Deep Passes Dak and Mahomes

[jwitten82]

Russel wilson
Mahomes
Watson


Outside of brady these are the best quarterbacks in the league. Deal with it.

Goff is better than Wilson and Watson

 

[Willfreedom909]

Goff is better than Wilson and Watson

No he's not. Not even close. Wilson Watson and Mahomes are the only youngish qbs with high IQ. They consistently pick apart defenses and corners like their ability to make beautiful back shoulder throw bombs for 40yds.

Goff can't hold any of their jockstrap if he had their offensive lines. He's a gimmick 1-2 read quarterback who without Todd Gurley taking a man off top would be trash.

 

[jwitten82]

No he's not. Not even close. Wilson Watson and Mahomes are the only youngish qbs with high IQ.

Goff can't hold any of their jockstrap if he had their offensive lines.

Mahomes is better but not the other two

 

[CowboyRoy]

So youre saying Dak and Mahomes are similar? Lol no way in hell Dak puts up 30+ plus consistently like Mahomes does

Really? How many points did the Cowboys average in Dak's rookie year? And that was with bad coaching, and worse pass catchers.

You think Mahones throws for 4 TD's per game with a good defense? He doesn't have to.

That being said I would take Mahones over Dak.

 

[CowboyRoy]

No he's not. Not even close. Wilson Watson and Mahomes are the only youngish qbs with high IQ. They consistently pick apart defenses and corners like their ability to make beautiful back shoulder throw bombs for 40yds.

Goff can't hold any of their jockstrap if he had their offensive lines. He's a gimmick 1-2 read quarterback who without Todd Gurley taking a man off top would be trash.

Mahones has arguably the best Oline in football. So does Goff. Both Houston and Seattle Olines have gotten much better then past years.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Also won a super bowl, but ok.

He did. Throwing for about 150 yards a game in the playoffs.

 

[Willfreedom909]

Watson is playing almost as bad as Dak.

I don't talk football with little kids.

To the ignore list you go.

You're a fool. Texans were protected to have 6 wins and yet Watson has them 1 single game from the #1 AFC seed. If he wasn't coming off his ACL tear he'd be throwing for 53 touchdowns just like he was on pace for his rookie year.

 

[stiletto]

You mean after he won a super bowl?

Wilson didn't win a Super Bowl. The Legion of Boom did. He DID lose one though by throwing an INT in the end zone against NE. That was HIS fault.

 

[Willfreedom909]

Mahones has arguably the best Oline in football. So does Goff. Both Houston and Seattle Olines have gotten much better then past years.

Texans are projected to win the #1 AFC seed now.

Watsons is a gamer in the spotlight:

record: 4-1
13 TDs - 1 INT
69.2% comp
8.4 yds/att
122.4 QB rating

I watched this man very well in college. Texans WILL make the superbowl if they get a first round bye. Watson in big games is truly something else.


Wilson needs no speaking for he's got statistics and actual wins that prove he's better than Brees and rodgers.
If the seahawks make the playoffs again their back in the NFC championship

 

[Willfreedom909]

Wilson didn't win a Super Bowl. The Legion of Boom did. He DID lose one though by throwing an INT in the end zone against NE. That was HIS fault.

Wilson didn't lose anything it was Pete Carroll. He wanted to audible to a run. Watch the Marshawn Lynch interview.

No quarterback has won more than Wilson in the NFC.

 

[bayeslife]

You mean after he won a super bowl?

Your initial statement was wrong sorry

 

[stiletto]

Wilson didn't lose anything it was Pete Carroll. He wanted to audible to a run. Watch the Marshawn Lynch interview.

No quarterback has won more than Wilson in the NFC.

Oh Pete Carroll threw the errant pass? OK...LOL

 

[Willfreedom909]

Oh Pete Carroll threw the errant pass? OK...LOL

No the throw was designed to go there. It was meant to be 1 read.

 

[InTheZone]

Horrible?

lol.

But this is the problem. Obvious slight exaggeration but people just see something they don't like and laugh instead of actually looking at what is the issue.

When looking at scores vs ints/fumbles he's 50/50, that's terrible especially when you play an ultra conservative pass game that revolves around check downs and Zeke carrying the offense.

He's getting sacked at a rate of 11%, that is God awful. I think that is league worst and a ton worse than Romo's worst year with no names/bums at every position minus rookie Tyron Smith who was playing right tackle that year. Again, considering we play to Daks limitations with short passes and Zeke carrying that number should be half or less, basically tops in league, not worst in league.

Teams fire coaches and bench qbs who have done more than Garrett and Dak, but these two get propped up for average or below average performances and get every excuse. Pathetic pass game struggles to put away the game against the Saints pathetic pass defense.

All I ever hear is OL, Moore, Linehan, #1 wr, developing yet half the arguments like to call out 2016 RotY. Beyond old and tiring. For once can a pro Daker say he's simply average and shows he may be able to progress into something more, but clearly hasn't gotten there or has already reached his ceiling.

 

[stiletto]

No the throw was designed to go there. It was meant to be 1 read.

Wilson THREW THE FOOTBALL to a defender. End of story. His fault too...he's not a robot just programmed to do what the coach says. He can make a choice. He failed and lost the Super Bowl. Blame the coach all you want but Wilson threw the pass pal.

 

[jwitten82]

Really? How many points did the Cowboys average in Dak's rookie year? And that was with bad coaching, and worse pass catchers.

You think Mahones throws for 4 TD's per game with a good defense? He doesn't have to.

That being said I would take Mahones over Dak.

Bad coaching and worse pass catchers in 2016?.... Look, Dak is in his 3rd season and hasnt thrown for at 30 td passes once...hell hasnt even thrown for over 25td passes once, thats rediculous in todays league.

 

[jnday]

I saw Mahomes over-throw a wide open receiver by 5 yards.

The receiver (TE) was on the right sideline similar to the Gallup play but the KC TE was even more open.

QBs do miss deep passes...

Yes, QBs do miss deep passes. Dak’s accuracy on passes of 10+ yards is worse than most. None of them are perfect , but some are closer to being perfect than most. His accuracy problems are bad, but his habit of holding on to the ball too long due to poor pocket awareness is even worse.

 

[blueblood70]

YESSSSS for the 100th time we know other QBs throw bad passes, take sacks and fumble BUT,

Dak has little room for error because he and this offense play close to the vest games that come down to the last drive every dang it seems..no room for error hes not throwing 40 passed 3 td a game and can score at will..when he makes these mistakes its magnified..it is what it is those big time qbs make up for their mistakes with big time stats.

sure Mahomes lost that Rams game with 5 turnovers but they still put up 51? lost by 3? yes we get it Dak is not alone , ive seen more of those from AR this year as well..

we as fans watching every snap realize that every mistake could cost us the game not just a drive..our playing style calls for nearly perfection, cant miss any scoring opportunity..

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

I saw Mahomes over-throw a wide open receiver by 5 yards.

The receiver (TE) was on the right sideline similar to the Gallup play but the KC TE was even more open.

QBs do miss deep passes...

He also threw 4 td passes. In his first year starting. There is no legit comparison between the two. Mahomes is way better.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

I mean seriously. Mahomes has 41 td passes, compared to 14. Yes, more weapons and better play calling...but put down the crack pipe when trying to put Dak on the same level.