Defense Wins Championships

[Woods]

I'm not so sure that our Front seven is great. I'd like to see more from the other OLB spot, yeah Ellis did get sacks, but I'd like to see constant pressure from that front 7, something I've not seen since the Haley days here in Dallas.

Our front 7 is good enough.

We get pressure, sacks, and we can stop the run.

We need to make more plays on the ball (i.e., SD), tackle more consistently, and get more depth in the secondary, esp at CB.

 

[Clove]

As evidence with NYFG, when you have a 1st class front line, doesn't matter much who's in the secondary.

Our focus should go on putting pressure on ALL quarterbacks, no matter the cost.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Dallas lost to the Giants.

Giants won the Super Bowl.

I give the edge to the Giants defense when it counted.

It counted the entire year.

I'm not taking anything away from the G-Men and their defense. But to say that they have a defense and Dallas doesn't is just false.

If Crayton and Fasano don't drop those two passes, the G-Men don't win the Super Bowl. And they have nothing to do with defense.




YAKUZA

 

[SDogo]

Hmm.

Dallas allowed less points than the G-Men this year.

Dallas had a lower QB rating allowed than the G-Men this year.

Dallas allowed less yards per pass attempt than the G-Men this year.

Dallas gave up fewer passing TD's than the G-Men this year.

Dallas had more INT's that the G-Men this year.

Dallas allowed less rushing yards per game than the G-Men this year.



The only major categories that the G-Men were better at were sacks (which Dallas still had a lot of them) and rushing yards allowed per carry (4.0 vs. 3.8).




YAKUZA

Just curious because I have no idea what they were but what were the stat comparison for the playoff game?

 

[SDogo]

It counted the entire year.

I'm not taking anything away from the G-Men and their defense. But to say that they have a defense and Dallas doesn't is just false.

If Crayton and Fasano don't drop those two passes, the G-Men don't win the Super Bowl. And they have nothing to do with defense.




YAKUZA

That drive at half sure did and how quick everyone forgets that. IMO that was the turning point before Crayton ever had a chance to drop a pass.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

You stat guys have been saying the same stuff all year. You can take your stats and put them in the garbage along with our season.

Giants beat the best offense in the history of the game. The Cowboys defense got lit up.

Allowing 230 yards is getting "lit up?"

Congrats to the G-Men, but overall they didn't have a better defense than the Cowboys this year.




YAKUZA

 

[Clove]

Our front 7 is good enough.

We get pressure, sacks, and we can stop the run.

We need to make more plays on the ball (i.e., SD), tackle more consistently, and get more depth in the secondary, esp at CB.

Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but they certainly weren't consistant last year. Yeah, we got sacks, yada yada yada, but we can't generate CONSTANT PRESSURE. Constant means, every down your QB is in trouble if they don't either mass protect, or throw it quickly.

Every down in that 4th quarter the NYG were in Romo's face. I've not seen us do that to maybe a couple of teams this.

Untouchables on that front 7 to me are Ware and Ratliff.

 

[Oh_Canada]

As evidence with NYFG, when you have a 1st class front line, doesn't matter much who's in the secondary.

Our focus should go on putting pressure on ALL quarterbacks, no matter the cost.

I agree 100%...I really think we need more pressure and more aggressiveness out of the scheme.....I mean the Giants called a blitz with 35 seconds left and TOM BRADY throwing the football, I guarantee Stewart/Wade would have had our guys playing fifteen yards off the ball and rushed three guys.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

That drive at half sure did and how quick everyone forgets that. IMO that was the turning point before Crayton ever had a chance to drop a pass.

That ties up the game before the half. Certainly it was a big deal, but if Crayton and Fasano catch those two passes in the second half, the game is likely over.

It's not the Dallas defense as a hole, it's that sometimes you're only as good as your weakest player on the field. In Dallas' case that weakest player was Jacques Reeves. And on that drive the G-Men got 67 yards picking on Reeves.



YAKUZA

 

[skinsscalper]

Anybody think Steve Spagnulo should be the highest paid assistant in the NFL?

He'll be a head coach by the end of the week.

 

[Woods]

Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but they certainly weren't consistant last year. Yeah, we got sacks, yada yada yada, but we can't generate CONSTANT PRESSURE. Constant means, every down your QB is in trouble if they don't either mass protect, or throw it quickly.

Every down in that 4th quarter the NYG were in Romo's face. I've not seen us do that to maybe a couple of teams this.

Untouchables on that front 7 to me are Ware and Ratliff.

Sure, if we can upgrade the front 7 let's do it. But, IMO, the BIGGER problem is in the secondary.

I really think our front 7 is good enough to win a Super Bowl with. A good offense can attack our Secondary multiple ways.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but they certainly weren't consistant last year. Yeah, we got sacks, yada yada yada, but we can't generate CONSTANT PRESSURE. Constant means, every down your QB is in trouble if they don't either mass protect, or throw it quickly.

Every down in that 4th quarter the NYG were in Romo's face. I've not seen us do that to maybe a couple of teams this.

Untouchables on that front 7 to me are Ware and Ratliff.

The Giants didn't get constant pressure on Brady either. There were plenty of downs where Brady had all day to throw. That's the norm for the NFL. And watching a lot of the teams play against the Dallas defense they either made sure to max protect or go to 3 step drops to handle the Dallas pressure.

Claiming Dallas couldn't get good pressure on the QB this year is just plain false.




YAKUZA

 

[Sandman52]

So true! Ironic that the weakest link of our team is supposed to be guided by our defensive genious head coach.

Well, it's not that ironic when you look at some recent head coaches:

Billick's "genius" never provided the Ravens with an explosive offense.

Marvin couldn't contain any opposing offense in Cincy.

Cam couldn't put up the points in Miami (altho, to his credit, he hardly had a full deck).

But I share your pain also. I wanted Wade over Norv because of his defensive prowess. To me, this season is the same with Norv. Maybe he stacks the deck for his defensive staff to balance his offensive aptitude.

 

[burmafrd]

Its also that the Giants did not play 5 yds off of the recievers either, whether they were blitzing or not. THAT was our big weakness- we gave too much of a cushion.