David Irving Instagram post

It can be whatever y'all want it to be don't mean it have to agree just like y'all don't have to agree with me. Who dude is or isn't sleeping with doesn't help or hurt the effort to win as long as its legal are you kidding me?

People are looking at it like y'all are judgmental or jealous because this is a case of that being so. Of course y'all are going to disagree but that's how I see it. I can see more with Zeke because his stuff was actually costing games but this right now nah.

Believe it or not who said everybody did want to have relations with two women? Again what does who someone loves have to do with winning? If someone like Gronk did the same thing what would the excuse be then? I think people like you are fibbing under the guise of winning because winning has jack to do with who people are sleeping with straight, gay, one person or more. That's my point and if you disagree that's cool we won't agree on everything.

You are trying to tell us that if he manages to get himself suspended, it won't hurt the team? You are seriously trying to tell us that if one of those special interest groups takes an interest, that the media coverage that could go along with that, won't distract and as a result, hurt the team?

If you review this thread, you will see that it has been said that people who have a problem with this type of behavior are just jealous. Well, that's a bunch of BS. That's lazy evaluations from people who just don't want to accept realities.

Yeah, I guess we don't agree. That's cool.
 
Of course you'd find someone to agree with you. Anybody can do that so just off that note you're not making sense. You don't know that because you haven't talked to everybody that works for the Cowboys. No need to tell stories to prove your point. If he can play he can get another payday in Dallas or somewhere else so eh.

I can't see the negative impact but Upenn disagrees with your notion of me being dumb.

Seriously? Do we need to "talk to everybody that works for the Cowboys" to know that this isn't anything that will help David Irving with the team? Do you not have the sense to know this for yourself?

I know a guy who works in the organization, should I reach out to him for verification that Irving didn't help himself?
 
Sounds like his wife is pretty awesome to me.

I don't know if it's his Wife or not. If it is, I suppose that this is one way of looking at it. On the other hand, what if it was my Wife with two dudes, expecting me to be OK with it?

I'm thinking I'm not that good of a human being. :laugh:
 
The if this was my daughter silly talk. Is my daughter grown? If so I wouldn't want to see it but I don't want to see or hear about my parents, brothers, sister, other family members sex lives either so whats your flipping point?

We all objectify women/men depending on your orientation so again whats your point? Get off your moral high horse Flanders lol.
SPeak for yourself about objectifying women. Im just saying, there are a lot of womens groups out there that will take offense or already have taken offense to yet another NFL player being an idiot.
 
I don't know if it's his Wife or not. If it is, I suppose that this is one way of looking at it. On the other hand, what if it was my Wife with two dudes, expecting me to be OK with it?

I'm thinking I'm not that good of a human being. :laugh:

Didn't he say it was a present from his wife?

I dunno I thought they said that
 
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Lashing out at fans is impacting him? Ok my friend stay off them drugs lol. If this is the worst impact it is having spare me.
Yes lashing out at his fans is impacting him, who pays his bills? Jerry, who pays Jerrys bills. The fans. Am I missing something?
 
Lets keep this thread clean guys. Remember, we are a family friendly site and we do encourage young people to post. Lets don't go overboard here.

Thank you,

ABQ
 
All I need is the opinion of a single person who thinks it's a negative thing. That's it. Whether that person is right or wrong, them being upset is a negative. A negative that didn't exist prior to Irvings latest stupid decision.

And I also know for a fact that there's not a single person involved with the Cowboys that would view it a a positive. Yet another strike against Irving getting a payday in Dallas.

And if you can't see the negative impact, you're as dumb as Irving himself.

But you go on and try to excuse stupid **** like this. It's your thing.
Good thing there are tens of thousands on instagram thinking this is a negative thing
 
Didn't he say it was a present from his wife?

I dunno I thought they said that

Yeah, but then there was some talk that it may be his girlfriend or some such. Earlier, it was reported that they were naked and that's not true so I don't know how accurate some of these details are.
 
Seriously? Do we need to "talk to everybody that works for the Cowboys" to know that this isn't anything that will help David Irving with the team? Do you not have the sense to know this for yourself?

I know a guy who works in the organization, should I reach out to him for verification that Irving didn't help himself?
I would actually love you to do that. It would quiet down a few people here. This is a team that has already expressed interest in this guy leaving the team. This is the nail in the coffin in my opinion
 
Good thing there are tens of thousands on instagram thinking this is a negative thing

Like I said, I invite anyone to show me how this positively impacts Irving's NFL career or earnings. Everything to lose, nothing to gain.

It's too bad that while we know he doesn't have the sense to know better, his girlfriend or whatever doesn't either. Makes for a scary combo. Dumb and dumber.
 
I would actually love you to do that. It would quiet down a few people here. This is a team that has already expressed interest in this guy leaving the team. This is the nail in the coffin in my opinion

If nothing else, it answers anyone's question about why it might be a 2nd round tender and not a 1st round tender. And last I checked, the difference on that was $1 million. So yeah, let the people making excuses for him brush off that $1 million too as "no big deal".
 
I'm the guy who "knows" that David Irving's prior stupid decisions cost a talented players millions by going undrafted. And this latest stupid decision does more of the same and shows he hasn't learned much.

You know nothing.

You are in the same position as we all are as fans so don't pretend like you have some inside knowledge or sources.

How many millions has Rob Gronkowski cost himself when he does far worse?
 
Like I said, I invite anyone to show me how this positively impacts Irving's NFL career or earnings. Everything to lose, nothing to gain.

It's too bad that while we know he doesn't have the sense to know better, his girlfriend or whatever doesn't either. Makes for a scary combo. Dumb and dumber.
Having a threesome is going to really destroy the world. Meanwhile we have idiots shooting up schools full of kids.
 
You are trying to tell us that if he manages to get himself suspended, it won't hurt the team? You are seriously trying to tell us that if one of those special interest groups takes an interest, that the media coverage that could go along with that, won't distract and as a result, hurt the team?

If you review this thread, you will see that it has been said that people who have a problem with this type of behavior are just jealous. Well, that's a bunch of BS. That's lazy evaluations from people who just don't want to accept realities.

Yeah, I guess we don't agree. That's cool.
Show me the post where I said or insinuated that if he got suspended it wouldn't hurt the team. As far as the other stupid questions that follow lets just keep it to stuff I actually posted not some made up in your head junk. As far as these groups they don't really care about people like Irving. They care about big names not people only football fans know about.

I agree with the people that say y'all are jealous and or people that get kicks by showing how much more moral you are than the next person. I'm sure they think y'all are being just as lazy to talk about some picture that hasn't made any national waves and doubt it will as this big distraction. It goes both ways. Yep we don't agree and of course its cool.
 
You know nothing.

You are in the same position as we all are as fans so don't pretend like you have some inside knowledge or sources.

How many millions has Rob Gronkowski cost himself when he does far worse?

Enlighten everyone to "far worse". I know Gronkowski hasn't already cost himself millions in the draft like Irving has, let's go from there.
 
Hello.

I don't think it potentially affects the Cowboys until it does. This is people for the most part being judgmental and putting their views on others as the only way to do things. If it is problematic as far as this being on the nfl radar ok I'll take back what I said. If not I stand by what I posted. If he gets disciplined y'all should be upset but it seems some people (yes I'm including you lol) want others punished because they live lives differently than them and hide by you know how Goddell does things. That is junk period. I think we will just have to agree to disagree but I'm always for a discussion of differences my man.
Haha...I know you are buddy and whether we agree or not I appreciate the fact you’re always respectful about it. I got some people coming over in awhile and it’s about beer:30 so I’ll let ya have this one ;)

Have a great weekend friend!
 
I don't really think that there is anything there, on this angle. I mean, Goodell could just take the position that the NFL is not trying to preside over what players do in their own bedrooms. The NFL could simply say that they are protecting the Image of the NFL. So long as you aren't posting things that are not against the guidelines of the NFL, your good.

I think that would work but I don't know, I'm not a Lawyer. I do, however, know this. To date, if Goodell wants to do it, it usually stands up.

He could, but there's a difference in benching a player who is accused of domestic abuse and one who brags about having sex with two women with his wife's consent. What is he "protecting the image of the NFL" from? Is he saying having sex with two women is inappropriate? Is he saying an NFL player on his own social media platform talking about having sex with two women is inappropriate?

I agree with what's being said about Goodell being able to do what he wants under the guise of conduct detrimental to the league, but he is driven in that regard by public opinion. If there's no public outcry about what Irving did, which isn't illegal, then why would he want to possibly incur a backlash?

I don't see it, but of course, many things that Goodell does don't make sense to me.
 

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