DC.COM Blog: Canty is looking for $8mil per year... Joe Berger to sign w/Fins

[Signals]

God help us.

 

[Stash]

What does it say when the guy you traded for can't bust into the lineup for like, forever?

From what I saw, the guy played well when he finally got his chance.

So my question would be, what took so long for that chance?

 

[AbeBeta]

From what I saw, the guy played well when he finally got his chance.

So my question would be, what took so long for that chance?

I assume that our coaching staff thought he sucked in practice.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Someone will no doubt give Canty what he's wanting, or something very close to it, thankfully it's not going to be us. As much as I like him that's just too much for Chris.

 

[Stash]

I assume that our coaching staff thought he sucked in practice.

And I would assume that maybe our coaching staff 'sucks'.

The same staff that thinks Procter is worth anything.

The same staff that was responsible for Brad Johnson stealing $5 million when he couldn't play anymore.

The same staff that thinks that Free and McQuistan should stick around for no apparent reason.

That's where I place my blame.

 

[AbeBeta]

And I would assume that maybe our coaching staff 'sucks'.

The same staff that thinks Procter is worth anything.

The same staff that was responsible for Brad Johnson stealing $5 million when he couldn't play anymore.

The same staff that thinks that Free and McQuistan should stick around for no apparent reason.

That's where I place my blame.

Yawn.

Same old tired takes.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I assume that our coaching staff thought he sucked in practice.

it should be pretty clear to all that in order for a young guy to see time, vets have to be missing limbs

Wade didn't want to bench Brad Johnson
didn't want to play Choice
didn't want Spencer starting
didn't want Holland starting, if Holland was getting more reps and had more playing time, it's possible that he doesn't get hurt, and we have a fighting chance

 

[Stash]

Yawn.

Same old tired takes.

Hey.

Whatever.

I'm not asking you to agree with anything, I'm merely stating what my opinion is.

 

[Woods]

And I would assume that maybe our coaching staff 'sucks'.

The same staff that thinks Procter is worth anything.

The same staff that was responsible for Brad Johnson stealing $5 million when he couldn't play anymore.

The same staff that thinks that Free and McQuistan should stick around for no apparent reason.

That's where I place my blame.

I haven't given up on Free yet. We haven't really seen enough at this stage.

 

[Stash]

it should be pretty clear to all that in order for a young guy to see time, vets have to be missing limbs

Wade didn't want to bench Brad Johnson
didn't want to play Choice
didn't want Spencer starting
didn't want Holland starting, if Holland was getting more reps and had more playing time, it's possible that he doesn't get hurt, and we have a fighting chance

Shhhhhh..

Apparently this is some 'tired argument'.

Never mind that it's true.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Shhhhhh..

Apparently this is some 'tired argument'.

Never mind that it's true.

I forgot that they didn't want Scandrick or Jenkins starting too

 

[Stash]

I haven't given up on Free yet. We haven't really seen enough at this stage.

Yeah, but it doesn't instill much confidence when they'd rather trot a one-armed Flozell out there while Free is inactive.

Seems to me to be one of two things:

1) Free sucks

or

2) The coaching staff's evaluations do

Either one strikes me as bad.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Yeah, but it doesn't instill much confidence when they'd rather trot a one-armed Flozell out there while Free is inactive.

Seems to me to be one of two things:

1) Free sucks

or

2) The coaching staff's evaluations do

Either one strikes me as bad.

again, it goes back to the coaching staff's irrational fear of playing younger players

 

[adbutcher]

again, it goes back to the coaching staff's irrational fear of playing younger players

Most coaches have the same fear.

 

[Woods]

Yeah, but it doesn't instill much confidence when they'd rather trot a one-armed Flozell out there while Free is inactive.

Seems to me to be one of two things:

1) Free sucks

or

2) The coaching staff's evaluations do

Either one strikes me as bad.

There could be other reasons as well including,

(1) Flo thought he could gut it out - professional pride, and/or

(2) The coaching staff doesn't trust inexperienced players (as has been mentioned by other posters)

 

[Stash]

There could be other reasons as well including,

(1) Flo thought he could gut it out - professional pride, and/or

(2) The coaching staff doesn't trust inexperienced players (as has been mentioned by other posters)

If Flo said he could 'gut it out', that's fine. He could have been given the chance. But that doesn't explain for me why Free wasn't even activated just in case Flo was wrong.

As for not trusting 'inexperienced players', exactly when would an inexperienced player ever become an experienced player if you don't trust them at some point?

I think that's a part of the reason why almost every starter on this team is a big-money player and the Cowboys never seem to get a 'bargain' anywhere.

 

[AbeBeta]

it should be pretty clear to all that in order for a young guy to see time, vets have to be missing limbs

Wade didn't want to bench Brad Johnson
didn't want to play Choice
didn't want Spencer starting
didn't want Holland starting, if Holland was getting more reps and had more playing time, it's possible that he doesn't get hurt, and we have a fighting chance

Johnson? What young guy was behind him? Bollinger? That's some option.

Spencer didn't "start" but he for all intents and purposes took all of Ellis' snaps. Spencer didn't get the first play in the game but that was it.

Holland? Are you freaking serious? Holland is a young guy and Proctor a vet? Proctor had been in the league 3 years and was 25 at the start of last season. Holland was in the league 5 years and was 28 at the start of last season. Holland had 48 starts under his belt. Proctor had 2.

 

[Woods]

If Flo said he could 'gut it out', that's fine. He could have been given the chance. But that doesn't explain for me why Free wasn't even activated just in case Flo was wrong.

As for not trusting 'inexperienced players', exactly when would an inexperienced player ever become an experienced player if you don't trust them at some point?

I think that's a part of the reason why almost every starter on this team is a big-money player and the Cowboys never seem to get a 'bargain' anywhere.

I generally agree with you. We should have played guys like F Jones more early on, etc.

But with respect to Free, my only point is that I don't think any of us (casual fans) really know what we have in him.

I would assume this is a key off-season for D Free.

 

[Stash]

I generally agree with you. We should have played guys like F Jones more early on, etc.

But with respect to Free, my only point is that I don't think any of us (casual fans) really know what we have in him.

I would assume this is a key off-season for D Free.

No, your right, good or bad, we simply don't know.

I think my negative stance comes from the last great 'unknown' that this team drafted - before they took Free.

That James Marten guy.

And Jacob Rogers before him.

The team has built up some 'negative equity' with me regarding drafting and developing linemen.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Johnson? What young guy was behind him? Bollinger? That's some option.

still, Jerry had to force his hand

Spencer didn't "start" but he for all intents and purposes took all of Ellis' snaps. Spencer didn't get the first play in the game but that was it.

still

Holland? Are you freaking serious? Holland is a young guy and Proctor a vet? Proctor had been in the league 3 years and was 25 at the start of last season. Holland was in the league 5 years and was 28 at the start of last season. Holland had 48 starts under his belt. Proctor had 2.

for all intents and purposes, Proctor was more of a vet in Dallas than Holland was