the game was horrendous. If Whitehead can just chip Colling, McFadden may go the distance.

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My analysis:
As I have said in a plethora of threads now, McFadden shows liveliness. He is fluid, quick and fast. He has prototypical size and looks as though he could/should be able to break tackles. The unfortunate truth is, just like in Oakland, he doesn't have the patience, confidence or vision needed to take full advantage of his gifts. The holes he missed were gaping and he literally either ran away from them, or waited for them to close.

I want him to show up on the field. I want to see that home run ability in a feature back. The unfortunate truth is, McFadden doesn't have the most important tools (as Emmitt showed us) to be a feature back: The vision, the confidence and the patience. If you are mad that Randle is leaving yards on the field, McFadden should be maddening for you. Will he hit a big shot here and there? Yes. But he is going to strike out far more often. That's why he's a change of pace guy. That's why I prefer Randle.

Now, a caveat to all of this is, he missed some training camp and is on a new team. Could he gain the confidence and understand the scheme better? Certainly! Could that lead to better decision making and less busted runs? Absolutely. Does history show that will be the case? No.

Very nice. Thanks again.

I see what you are saying in most cases
I agree on some, not on others.

To be honest, I see what DMC saw and why he ran in the direction he did.

Until proven otherwise, imam going to chalk up his indecisiveness to not having these looks before.
He my need to adjust.
I highly doubt that he will ALWAYS hesitate or NOT go to better hole sooner, faster.

I do agree that you do draw a somewhat biased conclusion at the end of each case.


All in all.... I like it. Let's hope for better runs so we get better reviews from you.... Keep 'em coming.
 

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This sort of confirms my feeling( strum has mentioned this too) that Dmac is a bad fit for zone scheme.good job OP.
 

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Reallyl? What was this then?



The vast majority of your posts since the Giants game have been to build up Randle and tear down DMC. Again, this is a good post on analysis. But the conclusion is pure projection.

The conclusion is absolutely projection. I won't argue with that at all. Every conclusion is projection until the season is over. These are my opinions solely. I don't think I need to post a disclaimer, nor do you, for anyone to know that.Ii appreciate if you like the analysis. If you disagree, I am open to your input. However, you're essentially debating about debating at this point. That's circular and a waste of our time.

So, what are your thoughts and analysis?

And you're right, I forgot about that comment. Mostly that was a response to the guys in the Randle thread who I told I would make this thread.
 

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So, what are your thoughts and analysis?

Its exactly what I posted in the other McFadden thread one hour ago -

When Marion Barber III was the 3rd down back he made a lot of plays on passing downs and playing against tired defenses. Jerry signed him to a big extension and made a first down back - and I said at the time it was a mistake. It was.

I'm not down on Randle but I see him the same way, a very good 3rd down RB but a guy who isn't a #1 and will wear down if he has to stay in that role. I would give DMC a lot more carries than he got this week and over the course of the season I think all four RBs on the roster are going to have to split the carries for this team to do well.
 

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Very nice. Thanks again.

I see what you are saying in most cases
I agree on some, not on others.

To be honest, I see what DMC saw and why he ran in the direction he did.

Until proven otherwise, imam going to chalk up his indecisiveness to not having these looks before.
He my need to adjust.
I highly doubt that he will ALWAYS hesitate or NOT go to better hole sooner, faster.

I do agree that you do draw a somewhat biased conclusion at the end of each case.


All in all.... I like it. Let's hope for better runs so we get better reviews from you.... Keep 'em coming.

I have said before and truly mean this, I hope his indecisiveness is something that gets better with time. I will also say I absolutely understand how some guys figure it out later on in their career and that is definitely still a viable outcome for McFadden. However, at this juncture, all I can go on is what I have seen in Oakland and in his admittedly limited time here and that is a lack of patience, vision and confidence. I don't expect everyone to agree, but at least I have provided a breakdown (with color photos haha) of why I drew my conclusions.
 

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I have said before and truly mean this, I hope his indecisiveness is something that gets better with time. I will also say I absolutely understand how some guys figure it out later on in their career and that is definitely still a viable outcome for McFadden. However, at this juncture, all I can go on is what I have seen in Oakland and in his admittedly limited time here and that is a lack of patience, vision and confidence. I don't expect everyone to agree, but at least I have provided a breakdown (with color photos haha) of why I drew my conclusions.

Understood.

I just think Oakland was just a bad deal for him.
No good HC.
No good QB.
No good OL.

Defenses focusing on the run... NEVER fearing the pass.

Let's see :)
 
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