Day after thoughts- Retribution complete

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I too noticed the flagrant holding penalties that wasn't called against the Eagles. Yet, we were flagged for holding several times. I don't know what it is but I really think the league should look into these matters. I wish that Jones would make note of it also and at least bring it out into the open. Its getting to the point where refs won't call anything on the opposing team no matter how bad and everything on Dallas and thats how I particular saw these last two games against the Eagles.
 

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jchap;3216921 said:
We're going to Minnesota!!
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Can I come too?!
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Naw bro.
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No fair :'(
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Awesome.
 

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Sarge;3216924 said:
Nice post David. The loss of EJ Henderson has KILLED their defense. There will be some scoring in this one I do believe.

that's so true.

They haven't been the same since. Oh, and Favre's meltdown with Childress hasn't helped either.

I really like Dallas in this game.
 

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Chocolate Lab;3216715 said:
Nice post David...

And I'm generally not one to complain about the officials much, other than having some fun with it. But seriously, that last TD they scored was almost solely due to the zebras. Why did Hamlin get an unsportsmanlike conduct to offset Maclin's just because he put his face in Maclin's facemask? That happens all the time and it's not a penalty. Total BS.

Anyway, not to focus on that after such a great win. Just awesome, and we couldn't do it to a better team. Some people seem to love Andy Reid, but I'll never forget him running it up on those awful Campo teams.


Hey C-Lab,

On the Eagles scoring drive, what I could not believe was how a flag was not thrown on Celek when Jackson scored.

On the Cowboys first drive, Ogletree's WR screen was negated by an illegal block by Witten (and it was legitimate).

But where was the flag on Celek?

Martin3 and I went biserk on that.
 

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Was he blocking early, Manster?

I was telling my buddies during the game that I see people blocking early on those bubble screens all the time, but it never gets called. The Pats are the worst at that -- in 2007 especially they ran that play all the time and the blockers were hitting people before the catch was made, but I never saw PI called. Dunno why they suddenly saw Witten doing it. Maybe he was just way too early.
 

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Chocolate Lab;3217670 said:
Was he blocking early, Manster?

I was telling my buddies during the game that I see people blocking early on those bubble screens all the time, but it never gets called. The Pats are the worst at that -- in 2007 especially they ran that play all the time and the blockers were hitting people before the catch was made, but I never saw PI called. Dunno why they suddenly saw Witten doing it. Maybe he was just way too early.

It looked just like what Witten did.

They have to call it both ways. That is what got us mad.
 

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dbair1967;3216596 said:
Now with league's special pet Favre next up, I cant imagine how bad and one sided its gonna be. The word is out and its loud and clear, opposing OL can do whatever they want as often as they want, and it aint gonna be called.

I'm confused by this statement, could you elaborate on what you mean here?
 

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7) The NFL should be absolutely ashamed of that pathetic display of officiating yesterday. I sorta thought that at least since it was a playoff game, the phantom calls, ticky b/s and the need to effect what seemed like every play would be minimized, but I was wrong. That was utter garbage. If not for the officials the past two weeks, we might have hung close to 100 pts on the Eagles. Now with league's special pet Favre next up, I cant imagine how bad and one sided its gonna be. The word is out and its loud and clear, opposing OL can do whatever they want as often as they want, and it aint gonna be called. The incredible discrepency in holding calls is just a joke.

What calls do you have a problem with?
 

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dbair1967;3216596 said:
Yep, I'd say 58-14 in a span of 6 days more than erases the bad taste of 44-6. It wont make that game go away, but no longer do we have to hear about it incessently. We destroyed the Eagles twice in less than a week. Last week was pretty dominant, last night was just taking that sack of crap team from Philly to the woodshed. I hate their team. I hate their owner. I hate their fans. I hate their God-awful uniforms. Last night was sweet.

1) 6 times in 7 weeks now Romo has had a QB rating of at LEAST 104.0. His overall completion percentage in those 7 weeks is an incredible 67.4% He's thrown 2 picks in his last 255 attempts, and one of those was a lucky bounce. He is playing out of his head right now. He had two or three throws that werent great last night, but overall his command of the game, his accuracy and his level of overall play cannot be denied. He is definitely playing at a championship level.

2) 2008 first round. We land Felix Jones and Mike Jenkins. Both these guys are incredibly special players. Jones would have back to back games well over 100 yds if not for the officials stealing a 20+ yd run last week. And last night he was spectacular. Mike Jenkins learned a hard lesson about the lateral and he did let one td get by him, but the rest of his game was outstanding. He also hits people. Jones and the organization made a GREAT move to trade up and insure they got Jenkins last year.

3) Our OL basically ripped the Eagles a new one two weeks in a row. Knowing they had to do a better job vs the run than last week, I'm sure the Eagles spent all week making adjustments. Result- we rush for MORE yards. Mark Colombo got off to a slow start but as the game wore on he seemed to really get it going. I hope people will also realize how good Flozelle Adams has been. Trent Cole has been totally non existant these past two games, and Adams did it with little or no help.

4) According to Matt Mosley, the Eagles blitzed over 70% of the time last night. Yet our offense scored MORE points on them than they did a week ago. Jason Garrett is on a huge roll right now. The game plans have been flawless and the play calling has been outstanding. As Hos mentioned in his post, the way we are dominating time of possession is absolutely amazing. Last night 39:34, last week 40:23, Washington 35:02, New Orleans 36:26. And in each game over 30 rushing attempts.

5) Martellus Bennett has had a disappointing year stats wise. Probably 99% of people (including me) thought he'd be a huge factor in the passing game. He's been ragged all year. Some want him gone. But the guy blocks his tail off and on John Phillips TD, Bennett absolutely goes crazy celebrating with him. He hasnt let his lack of production get him down. He plays with fire. I still like this kid and think the sky is the limit for him. Maybe he does get traded in the offseason, but unless somebody offers a solid #1 pick for him, if I were Jones I'd hang up the phone. And by solid #1, I'm not talking about something late in the first round.

6) Ware and Spencer are as dominant of 3-4 OLB's as there has been since Pat Swilling & Ricky Jackson for the Saints in the late 80's/early 90's, and are approaching the levels of Taylor/Banks. These guys arnt one dimensional players either. Both are outstanding vs the run and both can play in coverage. Niether one of them can be blocked repeatedly with one guy.

7) The NFL should be absolutely ashamed of that pathetic display of officiating yesterday. I sorta thought that at least since it was a playoff game, the phantom calls, ticky b/s and the need to effect what seemed like every play would be minimized, but I was wrong. That was utter garbage. If not for the officials the past two weeks, we might have hung close to 100 pts on the Eagles. Now with league's special pet Favre next up, I cant imagine how bad and one sided its gonna be. The word is out and its loud and clear, opposing OL can do whatever they want as often as they want, and it aint gonna be called. The incredible discrepency in holding calls is just a joke.

8) Buehler and McBriar's impact on the game yesterday, and our season as a whole also cant be denied. Patrick Crayton is now a very solid punt returner. Our coverage units are excellent. The addition of Joe DeCamillis was genius. Give the man a raise.

9) Hats off to our secondary as a whole. Those who wanted Terence Newman gone, some crow is waiting for you. He's playing really well and with Jenkins and Scandrick, we have a trio of excellent cover guys. Ken Hamlin is playing his best football right now. Sensabaugh is doing well.

10) As for the Vikings game, its gonna be tough. They are a different team at home. They can score points via the pass or the run and unlike Philly, they can dink and dunk or go downfield. Can we stop the run with just our front 7? The upside is their defense can be had. Their secondary is weak and they dont force alot of turnovers. Block their front 4 and Romo could have a mega field day. Their run defense has really suffered since the loss of EJ Henderson. The other thing is their offensive tackles are turn stiles.

11) Finally for Wade, I was a huge doubter. I didnt think we could take the next step with him. I was wrong, the team seems to have taken the next step. These last 4 games are the best stretch we've had since the 91-95 Cowboys. The defensive game plans and play calling is superb. The team is playing with emotion. He said after last season he wanted to see us become a defensive oriented team that could run the ball and control the clock, and thats exactly what this team has become. Only we have the added bonus of having tremendous skill people who can still make explosive plays.

Nice read! :bow:
 

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Hoofbite;3217792 said:
What calls do you have a problem with?
And Ref Defender shows up right on cue.

Most people aren't necessarily upset on the calls against us (although some are quite ticky tack). Most people are upset about the inconsistency with which calls are made. No holding on the Eagles all game? Seriously?
 

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dbair1967;3216664 said:
Thats fine, you can not blame them if you choose. But I do. I watch too much football and see the vast difference in how certain things are called (or not called) when we're not involved.

The Eagles OL was totally overmatched in two straight games, and even with a replacement center and backup guard out there, they're OL wasnt flagged on a SINGLE play for holding. I'm sorry, but its a joke. Just like alot of the other crap they called or ignored.

Luckily it didnt cost us either game, but in a close game, it certainly could.
Agree.
I watched Ware do an inside move on Peters and Peters grabbed his foot as he was falling down...no penalty.
Hoculi may be a well known ref but that does not make him a good one.
 

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yimyammer;3217783 said:
I'm confused by this statement, could you elaborate on what you mean here?

I think its pretty obvious.

The opposing OL knows they can get away with murder holding out guys, and it wont be called.
 

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Originally Posted by dbair1967
Thats fine, you can not blame them if you choose. But I do. I watch too much football and see the vast difference in how certain things are called (or not called) when we're not involved.

The Eagles OL was totally overmatched in two straight games, and even with a replacement center and backup guard out there, they're OL wasnt flagged on a SINGLE play for holding. I'm sorry, but its a joke. Just like alot of the other crap they called or ignored.

Luckily it didnt cost us either game, but in a close game, it certainly could.
J-DOG;3217845 said:
Agree.
I watched Ware do an inside move on Peters and Peters grabbed his foot as he was falling down...no penalty.
Hoculi may be a well known ref but that does not make him a good one.
I don't understand how anyone can even argue against this. I know some folks here believe the penalties even out in the end, but the same simply CANNOT be said about offensive holding calls.
 

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Hoofbite;3217792 said:
What calls do you have a problem with?

A couple of calls...several non calls...the huge difference in the way OL penalties are called on us and totally disregarded when it comes to our opponent.

Its the inconsistency people.
 

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Chocolate Lab;3216715 said:
Nice post David...

And I'm generally not one to complain about the officials much, other than having some fun with it. But seriously, that last TD they scored was almost solely due to the zebras. Why did Hamlin get an unsportsmanlike conduct to offset Maclin's just because he put his face in Maclin's facemask? That happens all the time and it's not a penalty. Total BS.

Anyway, not to focus on that after such a great win. Just awesome, and we couldn't do it to a better team. Some people seem to love Andy Reid, but I'll never forget him running it up on those awful Campo teams.

Reid just loves to run up the score. The bigger the win, the better. Up by 40 points in the 4th quarter, keep throwing the ball deep. It's frickin bush league college football stuff to try and run up the scores like that in the NFL. it serves no purpose other than to get other team's to hate your guts. I agree - I can never stand looking at that stoic fat **** out there.
 

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dbair1967;3217891 said:
I think its pretty obvious.

The opposing OL knows they can get away with murder holding out guys, and it wont be called.

That's what I figured you meant, but when you referenced Favre and then said opposing offensive lines can do whatever they want, it read to me like you were saying the opponents of the Vikings offensive lines can do whatever they want, which is why I was confused because that wouldn't make sense (imo).
 
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