David Irving?

[xwalker]

Its not the interest genius, its the debt. You can keep pushing into the future, but eventually you still have to pay.

LOL.........oh yah, its a net gain. LOL Thats why we can never sign anyone. Yah, restructuring is good for the cap. ahahahahaha!!!!

Your knowledge of the cap is about par with your prognostication and your analysis of one Chaz Green.

Every year you tell us all the Cap is a myth. And every year we all laugh in your face when we sign bottom of the barrell FA's from other teams. Not even enough money to sign our own guys. Typically having to restructure just to fit them in. Oh yah, you are a cap genius.

The fact that you disagree is comforting.

If you agreed with me then I would question myself.

Go to bed. You have fries to cook tomorrow.

 

[AbeBeta]

Oh yah, you are another cap expert and we are all listening. LOL

And still the Cowboys sign no one of significance since 2012. Yet the cap is a myth and we can sign anyone we want anytime.

Sign no one of significance?

Travis Frederick. Tyron Smith. Heck, we just franchised on of the top FA on the market.

We retain the excellent players we draft.

All these shiny things you want, they are guys on the market because their teams don't want them.

One of the worst UFA classes we've seen in years, but you want signings for signing sake. And emojis. More dumb emojis

 

[GORICO]

The Cowboys clearing cap space is the same as if you have to move money from your savings account to your checking account before you write a check.

mr xwalker--true i just read a column where it says...man often the cap is a mirage...things can get moved around...yeah its not good to backload too much but lets do something to keep hitchens and Irving and get earl thomas...i iknow i am dreaming...but sometimes dreams come true?

 

[Verdict]

2.75 mill is a bit much. I expect we wanna lop a million of that

It's a third of what we are paying Witten.

 

[TheDude]

Wrong and terrible comparison.

Zero interest credit cards would not catch up to you. It's the interest that makes credit cards a problem.

There is zero interest in regards to the salary cap.

Restructures actually function the opposite of interest because the cap increases every year. Paying players in 2018 with 2021 cap dollars is a net gain.

Again, this is not a complete story. Typical owners will hold a GM accountable for getting an ROI on that cash. Most GMs cant just piss real money away and tell the owner "its free, dont *****." Dead money usually means the player(s) didnt perfom

 

[xwalker]

Again, this is not a complete story. Typical owners will hold a GM accountable for getting an ROI on that cash. Most GMs cant just piss real money away and tell the owner "its free, dont *****." Dead money usually means the player(s) didnt perfom

No, players can be great every year and there can still be dead-money attached to their name when they're gone.

Teams put dummy years on the end of contracts when restructuring a players contract to create cap space. When the player departs, the money prorated into those extra years becomes dead-money.

Real money is a separate issue. It does cost teams extra real money to give out a massive amount of restructure bonuses. It also requires the cash to be able to do it. As fans we don't care about something costing Jerry extra real money. It would not impact the cap even if Jerry had to borrow the money at 100% interest rate.

 

[TheDude]

No, players can be great every year and there can still be dead-money attached to their name when they're gone.

Teams put dummy years on the end of contracts when restructuring a players contract to create cap space. When the player departs, the money prorated into those extra years becomes dead-money.

Real money is a separate issue. It does cost teams extra real money to give out a massive amount of restructure bonuses. It also requires the cash to be able to do it. As fans we don't care about something costing Jerry extra real money. It would not impact the cap even if Jerry had to borrow the money at 100% interest rate.

That "extra money" is what costs people their jobs. That and the fact it is owner money illustrates why other teams dont max out restructures every year.

It is all a red herring, what you have laid out would then be a competitive advantage for Dallas, but they dont take advantage of it....and when they did, the results were also marginal

 

[xwalker]

That "extra money" is what costs people their jobs. That and the fact it is owner money illustrates why other teams dont max out restructures every year.

It is all a red herring, what you have laid out would then be a competitive advantage for Dallas, but they dont take advantage of it....and when they did, the results were also marginal

Jerry's theory for about 20 years was that he had an advantage because he could makes those moves without worrying about getting fired.

Spending the money was not why he failed. Spending money and/or draft picks on the wrong players is why he failed.

Regardless, the point still stands that there is no interest on cap dollars in terms of pushing cap money into the future.

Jerry has the real money so that aspect doesn't really factor into the equation when discussing the Cowboys cap.

 

[AbeBeta]

It's a third of what we are paying Witten.

Witten is due 5.75 mill.

Hanna hardly makes "a third" of what Witten does.

Why do folks on this board constantly throw out wrong information?

 

[blueblood70]

Next year is a contract year for Dak......shame on us if we not take advantage of his CHEAP contract. Time is running out...

not really i believe a 1st rounder has a 5th year TEAM option this is only his third year, we don't have to do anything until we know for sure..look what Washington did with cousins.. as of now the TEAM has the upper hand as Daks been up and down and until he stays up he wont be getting paid..why we have cap issues keeping your 800k QB longer will only help the team and motivate Dak..win win

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

If we tender him with a 2nd he’s gone IMO. This DL FA crop is weak. A team would gladly give a 2nd for his talent. He can be a pro bowl player.

 

[CowboyRoy]

The fact that you disagree is comforting.

If you agreed with me then I would question myself.

Go to bed. You have fries to cook tomorrow.

Oh yah, you were right on the money on that Chaz Green call. LOL

And you saw the kid play in college? How sad for you. What a judge of talent.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Sign no one of significance?

Travis Frederick. Tyron Smith. Heck, we just franchised on of the top FA on the market.

We retain the excellent players we draft.

All these shiny things you want, they are guys on the market because their teams don't want them.

One of the worst UFA classes we've seen in years, but you want signings for signing sake. And emojis. More dumb emojis

Signing your own FA's doensnt improve your team.

Signings for singings sake? Never said that buddy. Try to stay grounded in the conversation. We have signed no big name guys since 2012. Now Im not for spending wildly, but using it to fill proper holes if need be. We cant even do that. Its pathetic.

 

[waving monkey]

Nearly every RFA with substantial tenders got them today. Waiting until tomorrow isn't crazy.

For Scandrick we need to wait until Wed on, if he is going to have a June 1 designation.

Hanna may be open to a pay cut, so that's a good reason why height be sticking around

Educate yourself and you won't have to rant

your asking too much

 

[Alexander]

Still trying to grasp what on earth they are waiting around for.

Everyone else to spend all their money?

 

[cowboyec]

Still trying to grasp what on earth they are waiting around for.

Everyone else to spend all their money?

do you think its a trade?
otherwise,why wait.

 

[Alexander]

do you think its a trade?
otherwise,why wait.

It would be nice to think that, but knowing this franchise, we are still trying to figure things out.

This personnel acquisition stuff is really really hard.

 

[cowboyec]

It would be nice to think that, but knowing this franchise, we are still trying to figure things out.

This personnel acquisition stuff is really really hard.

like putting a man on neptune apparently.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Again, this is not a complete story. Typical owners will hold a GM accountable for getting an ROI on that cash. Most GMs cant just piss real money away and tell the owner "its free, dont *****." Dead money usually means the player(s) didnt perfom

Every team has to spend the same amount of money in a given period of time per the collective bargaining agreement. There is no such thing as saving money or overspending. The cap has a max and a minimum. You cannot go over it or under it. Owners could care less about dead money. They care about results. Dead money happens for all kinds of reason. In our case, Romo's retirement is the reason for most of our dead money, but It all worked out for us anyway b/c we have a QB making 600k a year. We pay very little for the QB position relative to the rest of the league even with Romo's dead money.

 

[TWOK11]

Embarrassing

The Cowboys could have $62 million in cap room tomorrow if they wanted to, and they'd only lose 3 players (none of which is valued on this board anyway). This isn't an issue.

The Cowboys structure contracts differently than almost any other franchise in pro football.