Darren Woodson: "There are no days off"

[CPonder14]

Show me where I said he struggled because of it. I simply agreed with Woodson and called your "free country" argument lame (which it clearly is).

But hey, what does Woodson know about winning playoff games?

So you don't believe he struggled because he went to Mexico, yet you agree with Woodson? hmmm lets think about that one for a second.

 

[tyke1doe]

What does that have to do with anything? Last i checked this was a free country, and even if Romo was 0-7 in the playoffs he could go to Cabo.

No one is talking about his constitutional rights.

We're talking about whether the perception of him going to Cabo will be the same as Brady going to Cabo or hanging out with a celebrity.

It won't be because Brady has three Super Bowl rings and Romo has zero.

 

[CPonder14]

No one is talking about his constitutional rights.

We're talking about whether the perception of him going to Cabo will be the same as Brady going to Cabo or hanging out with a celebrity.

It won't be because Brady has three Super Bowl rings and Romo has zero.

and why does it matter?

 

[CPonder14]

I swear to god, you people are making way to big a deal out of the whole thing. Seriously

 

[Boysboy]

No one is talking about his constitutional rights.

We're talking about whether the perception of him going to Cabo will be the same as Brady going to Cabo or hanging out with a celebrity.

It won't be because Brady has three Super Bowl rings and Romo has zero.

So until you get that Super Bowl ring, or for that matter, until you get a playoff win...

1. You can't be married

2. You can't have a girlfriend

3. You can't go out to the movies on Fri nights, or Sat nights for that matter

4. You have to keep yourself locked in your own home during the bye week

5. I'll go a step further-you have to keep yourself locked in your own closet during the bye week

6. So therefore-you can't take your OWN mother, father, and brother to New Mexico for the bye weekend just merely to go SIGHT SEEING at monuments, museums, et al

Sorry, but I don't get all the logic.

 

[Doomsday101]

I swear to god, you people are making way to big a deal out of the whole thing. Seriously

I agree. I don't think going to Mexico had anything to do with the loss. Hell maybe more players on the team should have gone to Mexico because staying home in Dallas sure as hell did not help Crayton or some others who were screwing up in the game.

 

[tyke1doe]

and why does it matter?

Because The Herd made the comparison between Romo and Brady.

 

[CPonder14]

So until you get that Super Bowl ring, or for that matter, until you get a playoff win...

1. You can't be married

2. You can't have a girlfriend

3. You can't go out to the movies on Fri nights, or Sat nights for that matter

4. You have to keep yourself locked in your own home during the bye week

5. I'll go a step further-you have to keep yourself locked in your own closet during the bye week

6. So therefore-you can't take your OWN mother, father, and brother to New Mexico for the bye weekend just merely to go SIGHT SEEING at monuments, museums, et al

Sorry, but I don't get all the logic.

I agree

 

[tyke1doe]

So until you get that Super Bowl ring, or for that matter, until you get a playoff win...

1. You can't be married

2. You can't have a girlfriend

3. You can't go out to the movies on Fri nights, or Sat nights for that matter

4. You have to keep yourself locked in your own home during the bye week

5. I'll go a step further-you have to keep yourself locked in your own closet during the bye week

6. So therefore-you can't take your OWN mother, father, and brother to New Mexico for the bye weekend just merely to go SIGHT SEEING at monuments, museums, et al

Sorry, but I don't get all the logic.

You don't get the logic because you're engaging in a straw man argument. Simply put, you're raising your own arguments and implying that I embrace them and then drawing a conclusion.

Where did I say Romo couldn't have a girlfriend, get married, go to the movies, had to lock himself in the closet, etc.

Please don't engage in logical fallacies and then attribute them to me.

I simply made a remark about why Brady and Romo weren't in the same situation.

But it's Woodson who made the comment. And I trust him (He has three Super Bowl rings if you forgot) and his experience over yours any day.

And it's Woodson who said there is no off day. He has Super Bowl rings. Romo doesn't. The Cowboys are out of the playoffs.

So who do you think knows what he's talking about from experience?

 

[Boysboy]

You don't get the logic because you're engaging in a straw man argument. Simply put, you're raising your own arguments and implying that I embrace them and then drawing a conclusion.

Where did I say Romo couldn't have a girlfriend, get married, go to the movies, had to lock himself in the closet, etc.

Please don't engage in logical fallacies and then attribute them to me.

I simply made a remark about why Brady and Romo weren't in the same situation.

But it's Woodson who made the comment. And I trust him (He has three Super Bowl rings if you forgot) and his experience over yours any day.

And it's Woodson who said there is no off day. He has Super Bowl rings. Romo doesn't. The Cowboys are out of the playoffs.

So who do you think knows what he's talking about from experience?

This is bull. I'm sure Woodson HAS tooken a weekend off during the bye.

If memory serves, Jimmy DID give his team some time off during bye weeks here, and Woodson himself, if memory serves, has tooken weekend vacations himself.

 

[tyke1doe]

So until you get that Super Bowl ring, or for that matter, until you get a playoff win...

1. You can't be married

2. You can't have a girlfriend

3. You can't go out to the movies on Fri nights, or Sat nights for that matter

4. You have to keep yourself locked in your own home during the bye week

5. I'll go a step further-you have to keep yourself locked in your own closet during the bye week

6. So therefore-you can't take your OWN mother, father, and brother to New Mexico for the bye weekend just merely to go SIGHT SEEING at monuments, museums, et al

Sorry, but I don't get all the logic.

I'll also note that it's interesting you omitted the main reason why the Mexico trip became controversial - JESSICA SIMPSON!!!

Now, my position is I don't think it was a distraction. But I like what Phil Simms said on The Jim Rome Show. He said he doubts the Mexico trip affected Romo's play. But it became a distraction to the other players in terms of the media coverage and the endless questions they had to answer. And he said even though players may say it had no impact, it does.

Simms also said as the quarterback, Romo is the leader of the team. And he has to show other teammates that he will outwork everyone to get better because as he goes so go his teammates.

Simms said Parcells often told him to carry playbooks around the complex and retreat into a room as if he were studying film. He knew Simms would put in the necessary work. But Simms said Parcells told him, "I don't care if you go in that room and fall asleep. I need the other players to know you're going to do whatever it takes to be better because they're watching you."

There's wisdom in that.

Maybe it didn't affect Romo. But who's to say because he went off to Mexico with Jessica Simpson, the other players saw that and said, "Shoot, if Romo is being all relaxed then we should too." And maybe those players couldn't switch it on and off like Romo.

 

[BehindEnemyLinez]

I love D.Woodson and I hate to challenge anything he has to say when it comes to football but for ANYONE to say that the weekend off had anything to do w/ this loss is crazy! The issues we had in this game are the SAME ones we've been dealing with for the past few seasons...what makes anyone think that an extra 2-3 days of work is going to change anything?! Besides, did Fasano or Crayton (both made BIG drops) go to Cabo? How about Gurode, Flo or Colombo (who some attacked for their bad snaps and lack of pass protection)? Or maybe that was Jacques Reeves chillin' w/ Romo because he sure was on an ISLAND out there in pass coverage! Point blank, the same troubles we were able to overcome during the season reared their ugly heads once again in the playoffs and our Supermen (Romo, TO, Witten) weren't able to save us this time...and it sucks big time! :bang2:

 

[tyke1doe]

This is bull. I'm sure Woodson HAS tooken a weekend off during the bye.

First, the word is "taken."

Second, You call it "bull" yet you're not certain what Woodson has or hasn't done.

Third, We're not just talking about taking days off during a bye week. We're talking about the bye week before a playoff game and we're talking about preparing at all times during the bye week. I'm fairly certain he probably took days off during the bye week also. But he also probably studied too.

If memory serves, Jimmy DID give his team some time off during bye weeks here, and Woodson himself, if memory serves, has tooken weekend vacations himself.

Are you referring to your memory simply because you're trying to prove a point but have no evidence to back up your claim?

Again, so what if Jimmy Johnson gave his team a day off? Jimmy Johnson's Cowboys teams won Super Bowls.

Jimmy Johnson also worked his team to death. Maybe Jimmy knew how tough he was on his Cowboys and could give them a day off. I don't know.

Trying to compare Jimmy Johnson and Wade Phillips is like trying to compare Brady and Romo.

When you win, then it's not an issue.

When you lose, it's an issue.

That may not be fair. But if you don't like it win, then take all the trips to Mexico you'd like.

 

[Boysboy]

I'll also note that it's interesting you omitted the main reason why the Mexico trip became controversial - JESSICA SIMPSON!!!

Now, my position is I don't think it was a distraction. But I like what Phil Simms said on The Jim Rome Show. He said he doubts the Mexico trip affected Romo's play. But it became a distraction to the other players in terms of the media coverage and the endless questions they had to answer. And he said even though players may say it had no impact, it does.

Simms also said as the quarterback, Romo is the leader of the team. And he has to show other teammates that he will outwork everyone to get better because as he goes so go his teammates.

Simms said Parcells often told him to carry playbooks around the complex and retreat into a room as if he were studying film. He knew Simms would put in the necessary work. But Simms said Parcells told him, "I don't care if you go in that room and fall asleep. I need the other players to know you're going to do whatever it takes to be better because they're watching you."

There's wisdom in that.

Maybe it didn't affect Romo. But who's to say because he went off to Mexico with Jessica Simpson, the other players saw that and said, "Shoot, if Romo is being all relaxed then we should too." And maybe those players couldn't switch it on and off like Romo.

On a side note, it's been WELL-DOCUMENTED(outside of this Cabo trip) that Romo spends hours, days and nights in the game film room. Even Parcells repeatedly praised him for this.(as well all know, Tuna NEVER praises ANYONE)

You make some valid points, but if, let's say, Romo locked himself in a closet the entire bye weekend, would that have sent positive messages to his team? The logic is way off.

 

[AbeBeta]

So you don't believe he struggled because he went to Mexico, yet you agree with Woodson? hmmm lets think about that one for a second.

No, I believe his trip to Mexico was a symptom that the team wasn't as focused as they should be.

Romo and Witten are the leaders on this offense -- if they go off and to a resort it send the message the everyone should just relax and take it easy.

If they plan their freaking vacation during the 6 month off they get each year and choose to stay in town it sends the message that players need to bear down and do whatever work they can on their own.

 

[AbeBeta]

I swear to god, you people are making way to big a deal out of the whole thing. Seriously

And Romo knew that is EXACTLY what would happen if he went off with Jessica Simpson, came back and got bounced from the playoffs.

He's earned this criticism and he's earned it good.

 

[Boysboy]

No, I believe his trip to Mexico was a symptom that the team wasn't as focused as they should be.

Romo and Witten are the leaders on this offense -- if they go off and to a resort it send the message the everyone should just relax and take it easy.

If they plan their freaking vacation during the 6 month off they get each year and choose to stay in town it sends the message that players need to bear down and do whatever work they can on their own.

Wow-this is amazing how this thread has more life than the energizer bunny.

Again-Romo and Witten went to HOLLYWOOD with Britney during the bye week before the Philly game, but we ended up blowing out that team in The Linc, with Romo putting up some eye-popping numbers.:bang2:

 

[Doomsday101]

Yeah, Crayton drops passes because Romo went to Mexico. Damn Crayton you have a nice built in execuse and it can all be dumped on Romo. Romo did what he felt was right for him if people don't like it well then that is their problem. I respect Woodson but he did what he felt was right for him and Tony Romo will do what he feels is best for him. Tony has showed that he is a hard worker and does what he has to, to get ready for a game. I guess the old saying is true you can't please everyone.

 

[WoodysGirl]

No one is talking about his constitutional rights.

We're talking about whether the perception of him going to Cabo will be the same as Brady going to Cabo or hanging out with a celebrity.

It won't be because Brady has three Super Bowl rings and Romo has zero.

Forget perception. The reality is that it was reported by several assistants that the Cowboys practiced very well leading up to the game. That the days off did not affect anything in practice. Practices were as sharp and as consistent as they'd been in a long time and that the assistants were very shocked at how awful the 'boys played in the game.

 

[Boysboy]

And Romo knew that is EXACTLY what would happen if he went off with Jessica Simpson, came back and got bounced from the playoffs.

He's earned this criticism and he's earned it good.

It's not like he skipped practice, skipped his game film session, played hookey, etc to go off with his celebrity g/f.

Dude-your logic is WAY off. I don't get the "consequences" you keep bringing up.