Twitter: Darren Woodson Snubbed for HOF Again

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30 Pittsburgh Steelers in HOF, 26 Green Bay Packers. Cowboys have 16 and there are people who say there are too many Cowboys in HOF already.
 

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Finalists breakdown by position:
QB- 1
DL-2__DE, DE\DT
OL- 2 __T, G
LB- 3
WR- 3
DB- 4 ___S, FS, DB, DB
Four defensive backs made the finalists list over him.
The bulk of Woody's career was simultaneous with two careers-

Leroy Butler 1990-2001__all with the Packers; 12 seasons
John Lynch 1993-2003___Buccaneers, 2004-2007 Broncos; 15 seasons

Darren Woodson 1992-2003__all with the Cowboys; 12 seasons (11as starter)

Last half of Darren's career was simultaneous with the other two beginning their careers-

Ronde Barber 1997-2012__all with the Buccaneers; 13 seasons
Charles Woodson 1998-2005 Packers, 2006-2012 Raiders, 2013-2015 Packers; 18 seasons

A positive note going forward- this was Woodson's first year of eligibility.
MY ERROR - It is Charles Woodson in his first year of eligibility, not Darren Woodson
 

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30 Pittsburgh Steelers in HOF, 26 Green Bay Packers. Cowboys have 16 and there are people who say there are too many Cowboys in HOF already.

The Steelers and Packers have 10 championships between them and the Cowboys lost several title games to them.
 

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Charles Woodson is a lock for HOF. Comparing Charles to Darren and using pass defense stats does not tell the whole story. To me Darren was a strong safety who was excellent versus the run and the pass. Charles was more a free safety/ corner hybrid whose forte was pass defense.
 

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Woodson robbed again. One of the best safeties to ever play. Ever. Robbed again. At this rate, D Ware will get in before him.

Woodson's key value was his position flex. Would play S, Slot Corner, and dime LB. Could do it all. Let the Cowboys play with their base personnel, counting on Woodson to take up whatever slack was needed. I'd take him over Haley.

Huge value to a team. But doesn't show up so well in highlite reels, because you can't be that flexible *and* the best at each role you're filling.

Much like how Lee used to up the game of the entire defense, what Woodson brings shows up in the play of the entire unit, not himself.

And he played special teams til he retired. Just massively valuable.
 

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Charles Woodson is a lock for HOF. Comparing Charles to Darren and using pass defense stats does not tell the whole story. To me Darren was a strong safety who was excellent versus the run and the pass. Charles was more a free safety/ corner hybrid whose forte was pass defense.

Did Charles routinely take the slot WR?

Woody's position flex made the defense go, but it's not *seen* in splash plays.
 

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Charles Woodson is a lock for HOF. Comparing Charles to Darren and using pass defense stats does not tell the whole story. To me Darren was a strong safety who was excellent versus the run and the pass. Charles was more a free safety/ corner hybrid whose forte was pass defense.
Woody has been eligible for at least 10 years I think. No one is complaining about him not getting in over Charles, for gosh sakes. He should already be in!
 

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30 Pittsburgh Steelers in HOF, 26 Green Bay Packers. Cowboys have 16 and there are people who say there are too many Cowboys in HOF already.

Make that 13 championships between the Steelers and Packers. I left out the more recent ones. Those championships got a lot of those players in the Hall of Fame.
 

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Make that 11 championships between the Steelers and Packers.
You can't use that to explain why Woodson hasn't made the HoF in over 10 years. The problem is strong safeties aren't valued by the judges as much as free safeties. If you ever watched him play, you'd understand the love many fans have for him.
 

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Woodson robbed again. One of the best safeties to ever play. Ever. Robbed again. At this rate, D Ware will get in before him.


And to think, we've needed a safety for 5 years longer than he's been snubbed.

Wow, I guess 27 is old.
 

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You can't use that to explain why Woodson hasn't made the HoF in over 10 years. The problem is strong safeties aren't valued by the judges as much as free safeties. If you ever watched him play, you'd understand the love many fans have for him.

I watched Darren Woodson play and he was a great player for the Cowboys but not a Hall of Fame player. He didn’t have the numbers compared to the other safeties, that’s what the Hall of Fame voters look at. They’re looking at INTs/defensive scores. Many fans have love for a lot of the Cowboys players from the 90s. Some think Nate Newton, Moose Johnston and Bill Bates should be in the Hall of Fame. Just about every player from the 90s has gotten Hall of Fame votes from fans on this board.
 
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-------Ok, pulling the Bobby Walden card I know that are no spring chicken. Lol!

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Make that 13 championships between the Steelers and Packers. I left out the more recent ones. Those championships got a lot of those players in the Hall of Fame.

Counting the pre-Super Bowl era, I am pretty sure the Packers have 13 championships by themselves, while the Steelers have 6 SB wins.
 

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Woodson robbed again. One of the best safeties to ever play. Ever. Robbed again. At this rate, D Ware will get in before him.


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