DCN: Cowboys Camp Soap Opera

[visionary]

Same people making the same tired excuses for mediocrity and refusing to look at facts

17 years and 1 playoff win
24-24 in last 3 years with no playoff appearance in 4 years

Spineless jellyfish coaches like wade and Garrett

But no one is at fault

Ludicrous

 

[Cumart21]

So called drama is media fabrication. All teams go through the same nonsense. Only difference is the media always makes a story of the Cowboys non stories. Bring on the regular season because I couldn't be more tired of threads like this one.

 

[Doomsay]

Wade Phillips has never been offered a head coaching job in the NFL, except from Jerry. Same for Campo, and other than the ding-dong Bills, neither has Chan Gailey. Wade was just an interim guy when others were fired or had to leave for medical reasons. Jerry likes cheap no-names rather than high-dollar guys that he has to relinquish power to because of their contracts.

Other than the accidental serendipity of Jimmy and the need to secure a palace with Bill, when given the opportunity, Jerry has hired some of the most pathetic coaches of the past quarter century.

 

[KingLerxst]

The issue is, how many other GM's would hire JG? Right from the start? You have a guy that basically did nothing as the QB coach in Miami and you want to promote him to OC the likes of Romo, TO, Witten and co? I don't think so. I am sorry but anyone else out there would never have given JG his shot with the experience he had. You speak of Parcells saying differently from the fans...well, we will never know the truth because that could be he's got some class...and I don't even like Parcells...

http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***...ts-about-not-becoming-ravens-head-coach.html/
Ozzie Newsome is considered one of the top GM's out there. And we was ready to hire Jason.

 

[foofighters]

http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***...ts-about-not-becoming-ravens-head-coach.html/
Ozzie Newsome is considered one of the top GM's out there. And we was ready to hire Jason.

Go back and read what I wrote. I was speaking about when he was a QB coach for Miami. That year everybody thought he was the greatest thing ever until they figured out it was tony Sparano helping JG because after left, defenses had figured JG out. Nice try, though. Lol

 

[Zman5]

At least we're entertained.

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[KingLerxst]

Go back and read what I wrote. I was speaking about when he was a QB coach for Miami. That year everybody thought he was the greatest thing ever until they figured out it was tony Sparano helping JG because after left, defenses had figured JG out. Nice try, though. Lol

Not sure I understand your logic. Are you criticizing Jerry for hiring him as the offensive coordinator? If so. Why? He ended up having the number two ranked offense in Dallas in 2009. And the 8th ranked offense in 2010. How did Sparano help him with that? He was considered a HC candidate by Baltimore,Atlanta, the Lions, Broncos and Rams at different points. So more than just Jerry saw some kind of potential in him.

 

[visionary]

http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***...ts-about-not-becoming-ravens-head-coach.html/
Ozzie Newsome is considered one of the top GM's out there. And we was ready to hire Jason.

Ask him if he would hire Jason Garrett now and you are likely to get a very different answer

 

[foofighters]

Not sure I understand your logic. Are you criticizing Jerry for hiring him as the offensive coordinator? If so. Why? He ended up having the number two ranked offense in Dallas in 2009. And the 8th ranked offense in 2010. How did Sparano help him with that? He was considered a HC candidate by Baltimore,Atlanta, the Lions, Broncos and Rams at different points. So more than just Jerry saw some kind of potential in him.

Oh I see. We are going to go on stats. Yes we put up great stats until December and January came around (as a whole). And why? Our schedules were back loaded where we played better teams who knew how to beat us. And how was that? Load the box, jam the WR's and taunt Romo/JG into the long developing pass play that our O line could not hold. Continue your love of JG all you want.

 

[KingLerxst]

Oh I see. We are going to go on stats. Yes we put up great stats until December and January came around (as a whole). And why? Our schedules were back loaded where we played better teams who knew how to beat us. And how was that? Load the box, jam the WR's and taunt Romo/JG into the long developing pass play that our O line could not hold. Continue your love of JG all you want.

I'm not stating a love or hate for JG or Jerry. I was just making a counter point to your statement that no other GM would have hired him based on his experience. Which is wrong. If there were some willing to bring him aboard as a HC after only a year as Dallas' OC. You can bet there were other GM's that would have considered him for OC after his stint in Miami. But hey. Continue finding whatever way you can to criticize Jerry. Be it based in facts, or not.......

 

[Doomsay]

I'm not stating a love or hate for JG or Jerry. I was just making a counter point to your statement that no other GM would have hired him based on his experience. Which is wrong. If there were some willing to bring him aboard as a HC after only a year as Dallas' OC. You can bet there were other GM's that would have considered him for OC after his stint in Miami. But hey. Continue finding whatever way you can to criticize Jerry. Be it based in facts, or not.......

Was there any indication that other teams were looking to hire him out of Miami to be an OC? If so, was it anything other than a cursory glance? Garrett's sole credibility was and has been the interest that Baltimore and Atlanta paid him thanks to one great year of Tony, TO and Tony. The outsiders didn't know what Jerry knew and knows - that Jason was and is still is, a mistake prone coach in training. Garrett would have been immediately exposed for the inexperienced fraud that he was (is) and drummed out of either of those teams within no more than 2 seasons. We, on the other hand are enjoying 7 more years of his incompetence with no end in sight.

It was messed up from the beginning - Jason done nothing in his coaching career Garrett, for some reason was anointed by Jerry to be the next savior of the franchise while he was still a mediocre QB coach in Miami.

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has decided to hire Jason Garrett to at least be Dallas' offensive coordinator -- and possibly to be the successor to retired head coach Bill Parcells.


A source told ESPN's Ed Werder on Wednesday night that Jones considers Garrett, a former backup to quarterback Troy Aikman, to be one of the most promising offensive coaches in the league and was so determined to bring him back to the Cowboys organization that he would have been added to Parcells' staff had Parcells decided to coach the final year of his contract.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2741032

As Baltimore owner Bisciotti said regarding Jason's rejection of the HC position and returning to his OC position: "I thought that it was odd situation when I realized that I was competing against Jason doing nothing, I think that it was telling to me...I'm happy where I am, things happen for a reason."

 

[Chocolate Lab]

As Baltimore owner Bisciotti said regarding Jason's rejection of the HC position and returning to his OC position: "I thought that it was odd situation when I realized that I was competing against Jason doing nothing, I think that it was telling to me...I'm happy where I am, things happen for a reason."

Good clip... I watched this a couple of times and I have to admit I'm not sure what Bisciotti means when he says "competing against him doing nothing". What does he mean, going back to Dallas and staying OC (not being a HC)?

 

[KingLerxst]

Was there any indication that other teams were looking to hire him out of Miami to be an OC? If so, was it anything other than a cursory glance? Garrett's sole credibility was and has been the interest that Baltimore and Atlanta paid him thanks to one great year of Tony, TO and Tony. The outsiders didn't know what Jerry knew and knows - that Jason was and is still is, a mistake prone coach in training. Garrett would have been immediately exposed for the inexperienced fraud that he was (is) and drummed out of either of those teams within no more than 2 seasons. We, on the other hand are enjoying 7 more years of his incompetence with no end in sight.

It was messed up from the beginning - Jason done nothing in his coaching career Garrett, for some reason was anointed by Jerry to be the next savior of the franchise while he was still a mediocre QB coach in Miami.



http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2741032

As Baltimore owner Bisciotti said regarding Jason's rejection of the HC position and returning to his OC position: "I thought that it was odd situation when I realized that I was competing against Jason doing nothing, I think that it was telling to me...I'm happy where I am, things happen for a reason."

Actually. More than just Atlanta and Baltimore had shown interest in him. And obviously he was doing something right if quite a few folks with more football acumen than the average fan had him on their radar. And you can bet they were plenty smart enough to decipher whether his success was based solely on working with Romo and T.O. Call me crazy but I'm sure people that consider hiring someone for such an important role look at more than just one or two years worth of info.

It's debatable as to whether he would have been drummed out of either of those teams. As he would have been working with completely different front offices. And who knows what kind of success they may or may not have had.
And, While he certainly has his faults. And there are other coaches out there I'd take over him.He's not nearly as bad as folks such as yourself,would lead everyone to believe. I could point out numerous reasons why I think he could still turn out to be a very good HC in this league. Especially given the right circumstances. But it's obvious I'd be wasting both of our time trying to convince you of that. So I'll just end my responses to this thread here......

 

[Doomsay]

Good clip... I watched this a couple of times and I have to admit I'm not sure what Bisciotti means when he says "competing against him doing nothing". What does he mean, going back to Dallas and staying OC (not being a HC)?

Yes, I believe so. Bisciotti couldn't make a counter offer against a position Jason was never going to leave in the first place. Jason knew he wouldn't survive at that level in the real world where performance is measured. But by entertaining outside offers, he ensured that Jerry would be afraid to lose him to someone else. IMO, Jerry admitted to something along those lines at the end of last season.

 

[Bullflop]

Scandrick has unwittingly done something we can be sure he didn't want to happen. He's left the door wide open for Claiborne to come in and reclaim that outside CB spot. Whether or not he's able to manage it remains to be seen but you know Scandrick is kicking himself right about now for leaving himself so vulnerable. Soap opera is right -- be sure and tune in again tomorrow for more.

 

[erod]

http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***...ts-about-not-becoming-ravens-head-coach.html/
Ozzie Newsome is considered one of the top GM's out there. And we was ready to hire Jason.

So were the Falcons and Rams.

 

[foofighters]

I'm not stating a love or hate for JG or Jerry. I was just making a counter point to your statement that no other GM would have hired him based on his experience. Which is wrong. If there were some willing to bring him aboard as a HC after only a year as Dallas' OC. You can bet there were other GM's that would have considered him for OC after his stint in Miami. But hey. Continue finding whatever way you can to criticize Jerry. Be it based in facts, or not.......

or not...lulz. You're twisting the truth here. JG was the hottest thing ever that year. I won't deny that, however, that winter, the Cowboys fell flat in their face. He was highly sought after because of the high flying offense that was wonderful in October and November. The following year, the interest for him started to dwindle, and now for the last couple years, eventually he's on the hot seat (from the media) and the mediots are speculating what he needs to do to keep his job. Continue to find whatever way you can to love Jerry. Be it based of facts, or not...

...see what I did there?

 

[erod]

or not...lulz. You're twisting the truth here. JG was the hottest thing ever that year. I won't deny that, however, that winter, the Cowboys fell flat in their face. He was highly sought after because of the high flying offense that was wonderful in October and November. The following year, the interest for him started to dwindle, and now for the last couple years, eventually he's on the hot seat (from the media) and the mediots are speculating what he needs to do to keep his job. Continue to find whatever way you can to love Jerry. Be it based of facts, or not...

...see what I did there?

If he were fired, he'd get another shot after a year or two as an offensive coordinator. The league knows what he deals with, having Jerry hovering over his every move and grasping at every microphone. I'd bet the Giants would be VERY interested in him after Coughlin.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I'd bet the Giants would be VERY interested in him after Coughlin.

Please God, let this happen.

 

[Zman5]

If he were fired, he'd get another shot after a year or two as an offensive coordinator. The league knows what he deals with, having Jerry hovering over his every move and grasping at every microphone. I'd bet the Giants would be VERY interested in him after Coughlin.

If only this could happen. This could be our way of getting back at them for that cap violation incident.