David Irving Instagram post

How do you know it was legal? Perhaps his wife bought him some high priced prostitute that she didn't know was part of a huge human trafficking ring. We don't know. She could just as well be their best friend swinging partner. Again, we don't know. But this brings me back to my original point. Bad judgement. Put it anyway you want, how many of these type distractions have helped this crappy franchise for the past 1/4 century remain crappy? Tooooo many. He's not good enough to be worth it.

how is it a distraction, it is the offseason
 
Even Goodie Goodell does not have the hubris to go after consensual 3 somes
I sure hope not. That's my concern. The team has already soured a bit on him, we know this from Stephen. I don't want Goodell casting his Eye of Sauron upon him now.
 
That's not the point either.

Here is a guy who rumors are out there that the Cowboys might consider letting him walk for a 2nd rounder. He's had other instances of alleged immaturity. Running to twitter or instagram to post a picture of you with two women you just had sex with doesn't dissuade the notion that you are immature. I can guarantee that once the team gets wind of this they won't be OK with it either. There's no doubt a conversation, even a brief one, will be had with Irving.

Actually yeah it is the point.

Posting pictures of beautiful women like you see in Maxim, in all kinds of music and entertainment acts and all kinds of openly available publications for all ages is not "immature." They are not that dissimilar than the cheerleaders in their short shorts and bikini tops much less the pole dancers Cowboys Stadium opened with.

I do think it is amusing that you think your puritan outlook and the acceptance of it is "maturity." This is not 1950.
 
No, I'm sure immorality is a positive for them...





If you think that's worse, then it's me who doesn't know what to say.

With all the problem this organization and team has......immorality sure doesn't seem to be at the top of the list.
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Or how about him with a lovely porn star online? These are the G rated photos by the way...not the ones with her wearing a thong.

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So you were saying?
 
With all the problem this organization and team has......immorality sure doesn't seem to be at the top of the list.
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Or how about him with a lovely porn star online? These are the G rated photos by the way...not the ones with her wearing a thong.

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So you were saying?

What are you debating here? The differences between two stupid decisions and which ones are worse?
 
What are you debating here? The differences between two stupid decisions and which ones are worse?

Are you really going to pretend that you started off with the moral relativism when you said:

"If you think that's worse, then it's me who doesn't know what to say."

The point being made here is that public partying and sexual promiscuity does not prevent elite play on the field. Gronkowski ahs been both more promiscuous and overt about it. He is the best at what he does.

So exactly what is the problem outside of puritans getting their panties in a bunch. Irving played extremely well last season don't you think?
 
Are you really going to pretend that you started off with the moral relativism when you said:

"If you think that's worse, then it's me who doesn't know what to say."

The point being made here is that public partying and sexual promiscuity does not prevent elite play on the field. Gronkowski ahs been both more promiscuous and overt about it. He is the best at what he does.

So exactly what is the problem outside of puritans getting their panties in a bunch. Irving played extremely well last season don't you think?
I'm glad I'm not in this particular debate. I have no moral high ground to stand upon.
Safely, anyways...
 
What are you debating here? The differences between two stupid decisions and which ones are worse?

Let me remind you what you said............


Enlighten everyone to "far worse". I know Gronkowski hasn't already cost himself millions in the draft like Irving has, let's go from there.


I "enlightened" you to how he's gone as far as to posting half naked pictures with porn stars yet, with Gronk its "Oh.....that's just Gronk being Gronk" but when Irving posts a picture implying he had a threesome with his wife or girlfriend.....its him "costing himself millions".
 
Are you really going to pretend that you started off with the moral relativism when you said:

"If you think that's worse, then it's me who doesn't know what to say."

The point being made here is that public partying and sexual promiscuity does not prevent elite play on the field. Gronkowski ahs been both more promiscuous and overt about it. He is the best at what he does.

So exactly what is the problem outside of puritans getting their panties in a bunch. Irving played extremely well last season don't you think?

Who's debating his on-field play?
 
Are you really going to pretend that you started off with the moral relativism when you said:

"If you think that's worse, then it's me who doesn't know what to say."

The point being made here is that public partying and sexual promiscuity does not prevent elite play on the field. Gronkowski ahs been both more promiscuous and overt about it. He is the best at what he does.

So exactly what is the problem outside of puritans getting their panties in a bunch. Irving played extremely well last season don't you think?


This is what Stash does. He asked me to enlighten him on what Gronk has done that's worse than Irving.....I tell him and he wants to pretend like he doesn't know what the debate or argument is here even though he's the one who started it?
 
Let me remind you what you said............





I "enlightened" you to how he's gone as far as to posting half naked pictures with porn stars yet, with Gronk its "Oh.....that's just Gronk being Gronk" but when Irving posts a picture implying he had a threesome with his wife or girlfriend.....its him "costing himself millions".

I'm not giving either one a pass. But yeah, let me know when Irving is a multi-time Pro Bowler and the best in the league at his position and then we can get on equal footing as far as what will or won't be tolerated in terms of negative behavior.

Apples and oranges.
 
Well, if he gets fined or suspended (and I say if because we really don't know if this will happen) then that will not actually take place until the new season. This will come back around.

I just don't see under any interpretation of Goodie's Good Conduct policy that he can do anything about consensual sex between adults. People are overreacting.
 
This is what Stash does. He asked me to enlighten him on what Gronk has done that's worse than Irving.....I tell him and he wants to pretend like he doesn't know what the debate or argument is here even though he's the one who started it?

Really? I started it now?
:huh:
 
I'm not giving either one a pass. But yeah, let me know when Irving is a multi-time Pro Bowler and the best in the league at his position and then we can get on equal footing as far as what will or won't be tolerated in terms of negative behavior.

Apples and oranges.

So now its ok to do these things just as long as you are a multi-time Pro Bowler. You just keep pushing the goal post back. What happened to issues with immorality and embarrassing this organization?
 

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