David Helman: Dak winning league MVP isn't far-fetched

[TheMarathonContinues]

This can be true as well as what I said.
he is fair with Dak when he deserves it, but hes also “fair” with Dak when he doesn’t.
huge fanboy

Either way, hope hes right

I’ve never heard him say anything outlandish. He says he’s a top qb and he backs it up with stats.

 

[TheCritic]

I feel sorry for Dave Helman - that team of "reporters" he works with are a sad sack for sure!

 

[Rockport]

You must be joking? He LOVES him.

I guess I’ve been around longer than you.

 

[KJJ]

He had 0 shot at winning MVP in 2020.

MVP isn’t handed out to the guy with the most yards; Drew Brees has 0 MVPs. In 2020 you struggled to beat anyone with Dak healthy due to your defense, and he was on an alarming turnover rate. He was on pace for 16 interceptions and 12 fumbles. You had gone 8-8 the year before and the new Mike Nolan system was worse. When was the last time a QB with a losing record (or fringe .500 record) won MVP?

On top of that, Aaron Rodgers was on pace for one of the most proficient seasons in NFL history, 13-3 notwithstanding. 48 TDs, 5 picks, 121 passer rating. Might be the greatest season ever. That’s the part that makes this difficult… Dak doesn’t just need to have an alltime season, he needs to prove to be a superior QB to Patrick Mahomes in 2023. And Joe Burrow, and Josh Allen, and on and on. It’s why the top guys win piles of them, because they’re consistently the top guys in the MVP voting.

He had a shot if he kept putting up numbers and they were leading to wins. A QB has to win games to win MVP. The problem in 2020 was our defense was horrible! It was an historically bad defense and it was holding us back.

 

[Swagger]

I guess I’ve been around longer than you.

No.

 

[Swagger]

Dak isn’t some second or third guy on his rookie deal though. For 7 years now he’s been consistently the same pro bowl caliber QB. We already know what he’s made of, and we could probably predict his statline for the season. It would take a huge shift in circumstances for him to suddenly be outplaying Patrick Mahomes

Pro Bowl is pushing the boat out a bit there as well. Prescott is more of a back up Pro Bowler than a genuine regular Pro Bowler

 

[Swagger]

I love it when people claim Prescott was in the running for MVP after 4-5 games...shoot so was Ryan Fitzmagic!

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I love it when people claim Prescott was in the running for MVP after 4-5 games...shoot so was Ryan Fitzmagic!

When was that?

 

[Flamma]

Dak winning league MVP is a bit outlandish IMO. He's a pocket passer. He throws into coverage when need be like other pocket passers. Hurts came close because of their run game and his running ability. Then throwing against run defenses like Lamar Jackson did in 2019. Dak doesn't have the uxury of throwing aginst al run defenses, so he has to beat out all other pocket passers. Not going to happen.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He cuts down the interceptions he is all pro.

 

[stilltheguru]

I guess I’ve been around longer than you.

She embarrasses herself again.

 

[Alexander]

It would be funny to see some of the Dak haters here crapping their pants and crying if he won MVP.

I think it would be equally amusing to see the Romo groupies claw their eyes out if Prescott somehow was miracled to do that.

 

[Alexander]

He cuts down the interceptions he is all pro.

He was not an All Pro even at his peak, which unfortunately was his rookie season. Typically players descend in ability the longer they play. It is just an fact, particularly when they are in the same team. If he suddenly turns around and produces an All Pro season, it would be quite remarkable.

 

[Gator88]

So if he got Murray's votes he'd still be 3rd at 4 votes to Watt's 13 and Rodgers' 31. But I gather you're saying that Murray not looming as large would put more focus on Romo as the catalyst for that season although a strong case can be made that Murray's year is what allowed Romo to be so efficient in the first place. So Murray not looming as large might have led to less efficient stats as was the case for Romo in just about all of his other seasons. Heck, the only other time he ever led the NFL in anything before 2014 was in INTs just 2 years prior. And Rodgers had better TDs, Yards, and INTs. Those are the major categories, hence the results. It was a good campaign from Romo but MVP was not close and the votes reflected that.

LOL acting like the votes are representative of anything other than a story the media wants to tell.

Romo had a better season than Rodgers in the vast majority of efficiency stats, and the volume stats weren't that different outside of yards. Unfortunately, the media wasn't going to give Romo the MVP unless he shattered records so he didn't get anything close to the consideration he deserved.

 

[MarcusRock]

LOL acting like the votes are representative of anything other than a story the media wants to tell.

Romo had a better season than Rodgers in the vast majority of efficiency stats, and the volume stats weren't that different outside of yards. Unfortunately, the media wasn't going to give Romo the MVP unless he shattered records so he didn't get anything close to the consideration he deserved.

So ... conspiracy then. Got it. But, but the media though..... Apparently, they loved them some Murray. Lol.

Hundreds more yards, more TDs and almost half the INTs but it was a screw job. Okay.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

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He was not an All Pro even at his peak, which unfortunately was his rookie season. Typically players descend in ability the longer they play. It is just an fact, particularly when they are in the same team. If he suddenly turns around and produces an All Pro season, it would be quite remarkable.

Daks peak was not his rookie year I don’t know why that’s the new narrative but it’s entirely wrong.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He was not an All Pro even at his peak, which unfortunately was his rookie season. Typically players descend in ability the longer they play. It is just an fact, particularly when they are in the same team. If he suddenly turns around and produces an All Pro season, it would be quite remarkable.

As Helman points out he is not far from the 5000 yd 30 TD level already. Team success and low picks.

And most players outside of QB. You act like he is 35.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Be nice ........LOL

Seriously, I can see him having a career year with fewer career stats and Jerry paying him top 3 $$$$$. In other words, ALL ducks are lined up for this to be a huge year for him.




https://www.foxsports.com/stories/n...escott-winning-league-mvp-isnt-so-far-fetched

Why Cowboys QB Dak Prescott winning league MVP isn’t so far-fetched​

Published Jun. 22, 2023 1:43 p.m. ET
What exactly would a Dak Prescott candidacy for NFL MVP look like?

I can feel the question sparking a social media meltdown already, but I'll press on. After all, it's mid-June and this is the time for idle speculation. The topic is in the news cycle already, as NFL.com's Adam Schein listed Prescott as a top dark horse candidate to win this year's award.

Prescott has the benefit of being the starting quarterback for the one team that's guaranteed to be in the headlines regardless of its record. But, as evidenced by the past 30 years, that's not enough on its own. Emmitt Smith is the only Cowboy to win the AP's NFL MVP, all the way back in 1993 when the team's '90s dynasty was at its peak.

What would it take for Dak to buck that trend? Honestly, not all that much more than we've already seen from him.

Be nice ........LOL

Seriously, I can see him having a career year with fewer career stats and Jerry paying him top 3 $$$$$. In other words, ALL ducks are lined up for this to be a huge year for him.




https://www.foxsports.com/stories/n...escott-winning-league-mvp-isnt-so-far-fetched

Why Cowboys QB Dak Prescott winning league MVP isn’t so far-fetched​

Published Jun. 22, 2023 1:43 p.m. ET
What exactly would a Dak Prescott candidacy for NFL MVP look like?

I can feel the question sparking a social media meltdown already, but I'll press on. After all, it's mid-June and this is the time for idle speculation. The topic is in the news cycle already, as NFL.com's Adam Schein listed Prescott as a top dark horse candidate to win this year's award.

Prescott has the benefit of being the starting quarterback for the one team that's guaranteed to be in the headlines regardless of its record. But, as evidenced by the past 30 years, that's not enough on its own. Emmitt Smith is the only Cowboy to win the AP's NFL MVP, all the way back in 1993 when the team's '90s dynasty was at its peak.

What would it take for Dak to buck that trend? Honestly, not all that much more than we've already seen from him.

Whatever,,, every year he craps the bed, drops the microphone and walks off the field then 3 weeks later people act like it didn't happen. Welcome to the 2023 season. I'll agree it's all lined up for him,,, again,,, now he just needs to rise to the playoff occasion, sink that 3 foot putt.

 

[Captain-Crash]

he has a chance if all the other QB's get hurt and the backup has an awful season.

 

[Shane612]

MVP award is partly based on reputation of a player. Dak lacks it.
After 7 years, he is what he is.
.
I guess he could win the most improved player.