Defensive film review

[juck]

PASS DEFENSE
Henry: 6-for-6, 123 yards, one TD
Reeves: 8-for-13, 72 yards, one TD, one INT, two other PD

Might Reeves be Henry's replacement sometime during the season once Newman comes back?

yes please.henry sucks but would be a great SS.

 

[theogt]

I dunno. To me, this is just as much an indictment of the front seven.

Any QB in the league will pick apart a secondary if given time to throw.

I was much more bothered the lack of pressure on Manning.

The blitz timing was awful. They got next to no pressure when rushing without a blitz.

An awful performance all ways round.

Agreed, but this stems more of the "he was the worst pass defender" notion.

 

[Juke99]

Agreed, but this stems more of the "he was the worst pass defender" notion.

Yep...but that's like asking, who was the worst swimmer on the Titanic?:

 

[Kangaroo]

I'm more shocked that someone has the time and energy to review film when he is not being paid to do so.

I did it for the oline a few years back; dvr plus pen and paper are your friend. I would but I did not record the game last night. I will this next game so I can rewatch it and break it down if I have time.

 

[dbair1967]

Williams: 5-for-8, 50 yards, one TD, one PD

Roy: 1 miss, 2 yards

wait this cant possibly be right...Roy was personally responsible for every completion given up and all the tds....I'm pretty sure he missed all the tackles that led to big chunks of yards too

at least thats what alot of folks here in the Zone would have us to believe

David

 

[Juke99]

wait this cant possibly be right...Roy was personally responsible for every completion given up and all the tds....I'm pretty sure he missed all the tackles that led to big chunks of yards too

at least thats what alot of folks here in the Zone would have us to believe

David

You're being very sarcastic. We expect better of you.
























No we don't.

 

[CowboyJeff]

But wait a minute....isn't the departure of that failure Parcells supposed to help the players play up to their potential????? Be careful what you wish for..... As parcells said last week with Babe Laufenberg: There isnt a dime's big of difference between his 3-4 and Wade's 3-4. Looks like once again Big Bill is right.

 

[jimmy40]

Some stats from my film review of the game. (Anyone else is welcome to do the same and provide their own stats. I have each play marked, so we can compare notes, if needed.)

PASS DEFENSE
Henry: 6-for-6, 123 yards, one TD
Reeves: 8-for-13, 72 yards, one TD, one INT, two other PD
Williams: 5-for-8, 50 yards, one TD, one PD
Hamlin: 1-for-2, 9 yards, one PD

Watkins: 1-for-1, 14 yards
Jones: 1-for-1, 8 yards

James: 1-for-1, 9 yards
Ayodele: 1-for-1, 7 yards
Ware: 0-for-1

dumpoffs/screens: 6-for-8, 36 yards, one TD
arm hit while throwing: 0-for-1


MISSED TACKLES
Hamlin: 4 misses, 46 extra yards allowed
Spears: 2 misses, 14 yards
Hatcher: 2 misses, 12 yards
Roy: 1 miss, 2 yards
Reeves: 1 miss, 1 yard

Coach's film or NBC's?

 

[jimmy40]

Roy: 1 miss, 2 yards

Statistically, getting run the **** over is not a miss. Right?

 

[Juke99]

But wait a minute....isn't the departure of that failure Parcells supposed to help the players play up to their potential????? Be careful what you wish for..... As parcells said last week with Babe Laufenberg: There isnt a dime's big of difference between his 3-4 and Wade's 3-4. Looks like once again Big Bill is right.

Can we give a bit more time than one game?

Can we consider within the context of this game that we were missing Newman...and then Ferguson? (and Ellis)

Geezlouise.

 

[theogt]

But wait a minute....isn't the departure of that failure Parcells supposed to help the players play up to their potential????? Be careful what you wish for..... As parcells said last week with Babe Laufenberg: There isnt a dime's big of difference between his 3-4 and Wade's 3-4. Looks like once again Big Bill is right.

Anyone who watched that game and thinks there's not a dime's worth of difference between the two defenses is either blind or stupid.

Now will it make the defense better? That's to be seen.

 

[superpunk]

Can we give a bit more time than one game?

Can we consider within the context of this game that we were missing Newman...and then Ferguson? (and Ellis)

Geezlouise.

What a novel idea.

Where was that mantra when the raucous celebration of parcells and Zimmers departure? Where was that mantra when everyone creamed over Spears and co. talking about how terribly they had been held back, and how they were about to be unleashed? Did it show up, or were there hordes of people saying "Oh, it must be so, simply because the evil old man is gone" as many others tried to preach "wait and see", outlining that it's the same players executing (or not, in many cases)?

People prematurely declaring Wade a failure is no more or less stupid than all the geniuses who got wood at the prospect of being coached by "Not Parcells", and demanded the rest of us recognize how much better we would be simply by getting his outdated *** out of here.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Anyone who watched that game and thinks there's not a dime's worth of difference between the two defenses is either blind or stupid.

Now will it make the defense better? That's to be seen.

There may be a difference in the two schemes, but it's still the same players. And I know I saw some things that surely reminded me of last year.

Same **** different day.

 

[bbgun]

Anyone who watched that game and thinks there's not a dime's worth of difference between the two defenses is either blind or stupid.

Now will it make the defense better? That's to be seen.

Correct. This year's incarnation is much worse. Good going, eagle eye.

 

[AdamJT13]

I am curious to see how you analyzed their first TD to Burress. I am at work so I can't go over the play again, but it looked to me like Henry had Burress, possibly thought he had deep cover but Hamlin had gone up to cover Shockey. Roy was on the defensive left and just ran into the play near the end, so it was all Henry.

From all appearances, we were in Cover 4. Roy's first responsibility was the inside man going vertical. But he stayed in to block, which made Roy go to his second responsibility, which is helping Reeves over the top -- which he did on Toomer running a deep in.

On the other side, Hamlin had Shockey running a flag and Burress running a post against Henry. He went to cover Shockey, which left Henry 1-on-1. When Manning threw the ball, Burress was still on the offense's left side of the field, not far from Hamlin, who was running toward the outside as Burress was going inside.

After the play, on the sideline, Hamlin was pointing at himself and talking to Henry and Stewart, who was holding pictures of the play. Either Hamlin was supposed to leave Henry 1-on-1 (which can happen in Cover 4), or he shouldn't have committed to Shockey so soon. Either way, I don't see any posssible way Roy was responsible for the outside receiver on the other side of the field when he had the outside receiver on his side of the field coming right at him.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

There may be a difference in the two schemes, but it's still the same players. And I know I saw some things that surely reminded me of last year.

Same **** different day.

same here, I saw Dlinemen getting stumped at the point of attack, same as last year

I remember someone showed some clips awhile ago, think it was Tek2000, of Wade's Charger's D last year, and alot of the times it was just Castillo and Olhansky beating their guys one-on-one at the point, you can only mask a player's weaknesses so much, at one point these guys are going to have to beat their blockers

 

[theogt]

Correct. This year's incarnation is much worse. Good going, eagle eye.

I shudder at the thought of what would have transpired last season without Newman.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I shudder at the thought of what would have transpired last season without Newman.

I shudder thinking of what would have transpired w/ Newman, if this were last year

 

[theogt]

I shudder thinking of what would have transpired w/ Newman, if this were last year

I'm really trying my best to figure out what you're saying here.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I'm really trying my best to figure out what you're saying here.

I'm just using what you said to say that w/ or w/o Newman, we would be pretty bad on D if this were Parcells' version of the 3-4, w/ some of our starters *cough* Spears *cough* Canty