David Helman: Dak winning league MVP isn't far-fetched

[TheMarathonContinues]

Like it or not, reputation is a PART of it.
Hurts being winner up in the Heisman is part of his resume.
You need to go back and learn what he did in Oklahoma.

Huh? So now his college resume is what you're taking into account? Even though he was considered to be a system QB in college lol. I mean I guess...not trying to get off track on this. We can just agree to disagree. I Don't think reputation has anything to do with being a candidate. IF you throw for 40 TD's and 10 picks and your team wins 12 Games......no matter what your reputation is you are a candidate.

 

[zekecowboy]

Be nice ........LOL

Seriously, I can see him having a career year with fewer career stats and Jerry paying him top 3 $$$$$. In other words, ALL ducks are lined up for this to be a huge year for him.




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Why Cowboys QB Dak Prescott winning league MVP isn’t so far-fetched​

Published Jun. 22, 2023 1:43 p.m. ET
What exactly would a Dak Prescott candidacy for NFL MVP look like?

I can feel the question sparking a social media meltdown already, but I'll press on. After all, it's mid-June and this is the time for idle speculation. The topic is in the news cycle already, as NFL.com's Adam Schein listed Prescott as a top dark horse candidate to win this year's award.

Prescott has the benefit of being the starting quarterback for the one team that's guaranteed to be in the headlines regardless of its record. But, as evidenced by the past 30 years, that's not enough on its own. Emmitt Smith is the only Cowboy to win the AP's NFL MVP, all the way back in 1993 when the team's '90s dynasty was at its peak.

What would it take for Dak to buck that trend? Honestly, not all that much more than we've already seen from him.

Dak Prescott has played 7 seasons for the Cowboys. He has thrown for 24,943 yards and 166 touchdowns. He was selected to play in 2 Pro Bowls. He has won the Offensive Rookie of the Year award and the Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year award.

Dak Prescott has a record of 2-4 in the playoffs in his career.

I am from Missouri, show me Dak.

 

[MarcusRock]

Ignoring the huge factor that narrative plays in the MVP vote and then acting like you are objective is absolutely hilarious.

I didn't realize that stats like passer rating and QBR were fringe stats, are we living in the 80s?

If you are just going to look at flat touchdowns and yards as the only stats worth considering, it's honestly not worth discussing further.

What narrative? The only narrative you've mentioned is "if it involves Cowboys players, we can't win anything because the big bad machine is trying to keep us down." This is kids accusing parents of playing favorites logic. 8 year-old kids, that is, although many carry it into adulthood. "Biased media" is the lazy way of saying you refuse to take the L even when you KNOW it's an L and thus never have to admit the obviously glaring L. The fact that adults now regularly do this to not admit wrong or defeat is so absurd.

Of course you don't want to discuss the MAIN stats that don't favor your case. Rating and QBR is considered of course but when have you ever heard a QB praised for QBRing his team to victory? It's yards and TDs people talk about because those are the things that get the results game in and game out so those matter more than your efficiency. If you're throwing the ball less, of course your efficiency stats tend to look better. But when a QB puts himself out there more, yet still makes almost half the mistakes, that's noticeable on top of the other main stats and compounds the superior season. Throw less, achieve less. Throw more, achieve more. It doesn't take a "narrative" to know that more is always noticed above less, hence the results of that vote.

 

[Shane612]

Huh? So now his college resume is what you're taking into account? Even though he was considered to be a system QB in college lol. I mean I guess...not trying to get off track on this. We can just agree to disagree. I Don't think reputation has anything to do with being a candidate. IF you throw for 40 TD's and 10 picks and your team wins 12 Games......no matter what your reputation is you are a candidate.

Yes. Hurts was a great college player. That's why he was a winner up in the Heisman.
When you're at that level of notoriety as a college player, MVP at the next level is in play.
It doesn't matter what you think. Hurts has already proven that he is not just a "system QB". He's already one of the best in the league.
GMs would take Hurts over Prescott in a minute.
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Dak will have 10 INT by the 13th game.
You don't have to worry about any of this. No one will confuse Hurts for Prescott .
lol

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yes. Hurts was a great college player. That's why he was a winner up in the Heisman.
When you're at that level of notoriety as a college player, MVP at the next level is in play.
It doesn't matter what you think. Hurts has already proven that he is not just a "system QB". He's already one of the best in the league.
GMs would take Hurts over Prescott in a minute.
.
Dak will have 10 INT by the 13th game.
You don't have to worry about any of this. No one will confuse Hurts for Prescott .
lol

Lol you aren’t making any sense and I tried to let you escape last post but you keep putting your foot in your mouth.

Reputation makes you a MVP candidate even though Hurts just a year ago was so much of a unknown the Eagles had two first rounders just in case he flopped.

Well….you meant his college reputation….where he’s known for being a system qb and for losing his starting job to Tua lol.

How to say you don’t know what you’re talking about without saying you don’t know what you’re talking about….

 

[Motorola]

Ironic thing about Dak winning MVP is that it would be ONE guy getting the credit for big team success.

Probably one of the lamest awards there is. Its basically a QB award for the team that wins the most games. Or close to it.

Especially in this century.
The last non- QB player to win league MVP - Adrian Peterson in 2012.
2006 - LaDainian Tomlinson
2005 - Shaun Alexander
2003 - Jamal Lewis was awarded the PFWA MVP; 3 QBs shared the AP MVP award
2001 - Marshall Faulk won the PFWA MVP
2000 - Marshall Faulk

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

He will win the SB and then the MVP. Now, what did I do with my weed?

you want a guest visit to help you figure out what to do with it?

 

[CowboyRoy]

Especially in this century.
The last non- QB player to win league MVP - Adrian Peterson in 2012.
2006 - LaDainian Tomlinson
2005 - Shaun Alexander
2003 - Jamal Lewis was awarded the PFWA MVP; 3 QBs shared the AP MVP award
2001 - Marshall Faulk won the PFWA MVP
2000 - Marshall Faulk

Faulk was amazing

 

[Shane612]

Lol you aren’t making any sense and I tried to let you escape last post but you keep putting your foot in your mouth.

Reputation makes you a MVP candidate even though Hurts just a year ago was so much of a unknown the Eagles had two first rounders just in case he flopped.

Well….you meant his college reputation….where he’s known for being a system qb and for losing his starting job to Tua lol.

How to say you don’t know what you’re talking about without saying you don’t know what you’re talking about….

Like I said he proved he's not a "system QB" long time ago.
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But you keep saying that if it makes you feel better about Dak.
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What does "system QB" mean anyway?
Wasn't Brady once thought to be a "system QB" too?

 

[MarcusRock]

Yawn. You would not know a screw job if you had a nut for a cap.

One of these days you'll actually debate me on a topic again instead of following me around in threads taking Sally Sidelines mean girl shots. You'd have to face that fear of being made to look like an idiot again though which is why you're a fanboi in the first place. Maybe I'll pretend to get schooled by you and you can finally resolve that trauma. Lol.

 

[SlammedZero]

Especially in this century.
The last non- QB player to win league MVP - Adrian Peterson in 2012.
2006 - LaDainian Tomlinson
2005 - Shaun Alexander
2003 - Jamal Lewis was awarded the PFWA MVP; 3 QBs shared the AP MVP award
2001 - Marshall Faulk won the PFWA MVP
2000 - Marshall Faulk

That Adrian Peterson year was amazing. I've never seen a RB put a team on their back like he did that year. He was the offense.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Dak wouldn't even be in the top 5 of MVP of his own team.

 

[Calvin2Tony2Emmitt2Julius]

Far more fitting. Never known anyone in the media to be so obsessed with Dak Prescott. He must have a shrine of him in his room

Why is it that anyone that says anything positive about the guy has a Shrine in their room ? I mean talk about juvenile insults. Well that and it's corny as hell