DB inexperience a major concern?

[BAZ]

It's not a major concern it's a minor one. But I really commend the front office for deciding the secondary were a problem and nearly completely retooling it. Good job by them.

 

[Setackin]

It's a legit question. I think joining a 13-3 offensive driven team will help. We're still a ball control team which will help the D. You can't protect everyone. Some of these kids will have to learn in the fire and sink or swim. It's a big boy league and our entire draft is mostly the product of power 5 schools. We have a strong coaching staff and veterans on either side of the ball to help out.

I'm just concerned with what happens when its 4mins left on the clock and NYG are down by 3... these thing could mean a playoff birth.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I think to an extent the depth chart beyond the top 2 wont be as relevant as usual. Particularly with the rookies. Awuzie and Lewis are two completely different CB's and would see snaps in different situations

 

[TheFinisher]

I'm just concerned with what happens when its 4mins left on the clock and NYG are down by 3... these thing could mean a playoff birth.

That's the beauty of Rod Marinelli's defense... it's as simple as they come. Line up and play. Hard.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

let me say this off the bat, I really like this draft.

How much will Dallas be hurt by inexperience?

Byron Jones (3rd year)
Anthony Brown (2nd year)
Kavon Frazier (2nd year)
Chidobe Awuzie (Rookie)
Jourdan Lewis (Rookie)
Xavier Woods (Rookie)
Marquez White (Rookie)


Only experienced players are OS (9 years) and Nolan Carroll (7 years) and we all know about OS injury history. Again I'm not complaining or anything just trying to see what the thinking with this is.

Are you serving breakfast cuz I'm luvin' it!

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

I'm just concerned with what happens when its 4mins left on the clock and NYG are down by 3... these thing could mean a playoff birth.

Something like a quick slant by Beckham and absolutely toasting Brandon Carr for an 80 yard score? I'm actually less concerned now. There's experience.. and there's experience that can really play. CB is largely instinctive and can be helped by coverage/scheme/pass rush. Our previous guys failed us too many times. I'd rather let quality, highly ranked, fast tough rookies at least learn.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Don't understand why some want Scandrick gone. At least we know Scandrick, when healthy (I know), can cover the slot. Our redzone d will be a major disappointment if we have to rely on rookies vs vet experience there. Scandrick should be much healthier this year compared to last. If White shows real promise in camp and preseason, then they won't put him on the ps, he'll be on the roster and prob Carroll gets the ax.

 

[drawandstrike]

OP left some people out of that list. We're going to have TONS of competition for the CB and SS/FS spots this year. Yes, some of these guys are getting cut. But the best 9-10 will make the squad.

Orlando Scandrick (9th year)
Nolan Carroll (8th year)
Jeff Heath (4th year)
Leon McFadden (3rd year)
Byron Jones (3rd year)
Anthony Brown (2nd year)
Sammy Seamster (2nd year)
Kavon Frazier (2nd year)
Chidobe Awuzie (Rookie)
Jourdan Lewis (Rookie)
Xavier Woods (Rookie)
Marquez White (Rookie)

 

[xwalker]

let me say this off the bat, I really like this draft.

How much will Dallas be hurt by inexperience?

Byron Jones (3rd year)
Anthony Brown (2nd year)
Kavon Frazier (2nd year)
Chidobe Awuzie (Rookie)
Jourdan Lewis (Rookie)
Xavier Woods (Rookie)
Marquez White (Rookie)


Only experienced players are OS (9 years) and Nolan Carroll (7 years) and we all know about OS injury history. Again I'm not complaining or anything just trying to see what the thinking with this is.

Brown is probably already way ahead of Claiborne mentally (HAha, Someone should tell Broaddus it's because Brown went to Purdue and Claiborne went to LSU).

Awuzie will likely be ahead of where Claiborne was by the time game 1 is here. IIRC he had a 34 wonderlic vs 6 for Claiborne.

Lewis, much like Awuzie, seems to have a high football IQ.

Byron Jones was already way ahead of Wilcox mentally (comparing to 2015 when Wilcox was the starting FS).

Heath will be in there and he's been here a few years now and I think his Dad is a football coach.

Who were the CBs for the Cowboys in 92? Larry Brown (91 12th round pick) and Kevin Smith (92 draft pick).

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Not really. The Cowboys gave up the 26th most pass yards in football last year with a bunch of vets. So they blew up the secondary.

I do see them keeping Orlando Scandrick and Nolan Carroll around just to help guide the kids, but the future looks bright.

But we were #1 in the redzone on the road, and around middle of the pack at home. That's were vet experience helps most times.

 

[waldoputty]

Brown is probably already way ahead of Claiborne mentally (HAha, Someone should tell Broaddus it's because Brown went to Purdue and Claiborne went to LSU).

Awuzie will likely be ahead of where Claiborne was by the time game 1 is here. IIRC he had a 34 wonderlic vs 6 for Claiborne.

Lewis, much like Awuzie, seems to have a high football IQ.

Byron Jones was already way ahead of Wilcox mentally (comparing to 2015 when Wilcox was the starting FS).

Heath will be in there and he's been here a few years now and I think his Dad is a football coach.

Who were the CBs for the Cowboys in 92? Larry Brown (91 12th round pick) and Kevin Smith (92 draft pick).

yeah totally agreed.
the concern is not the DBs, it is the passrush.
we got taco and he was only rated as a 2nd round pick.

in contrast we got Awuzie and lewis, both rated as 2nd round picks.
would much prefer nailing Willis at 60. Or Basham

 

[Setackin]

Something like a quick slant by Beckham and absolutely toasting Brandon Carr for an 80 yard score? I'm actually less concerned now. There's experience.. and there's experience that can really play. CB is largely instinctive and can be helped by coverage/scheme/pass rush. Our previous guys failed us too many times. I'd rather let quality, highly ranked, fast tough rookies at least learn.

Ok, so do you think the instincts of these player out weighs the experience of the others?

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

I remember Anthony Brown getting lost peeking in at Kirk Cousins and hesitating as D-Jackson ran a subtle hitch and blew by him for an 80 yard score. You live and you learn. He exceeded all of our expectations and made far too many plays to make up for it. We're greater than the sum of our parts. We really played to our strengths and as a team last year. Key injuries at various points of the season didn't slow us.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

There will be some growing pains. I knew it was too much to expect for the team to retain both Brandon Carr and Mo Claiborne, but I had hoped it would be possible to keep on of them, preferably Mo, but it wasn't meant to be. I have more confidence in this team's drafting than I've had in years. It will take some time for these rookies to gel, but I suspect they will.

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

Ok, so do you think the instincts of these player out weighs the experience of the others?

I just feel that it was calculated risk. Roster construction involves some calculated risk and youth (especially as it relates to a cap driven league) is a big part of this. It's all about player development and forward thinking. You must recognize when a veteran should be replaced before it becomes glaring.

 

[LocimusPrime]

OP left some people out of that list. We're going to have TONS of competition for the CB and SS/FS spots this year. Yes, some of these guys are getting cut. But the best 9-10 will make the squad.

Orlando Scandrick (9th year)
Nolan Carroll (8th year)
Jeff Heath (4th year)
Leon McFadden (3rd year)
Byron Jones (3rd year)
Anthony Brown (2nd year)
Sammy Seamster (2nd year)
Kavon Frazier (2nd year)
Chidobe Awuzie (Rookie)
Jourdan Lewis (Rookie)
Xavier Woods (Rookie)
Marquez White (Rookie)

Thanks for the updated list! I don't know if any of the rookies will even start on this team. Not by week 1 anyways.

 

[CATCH17]

Our defense is too simple and the DBs have pretty good talent.

It's not a big concern for me.

Carroll, Scandrick, and Brown can do a solid job if for some reason the young guys aren't ready.

 

[gimmesix]

let me say this off the bat, I really like this draft.

How much will Dallas be hurt by inexperience?

Byron Jones (3rd year)
Anthony Brown (2nd year)
Kavon Frazier (2nd year)
Chidobe Awuzie (Rookie)
Jourdan Lewis (Rookie)
Xavier Woods (Rookie)
Marquez White (Rookie)


Only experienced players are OS (9 years) and Nolan Carroll (7 years) and we all know about OS injury history. Again I'm not complaining or anything just trying to see what the thinking with this is.

We've got two very experienced vets in Scandrick and Carroll at corner. We added an experienced vet at safety and Heath has been around for several years now. I think we have a good mix of inexperienced and experienced players. To me, these older vets are the players the younger guys are going to have to prove they can beat to get playing time, and that's a good thing.

 

[Zman5]

OP left some people out of that list. We're going to have TONS of competition for the CB and SS/FS spots this year. Yes, some of these guys are getting cut. But the best 9-10 will make the squad.

Orlando Scandrick (9th year)
Nolan Carroll (8th year)
Jeff Heath (4th year)
Leon McFadden (3rd year)
Byron Jones (3rd year)
Anthony Brown (2nd year)
Sammy Seamster (2nd year)
Kavon Frazier (2nd year)
Chidobe Awuzie (Rookie)
Jourdan Lewis (Rookie)
Xavier Woods (Rookie)
Marquez White (Rookie)

You forgot Blanton (3rd year).

 

[thisiscowboyscountry]

let me say this off the bat, I really like this draft.

How much will Dallas be hurt by inexperience?

Byron Jones (3rd year)
Anthony Brown (2nd year)
Kavon Frazier (2nd year)
Chidobe Awuzie (Rookie)
Jourdan Lewis (Rookie)
Xavier Woods (Rookie)
Marquez White (Rookie)


Only experienced players are OS (9 years) and Nolan Carroll (7 years) and we all know about OS injury history. Again I'm not complaining or anything just trying to see what the thinking with this is.

Even the more experienced veterans didn't know where they were supposed to be when the game mattered most, so I am not too concerned. In a perfect world the veterans are playing more time at the start of the season with the rookies earning more playing time. I expect us to give up some big plays, but I think you'll also see more aggressive play that should lead to more turnovers.