Defense Don't Win Championships In Todays NFL

[MountaineerCowboy]

At the end of the day it's an offensive game, and in todays NFL, a great offense usually beats a great defense.

This isn't the 90s or early 2000's anymore where you could win with great defensive play. You're not allowed to play defense the same way anymore and the game has been geared more towards the offensive side of the ball while more rules have been put in place that make playing defense harder.

These defenses were #1 and #2 in the NFL in sacks and both teams put up at least 30 points.

Jalen Hurts accounted for 4 TDs while Mahomes won the Super Bowl MVP and played lights out. It's a QB game now more so than it's ever been. As Warren Sapp said recently "You train to be within 1 score at the end of the game now and you let your 100 million dollar QB take you home". That's exactly what we saw last night.

A good defense is a great thing to have, but if you don't have the offense then you don't have anything.

 

[john van brocklin]

At the end of the day it's an offensive game, and in todays NFL, a great offense usually beats a great defense.

This isn't the 90s or early 2000's anymore where you could win with great defensive play. You're not allowed to play defense the same way anymore and the game has been geared more towards the offensive side of the ball while more rules have been put in place that make playing defense harder.

These defenses were #1 and #2 in the NFL in sacks and both teams put up at least 30 points.

Jalen Hurts accounted for 4 TDs while Mahomes won the Super Bowl MVP and played lights out. It's a QB game now more so than it's ever been. As Warren Sapp said recently "You train to be within 1 score at the end of the game now and you let your 100 million dollar QB take you home". That's exactly what we saw last night.

A good defense is a great thing to have, but if you don't have the offense then you don't have anything.

Hard to argue with you after last nights game.
Unfortunity, we dont have a QB that can take us home consistently.

 

[gtb1943]

Hard to argue with you after last nights game.
Unfortunity, we dont have a QB that can take us home consistently.

arguably the critical plays in that game were defensive ones so frankly your case is weak

 

[nightrain]

Having an elite QB and elite play caller makes the game easier. Teams like the Cowboys have to be more conventional and win on fundamentals, if possible.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Having an elite QB and elite play caller makes the game easier. Teams like the Cowboys have to be more conventional and win on fundamentals, if possible.

It's not.

You have to have a QB that you can count on in games like last night.

The Cowboys don't.

How many times in 7 years has Dak lead the Cowboys back after being down 10 points?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

At the end of the day it's an offensive game, and in todays NFL, a great offense usually beats a great defense.

This isn't the 90s or early 2000's anymore where you could win with great defensive play. You're not allowed to play defense the same way anymore and the game has been geared more towards the offensive side of the ball while more rules have been put in place that make playing defense harder.

These defenses were #1 and #2 in the NFL in sacks and both teams put up at least 30 points.

Jalen Hurts accounted for 4 TDs while Mahomes won the Super Bowl MVP and played lights out. It's a QB game now more so than it's ever been. As Warren Sapp said recently "You train to be within 1 score at the end of the game now and you let your 100 million dollar QB take you home". That's exactly what we saw last night.

A good defense is a great thing to have, but if you don't have the offense then you don't have anything.

hmm, 23-20 was score of last year's game. 31-9 the year before. and Patriots won it 13-3 and denver beat carolina 24-10

but I got ya. its the flavor of they year and you fair weather fans tend to be like smoke and blow with the wind.

last year, building a team like the Rams was all the rage. trade everything. who cares about draft picks. and this year, its all about how eagles built it.. and now its offensive game that's most important, dang the defense.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

At the end of the day it's an offensive game, and in todays NFL, a great offense usually beats a great defense.

This isn't the 90s or early 2000's anymore where you could win with great defensive play. You're not allowed to play defense the same way anymore and the game has been geared more towards the offensive side of the ball while more rules have been put in place that make playing defense harder.

These defenses were #1 and #2 in the NFL in sacks and both teams put up at least 30 points.

Jalen Hurts accounted for 4 TDs while Mahomes won the Super Bowl MVP and played lights out. It's a QB game now more so than it's ever been. As Warren Sapp said recently "You train to be within 1 score at the end of the game now and you let your 100 million dollar QB take you home". That's exactly what we saw last night.

A good defense is a great thing to have, but if you don't have the offense then you don't have anything.

The Chiefs offline was the diff in this one!

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

hmm, 23-20 was score of last year's game. 31-9 the year before. and Patriots won it 13-3 and denver beat carolina 24-10

but I got ya. its the flavor of they year and you fair weather fans tend to be like smoke and blow with the wind.

last year, building a team like the Rams was all the rage. trade everything. who cares about draft picks. and this year, its all about how eagles built it.. and now its offensive game that's most important, dang the defense.

By offensive game I really mean QB.

I shouldn't be so nice about it.

 

[john van brocklin]

Having an elite QB and elite play caller makes the game easier. Teams like the Cowboys have to be more conventional and win on fundamentals, if possible.

We are not too sound on the fundamentals unfortunitly..
Our teams play with very little football IQ's.

 

[Ken]

At the end of the day it's an offensive game, and in todays NFL, a great offense usually beats a great defense.

This isn't the 90s or early 2000's anymore where you could win with great defensive play. You're not allowed to play defense the same way anymore and the game has been geared more towards the offensive side of the ball while more rules have been put in place that make playing defense harder.

These defenses were #1 and #2 in the NFL in sacks and both teams put up at least 30 points.

Jalen Hurts accounted for 4 TDs while Mahomes won the Super Bowl MVP and played lights out. It's a QB game now more so than it's ever been. As Warren Sapp said recently "You train to be within 1 score at the end of the game now and you let your 100 million dollar QB take you home". That's exactly what we saw last night.

A good defense is a great thing to have, but if you don't have the offense then you don't have anything.

Sacks are important....if you can stop the pass. The Eagles couldn't stop the pass against QBs who could actually throw the ball.

It was their Achilles heal and I said it before the game even started. Purdy would have torn them up too if he didn't get hurt on the first drive of the game.

KC has a mid tier defense going against a stacked offense...never a good combo but they did enough to win.

 

[Asklesko]

If a stout defense had won last night, you would be saying the opposite

 

[Ken]

It's not.

You have to have a QB that you can count on in games like last night.

The Cowboys don't.

How many times in 7 years has Dak lead the Cowboys back after being down 10 points?

He did it twice in this game...

 

[kskboys]

At the end of the day it's an offensive game, and in todays NFL, a great offense usually beats a great defense.

This isn't the 90s or early 2000's anymore where you could win with great defensive play. You're not allowed to play defense the same way anymore and the game has been geared more towards the offensive side of the ball while more rules have been put in place that make playing defense harder.

These defenses were #1 and #2 in the NFL in sacks and both teams put up at least 30 points.

Jalen Hurts accounted for 4 TDs while Mahomes won the Super Bowl MVP and played lights out. It's a QB game now more so than it's ever been. As Warren Sapp said recently "You train to be within 1 score at the end of the game now and you let your 100 million dollar QB take you home". That's exactly what we saw last night.

A good defense is a great thing to have, but if you don't have the offense then you don't have anything.

KC got to the super bowl due to a great D performance vs Cincy.

Sorry, Mountain, weak argument.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

He did it twice in this game...

Okay.

So 1 is the answer?

 

[Reid1boys]

At the end of the day it's an offensive game, and in todays NFL, a great offense usually beats a great defense.

This isn't the 90s or early 2000's anymore where you could win with great defensive play. You're not allowed to play defense the same way anymore and the game has been geared more towards the offensive side of the ball while more rules have been put in place that make playing defense harder.

These defenses were #1 and #2 in the NFL in sacks and both teams put up at least 30 points.

Jalen Hurts accounted for 4 TDs while Mahomes won the Super Bowl MVP and played lights out. It's a QB game now more so than it's ever been. As Warren Sapp said recently "You train to be within 1 score at the end of the game now and you let your 100 million dollar QB take you home". That's exactly what we saw last night.

A good defense is a great thing to have, but if you don't have the offense then you don't have anything.

and in 2 or 3 years a team will play a great defensive game and then people will say see, see... I told you defense wins championships.

FACT as I have been saying for a decade AND GET REGULARLY BLASTED FOR IN HERE....ELITE QBs win championships. Are there exceptions? Sure, but what was the MVP voting this year? I honestly dnt know, but Hurts had to be second behind Mahomes.

You better have elite or you are just praying that everything goes perfect for you. Unfortunately for us, Mahomes is the next Brady.... get ready for another decade of Chefs SB appearances..... I mean, cmon, Andy Reid is clearly the best coach ..... since Billy Boy lost Brady.

 

[foofighters]

arguably the critical plays in that game were defensive ones so frankly your case is weak

Or mistakes made by the offense that resulted in plays the defense capitalized on...

 

[Ken]

Okay.

So 1 is the answer?

I know it was only the last time we played the Super Bowl Eagles and all...but it was relevant.

You probably need to just accept that your team lost yesterday and stop trying to deflect to something else.

No one is fooled.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

KC got to the super bowl due to a great D performance vs Cincy.

Sorry, Mountain, weak argument.

Mahomes threw for 330 yards and 2 TDs in the AFC Championship.....

 

[Reid1boys]

KC got to the super bowl due to a great D performance vs Cincy.

Sorry, Mountain, weak argument.

WEak?? That defense didnt do squat yesterday except for pick up a ball hurts just dropped on his own and run it back 30 yards. The Iggles walked up and down on him. Of course every team is going to have a game here or there that was very good defensively....... and just as soon as they do that, they get stomped on. The one consistent, is the great QB.

 

[75boyz]

I believe CATCH17 made a similar post in the past touting a defense that was just good enough to go along in support of a QB who, if he possessed the talent, could get things done if not all personnel positions were pro bowl caliber.
Don't have that in Dallas.
Last night was a very good Eagles defense but a QB and playcaller that were just one step ahead it seemed.

For my opinion it's easy.
Dak can't beat 4 straight playoff opponents regardless of coach, scheme or personnel support.
He is an extremely poor decision maker with the ball in his hands especially in big games.
No amount of coaching, scheme or personnel support can overcome that.

Definition of a team held hostage by QB purgatory.