Defensive film review

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Where does one obtain game film?

I'd like to see the category "yds given up by being ran over by RB", or better yet, "yds allowed from point of contact while being steamrolled by TE".

Anyone?
 

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WoodysGirl;1636215 said:
There may be a difference in the two schemes, but it's still the same players. And I know I saw some things that surely reminded me of last year.

Same **** different day.

actually it wasnt the same players...

David
 

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AdamJT13;1635851 said:
Some stats from my film review of the game. (Anyone else is welcome to do the same and provide their own stats. I have each play marked, so we can compare notes, if needed.)

PASS DEFENSE
Henry: 6-for-6, 123 yards, one TD
Reeves: 8-for-13, 72 yards, one TD, one INT, two other PD
Williams: 5-for-8, 50 yards, one TD, one PD
Hamlin: 1-for-2, 9 yards, one PD

Watkins: 1-for-1, 14 yards
Jones: 1-for-1, 8 yards

James: 1-for-1, 9 yards
Ayodele: 1-for-1, 7 yards
Ware: 0-for-1

dumpoffs/screens: 6-for-8, 36 yards, one TD
arm hit while throwing: 0-for-1


MISSED TACKLES

Hamlin: 4 misses, 46 extra yards allowed
Spears: 2 misses, 14 yards
Hatcher: 2 misses, 12 yards
Roy: 1 miss, 2 yards
Reeves: 1 miss, 1 yard

Overall Reeves didn't play too poorly. 8-13 for 72, with a TD allowed, but a INT and a PD (they had to settle for a FG right?), is about as good as you can expect from a 3rd corner forced into starting. Henry on the other hand was worse than Reeves :eek:. Williams was being his usual self, imo the TD was preventable (this is the one where he was supposed to help but was out of position right?), but it's hard to say I'm suprised.

It's hard to say Hamlin was solid in coverege. He only allowed one completion, but with everyone else open, why test him? But 4 tackles which accounted for 46 yards is unacceptable. If he's not gonna tackle, then we might as well let Watkins start
 

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theogt;1636074 said:

Yes, we do. I talked to Henry last night. I queried him as to why he sucked to high heaven. Needless to say, I woke up in intensive care this morning.;)
 

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but hamlin had some serious tackles ...he may have missed a few but he had so many chances because our front 7 wasnt taking care of business! hamlin is a stud!
 

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STSINAZ;1636515 said:
but hamlin had some serious tackles ...he may have missed a few but he had so many chances because our front 7 wasnt taking care of business! hamlin is a stud!

it may end up that way, but I didnt see anything from him last night that made me think of Cliff Harris or even JamesWashington/Thomas Everett

David
 

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Adam, thanks so much for these stats. I really appreciate it. I wish more people would take a look at these things.

The defense - all of them - have work to do. Maybe it's just easier to pick on one guy though.
 

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on plaxico's last td, Roy did screw up. he only had 10 yards to work with and he was not supposed to let plaxico get behind him. he came in and allowed plaxico to get behind and blew it.

that clearly was a play where the corner released to the safety.
 

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I can definitely see a difference in last year's defense. I thought at times the pressure was quite good, at other times not so much. Thing is when the QB throws on time it takes quite a pass rush to get to him. You have to make the QB hold the ball a little and our secondary didn't do that. We have to get better and we have to get Newman back, but I blame the secondary more than the front seven.
 

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I recall when we played SD in 2005 Parcells was asked if the Chargers 3-4 was the same as the Cowboys 3-4 and he said it was different. Maybe he's changed his mind.
 

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Ozzu;1635878 said:
Ouch. Henry. So Hamlin didn't get thrown at much, but missed a ton of tackles. Roy got thrown at more, but wasn't HORRIBLE and seemed to tackle well only missing the one. Interesting.

Even though Roy should have probably been in better position to stop that Burres TD in the red zone, I think you have to faul Reeves too for giving him such an easy release inside. If he slows up Burres a bit, Roy is in the right spot.
 

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dboyz;1636642 said:
I recall when we played SD in 2005 Parcells was asked if the Chargers 3-4 was the same as the Cowboys 3-4 and he said it was different. Maybe he's changed his mind.

Yes and no.

Here's the clip from the recap.


Their 3-4 same as yours?
No, they offset it some. Play a few more shades. Wade has made some changes. The fundamentals of the same.

Does that help your offense?
In some cases it does, we practice against the same look. It’s the players playing in those looks that make it effective.
 

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AdamJT13;1635851 said:
Reeves: 8-for-13, 72 yards, one TD, one INT, two other PD

I just noticed a mistake in these stats. When I counted up the catches he allowed, I must have counted the 9-yarder twice (it was to Burress in the fourth quarter).

Reeves' actual number should be 7-for-13, 63 yards, one TD, one INT and two other PD. And yes, I did still have him for 13 attempts, not 12.
 

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AdamJT13;1636995 said:
I just noticed a mistake in these stats. When I counted up the catches he allowed, I must have counted the 9-yarder twice (it was to Burress in the fourth quarter).

Reeves' actual number should be 7-for-13, 63 yards, one TD, one INT and two other PD. And yes, I did still have him for 13 attempts, not 12.

Which would be a QB rating of 61 or thereabouts which is good for him and bad for the QB.
 

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Looking at these numbers again, if this continues, I'd rather have Reeves in there than Henry. Looks like Henry is really struggling.
 

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jumanji;1636634 said:
on plaxico's last td, Roy did screw up. he only had 10 yards to work with and he was not supposed to let plaxico get behind him. he came in and allowed plaxico to get behind and blew it.

that clearly was a play where the corner released to the safety.

The truth is, no one but the players and the coaches really know for sure who was responsible for the blown TD.

While Reeves definately appeared to release him to the safety, we do not know if that was the correct move. As we do not know what the actual defensive call was.

The numbers are good to look at to give a basic idea of how players played. But, without know the actual defensive call, and what each players responsibilities are in each situation, no one can know for sure.
 

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AdamJT13;1635851 said:
Some stats from my film review of the game. (Anyone else is welcome to do the same and provide their own stats. I have each play marked, so we can compare notes, if needed.)

PASS DEFENSE
Henry: 6-for-6, 123 yards, one TD
Reeves: 8-for-13, 72 yards, one TD, one INT, two other PD
Williams: 5-for-8, 50 yards, one TD, one PD
Hamlin: 1-for-2, 9 yards, one PD

Watkins: 1-for-1, 14 yards
Jones: 1-for-1, 8 yards

James: 1-for-1, 9 yards
Ayodele: 1-for-1, 7 yards
Ware: 0-for-1

dumpoffs/screens: 6-for-8, 36 yards, one TD
arm hit while throwing: 0-for-1


MISSED TACKLES

Hamlin: 4 misses, 46 extra yards allowed
Spears: 2 misses, 14 yards
Hatcher: 2 misses, 12 yards
Roy: 1 miss, 2 yards
Reeves: 1 miss, 1 yard
nice research as always.

I think the first td pass has to go on a safety though.
Wade said in his presser we didn't play any man coverage and we came out in a safe zone and still got hit for a yarder which should never happen.

If we are gonna play a safe zone over the top I wish we'd get a bump on the Wr at the LOS.
 

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dbair1967;1636288 said:
actually it wasnt the same players...

David

I believe WG is referring to the torched backsides of Henry and RW which is repetitive and costly.
 
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