Darren McFadden as the starting running back

[kevm3]

well we'll get to really see what McFadden is about since he'll have an excellent O-line to run behind.

 

[jnday]

its Mcfaddens job to lose.....

That is the worst possible outcome if it true. I rather have Randle and I never thought under any circumstances I would say that.

 

[jnday]

Not going to act like I am a coach because I am not. But I will make a case for him.
I think DMAC is going to surprise a lot of people.
4 reasons.
1. He has always wanted to be a Dallas Cowboy and is now out of that crappy organization where players go to never be seen again.
He is surrounded be a great team and great leaders who are playing for something and will push him to his limits. he will be a part of something special here and this coaching staff will get the most of him.
2. I think McFadden comes in with a chip on his shoulder.
3. He has never had a o-line like this, he just needs lanes, that is where he will excel.
4. If you have paid attention you will hear little things Garrett has said in the past, he likes his backs to hit the run play called and get what is there.
This matches McFadden perfect because he does not have to rely on average vision. DMAC has speed and burst that Murray did not have. I think you will see McFadden have more big runs per rush attempt than Murray.

I thinks the biggest question mark is those tough grind out and short yardage runs, but I also think people will be surprised here as well.
Randle and Williams are much better at this than people think. The question is can they be a work horse, however they do not have to.
We can use them all.

Despite what many people and media think we will run the ball and we will be very effective. We may not have the league leader in rushing, but I bet we are one of the best rushing teams, and the media will look like fools again.

The one key point that has been overlooked in most discussions is that a big part of the physical, smash-mouth running game is now gone from this team. I was not in favor of keeping Murray, but I assumed that the team would find a decent replacement in the draft or free agency. Without a physical RB, this team is not going to be as effective.

 

[TheCount]

I am going to start looking at the RB class for the next draft. I have s strong feeling that the team will need one or two for the roster.

They'll definitely need one, none of the guys we have are long term answers, but I think they are fine for short term use.

 

[tideh20heel]

Help us, DMC, you're our only hope.

Great Star Wars Day quote

 

[Redball Express]

Ok. I know some will jump on this pro and con.

I would like to take a different approach though.

Reply to this thread as if you were one of the offensive coaches .... In a WW(insert coaches initials here)do?

It could even be an offensive coach from a different team.

We have enough fan opinion....

What do you think an offensive coach can plan or scheme to not only make DMF successful but to resurrect a career that started in the dumps?

Having better offensive minds, a better organization and a better supporting cast has to give Darren some sort of chance to be the player many believed he could be coming out of the draft yes?

Think about this... If we drafted him in 2008, he would be our 6-7th year starter.

I look at McFadden like when we signed Eddie George.

Once great player who suffered a lot of injuries and is not the same now.

Not to say he cant contribute.

But I think Williams and the others will be carrying the load for us.

McFadden is a wild card.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Ok. I know some will jump on this pro and con.

I would like to take a different approach though.

Reply to this thread as if you were one of the offensive coaches .... In a WW(insert coaches initials here)do?

It could even be an offensive coach from a different team.

We have enough fan opinion....

What do you think an offensive coach can plan or scheme to not only make DMF successful but to resurrect a career that started in the dumps?

Having better offensive minds, a better organization and a better supporting cast has to give Darren some sort of chance to be the player many believed he could be coming out of the draft yes?

Think about this... If we drafted him in 2008, he would be our 6-7th year starter.

I bet that Randle is going to be the starter when its all said and done. If he can stop stealing underwear.

 

[xwalker]

Ok. I know some will jump on this pro and con.

I would like to take a different approach though.

Reply to this thread as if you were one of the offensive coaches .... In a WW(insert coaches initials here)do?

It could even be an offensive coach from a different team.

We have enough fan opinion....

What do you think an offensive coach can plan or scheme to not only make DMF successful but to resurrect a career that started in the dumps?

Having better offensive minds, a better organization and a better supporting cast has to give Darren some sort of chance to be the player many believed he could be coming out of the draft yes?

Think about this... If we drafted him in 2008, he would be our 6-7th year starter.

McFadden is the type of RB that really needs a couple of steps before getting hit. Obviously, all RBs prefer not to get hit in the backfield, but some of the guys like like to dance around can deal with it and even turn it to their advantage when all of the defenders are in the backfield and they manage to get past the line where there are minimal defenders remaining. Murray was similar in this regards in that he needed a couple of steps. In Oakland McFadden rarely got those couple of steps because the OL was not good and defenses stacked the line against the run because their passing game was not a threat.

If McFadden can get past the line, then he is always a threat to break a big run. The 2014 version of McFadden still appeared to be very fast and much faster then Murray.

McFadden is also terrific in Pass Protection and he is a good receiver.

The Cowboys Zone scheme seems perfect for McFadden, IMO.

 

[xwalker]

I look at McFadden like when we signed Eddie George.

Once great player who suffered a lot of injuries and is not the same now.

Not to say he cant contribute.

But I think Williams and the others will be carrying the load for us.

McFadden is a wild card.

No, McFadden still has terrific speed. George could bare run by the time he got to the Cowboys.

McFadden is only 27.

 

[Deep_South]

From a pure numbers perspective, Eddie George averaged 3.0, 3.4, and 3.3 yards per carry in the three seasons before joining the Cowboys, where he averaged 3.3 ypc during his one season with us before he retired.

Darren McFadden averaged 3.3, 3.3, and 3.4 ypc in the three years before joining the Cowboys, but he still has enough speed for Garrett to have him in the mix for kick returns. (Presumably his ypc will go up running behind our line.) I would feel a lot more comfortable if Jason had him replacing Lance Dunbar (3.4 ypc) instead of DeMarco. He could do that job well, with the added bonus of bringing his ability to protect the QB, and the stability of his veteran presence to the running backs group specifically, as well as in the locker room. If it does turn out that he ends up replacing Dunbar, I think it improves our running game in the backup/complimentary back area because he has all of the tools needed to start, and I don't think Dunbar is there right now. I've wanted a vet backup running back for a long time, and I'm glad we have McFadden on the Cowboys.

 

[Donny Phoenix]

As of today, I personally am in the corner of interested to see if DMac can rejuvenate his career with an O-line, elite QB and WR combo. Not expecting him to be DeMarco Murray. In that little highlight film, saw him bury his head in a few defenders' chests with no fear and push em back, then give em a spin move for a cpl more yards. I saw some wiggle and really good speed. Hear he's a good pass protector. He's coming to his favorite team growing up and it's a solid DC team coming off a surprisingly good season where they missed a shot at the SB by a bad call.

Better situation from any angle you look at it. Don't think DC will run him down like they did DeMarco. Defense should be much better with pass rush, new CB, and injured cats coming back. I like DMac in a committee with Randle, Williams, and Dunbar. But I don't think Williams will see the field much. I don't get the full-on love affair with Ryan Williams. He flashed in a couple of preseason games against non-starters. Never was able to crack the 53, let alone the game day 46. There's no big conspiracy to hide him from the rest of the league, then unleash him on unsuspecting defenses.

I think DMac will do well. Can't wait to see what Linehan does with him, and what he does with the opportunity. It's all on him, tho.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Pass blocking and receiving is why I think McFadden will be the third down. And with limited carrys he could be a threat for 10+ on shotgun draws. I believe belive Randle will get the bulk of run down carries. I agree with on the pas blocking point that coukd get McFadden on the field, but I think is good enough there that teams have to respect the pass on run downs

I agree. Randle will be the every down back with the group we have now.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

I am hoping Williams is fully ready to go this season and Randall is done stealing drawers and cologne, because they will need a guy to tote the rock on the early downs. The only way I see McFadden lasting the season is if he is the third down back.

 

[RandyOh]

We all knew these threads were coming. The thread where people try to justify and talk themselves into not drafting a RB.

"we will be fine" I think is my favorite.

Fine for what exactly? As in, fine for a championship? Im certainly one of those guys that believes you dont need a complete stud behind this line. But to depend on the guys we have here right now is REALLY stretching it.

We depended on an injury prone RB to take us deep in the playoffs last season. We will be fine. Oline will be even better, we picked up much better run blocking fullbacks, and we picked up another blocking TE in the draft. RUN DMC has never been apart of a team like this in Oakland. Their will be no stacking the box with LB and safeties anymore or Dez and Witten will have the games of their careers.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I look at McFadden like when we signed Eddie George.

Once great player who suffered a lot of injuries and is not the same now.

Not to say he cant contribute.

But I think Williams and the others will be carrying the load for us.

McFadden is a wild card.

I couldn't disagree more.

I think you will be proven to be wrong in that comparison.

Eddie George looked like he needed a walker. It was embarrassing.

He contributed nothing, didn't even earn playing time.
That's not the case with DMF.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I bet that Randle is going to be the starter when its all said and done. If he can stop stealing underwear.

Possible.

He might get a one shot, golden opportunity.

Then he'll drive by a walmart and muck it up!

 

[Eric_Boyer]

We all knew these threads were coming. The thread where people try to justify and talk themselves into not drafting a RB.

"we will be fine" I think is my favorite.

Fine for what exactly? As in, fine for a championship? Im certainly one of those guys that believes you dont need a complete stud behind this line. But to depend on the guys we have here right now is REALLY stretching it.

we have backs drafted in rounds 1 and 2 on this roster already.

I will never get the fan that thinks our 2016 season hinges on a rookie picked on day 2 or later. it's like you just started paying attention?

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

No, McFadden still has terrific speed. George could bare run by the time he got to the Cowboys.

McFadden is only 27.

Like seriously!!

McFadden is the type of RB that really needs a couple of steps before getting hit. Obviously, all RBs prefer not to get hit in the backfield, but some of the guys like like to dance around can deal with it and even turn it to their advantage when all of the defenders are in the backfield and they manage to get past the line where there are minimal defenders remaining. Murray was similar in this regards in that he needed a couple of steps. In Oakland McFadden rarely got those couple of steps because the OL was not good and defenses stacked the line against the run because their passing game was not a threat.

If McFadden can get past the line, then he is always a threat to break a big run. The 2014 version of McFadden still appeared to be very fast and much faster then Murray.

McFadden is also terrific in Pass Protection and he is a good receiver.

The Cowboys Zone scheme seems perfect for McFadden, IMO.

Legitimate, unbiased points.

"In Oakland McFadden rarely got those couple of steps because the OL was not good and defenses stacked the line against the run because their passing game was not a threat."

THIS IS JUST TRUE!




"If McFadden can get past the line, then he is always a threat to break a big run. The 2014 version of McFadden still appeared to be very fast and much faster then Murray."


ALSO TRUE.... NOT JUST A "we hope"


"McFadden is also terrific in Pass Protection and he is a good receiver."

"The Cowboys Zone scheme seems perfect for McFadden"

TRUE AND TRUE.


So why all the haters?

 

[xwalker]

Like seriously!!








Legitimate, unbiased points.

"In Oakland McFadden rarely got those couple of steps because the OL was not good and defenses stacked the line against the run because their passing game was not a threat."

THIS IS JUST TRUE!




"If McFadden can get past the line, then he is always a threat to break a big run. The 2014 version of McFadden still appeared to be very fast and much faster then Murray."


ALSO TRUE.... NOT JUST A "we hope"


"McFadden is also terrific in Pass Protection and he is a good receiver."

"The Cowboys Zone scheme seems perfect for McFadden"

TRUE AND TRUE.


So why all the haters?

There are people at CZ that would complain is you gave the a $100 bill because they wanted it in twenties.

 

[Tabascocat]

There are people at CZ that would complain is you gave the a $100 bill because they wanted it in twenties.

QFT, but I would require two fiddies!