David Irving failed a drug test and is now facing a suspension

He was given a supplement from someone he trusted and had a marketing deal with them he's a young kid I doubt he knew
I don't believe that for a second. Players are told all the time, before you take any supplement, medication etc. check with the team. This is all on Irving. He's 23, went to college, he's not 6 years old.
 
Did you want DLaw gone too when he was suspended for PEDS, coming off his 8 sack season?

Well not like he showed up last year. 9 games played, 11 tackles and 1 sack. lol
Between Suspension and back issues, his career has been off to a rocky start.

Lord I hope Tapper can stay healthy and show he was misused at OU.
 
I swear, there's a contingency of posters here who live to call posters/players "idiots," "stupid," "morons," etc -- and that is all they ever post. No analysis of players, team play, anything of merit watsoever.

My ignore list is at two right now. But I'm on the verge of adding a couple more because they always say the same **** in every thread. Do these guys watch the Cowboys or just wait for the next person to slip up.

It's one thing to constructively criticize the team/players (like Alexander, say [sorry to use you as an example, bud]), but it goes both ways.

With these turkeys, it's only negativity and it get old. Anti-depresents are your friends.
 
I don't believe that for a second. Players are told all the time, before you take any supplement, medication etc. check with the team. This is all on Irving. He's 23, went to college, he's not 6 years old.

Also, I believe the team offers players the ability to test supplements to make sure no band ingredients in there. All teams know which substance they test for. This is David just being sheepish.
 
This is too silly a take to bother replying to seriously.

AT what point do you lay any blame at all on the constant drug failures on the head coach that creates the atmosphere and doles out the discipline?
 
I swear, there's a contingency of posters here who live to call posters/players "idiots," "stupid," "morons," etc -- and that is all they ever post. No analysis of players, team play, anything of merit watsoever.

My ignore list is at two right now. But I'm on the verge of adding a couple more because they always say the same **** in every thread. Do these guys watch the Cowboys or just wait for the next person to slip up.

It's one thing to constructively criticize the team/players (like Alexander, say [sorry to use you as an example, bud]), but it goes both ways.

With these turkeys, it's only negativity and it get old. Anti-depresents are your friends.

If you cut up those of us that dont always have overzealous rosey opinions on most things as you do, then you have to take the heat when we are proven right about being cautious.
 
Well not like he showed up last year. 9 games played, 11 tackles and 1 sack. lol
Between Suspension and back issues, his career has been off to a rocky start.

Lord I hope Tapper can stay healthy and show he was misused at OU.
I know, but my question was implied before this last (horrible) season he had, John :)
 
AT what point do you lay any blame at all on the constant drug failures on the head coach that creates the atmosphere and doles out the discipline?

If anything, if you believe Jimmy is being honest, it goes to the GM/Owner in Jerry.

For Irvings case, PEDs, I'm not sure you can blame anyone(edit: Jerry/Garrett) for that. Even if it was intentional by the player. Gregory was an odd case due to his supposed bi-polar disorder.
 
Well, it's on the player. I would think they are educated on what supplements they can and cannot take. Hopefully he learns a lesson from this. In the mean time, next man up!
 
If you cut up those of us that dont always have overzealous rosey opinions on most things as you do, then you have to take the heat when we are proven right about being cautious.
Nah, I'm referring to non-constructive posters, critical or otherwise. The ones who's most used words are "idiot" "dumb" etc. With nothing else to add. There's a few of them here. Zero critical thinking, just "blah blah" as my wonderful Sri Lankan neighbor says of people who offer nothing of value to any argument.

My post you replied to was pretty clear, Roy. Cut it out.
 
The nfl gives the nflpa a list of ok'd supplements. Even if he is that dumb his agent shouldn't be.

theFan guys just speculated about how some of these companies "change" their recipe which can cause the issue.

I was just about to suggest this.

It's very common practice in the supplement industry. Companies usually wait a quarter to update their label to say "x" ingredient is no longer part of the formula.
 
Lol. You can't bake this stuff up. Or rather, you don't have to. Smh. Strike one was the blonde streak. I looked past it. Strike 2 now.
 
Irving just went into the stupid pile.

Yes, David, if someone hands you a bottle claiming they put 100 pounds on their squat and the ingredient sounds like a chemistry experiment, it's probably a hormone altering compound.

I knew this when I was 18. Come on.
 
I swear, there's a contingency of posters here who live to call posters/players "idiots," "stupid," "morons," etc -- and that is all they ever post. No analysis of players, team play, anything of merit watsoever.

My ignore list is at two right now. But I'm on the verge of adding a couple more because they always say the same **** in every thread. Do these guys watch the Cowboys or just wait for the next person to slip up.

It's one thing to constructively criticize the team/players (like Alexander, say [sorry to use you as an example, bud]), but it goes both ways.

With these turkeys, it's only negativity and it get old. Anti-depresents are your friends.
Morons
 
If anything, if you believe Jimmy is being honest, it goes to the GM/Owner in Jerry.

For Irvings case, PEDs, I'm not sure you can blame anyone(edit: Jerry/Garrett) for that. Even if it was intentional by the player. Gregory was an odd case due to his supposed bi-polar disorder.

Why does it go back to the GM? For hiring Garrett? I completely agree with you there. :clap:
 

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