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With Marenelli supposedly retiring after this season. And Kris Richard on board now. And many including myself think he can be the next DC.

Will they gear the draft toward a defensive style he likes, though they are supposed to be similar already, From comments made a few years back, that Marenelli wanted to be like a Seattle style D.

So does Richard have an influence on the draft geared to more his style, or do they give it one more go with Rod's way. Can Richard influence them to get a true 1 Tech high in the draft.
 
jazzcat22 said:
With Marenelli supposedly retiring after this season. And Kris Richard on board now. And many including myself think he can be the next DC.

Will they gear the draft toward a defensive style he likes, though they are supposed to be similar already, From comments made a few years back, that Marenelli wanted to be like a Seattle style D.

So does Richard have an influence on the draft geared to more his style, or do they give it one more go with Rod's way. Can Richard influence them to get a true 1 Tech high in the draft.
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I see Marinelli retiring at the end of this season. Richard as a possible DC. Hope he has some input in the draft
 
conner01 said:
Very similar system
The only thing that I could see changing is one may value a 1 tech as a pure run stopper more
Rod doesn’t value a pure run stuffer Chris may but not sure
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And to me that has been a huge flaw and mistake with Marinelli. This is where Garrett, or McClay or someone needs to say enough is enough, we are taking a 1-tech at #19 if one is there.

If this is is last season as they said, I am more than ready he goes. :laugh:
Of course if we win the SB, I will say, great, he left the D in great shape for Richard to be even better. :muttley:
 
jazzcat22 said:
With Marenelli supposedly retiring after this season. And Kris Richard on board now. And many including myself think he can be the next DC.

Will they gear the draft toward a defensive style he likes, though they are supposed to be similar already, From comments made a few years back, that Marenelli wanted to be like a Seattle style D.

So does Richard have an influence on the draft geared to more his style, or do they give it one more go with Rod's way. Can Richard influence them to get a true 1 Tech high in the draft.
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Still think Dallas goes WR or OL in draft in 1st round. May move down before doing it and then trade 2nd to get back in bootom of 1st or top of 2nd to get a WR and OL.
 
Hennessy_King said:
I just want us to have an aggressive defense. Not a lets watch the player make a play then tackle him defense. Our team every season in one of the lowest in takeaways and even with more pressure on the qb last season we were bottom 5 in ints.
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yeah, I agree Hennessey. I was looking at stats on the 70's defenses and 90's. The biggest difference isn't number of sacks (of course sacks weren't official until the tail end of the Doomsday defenses) but what stood out to me was take aways. interceptions, fumble recoveries. Not sure how you teach that, after all CB's are just WR's who never excelled at WR yet we expect them to catch the ball when it's in their head lights. When the ball is on the ground it seems like it's charged and repelled by our guys. It's pretty sad when Barry Church or Jeff Heath are your turn over machines. Do we just draft ball hawk secondary players? I've often read that more pressure on the QB results in poor throws and take aways. I see very little proof of that recently. Conversely I've read that good coverage makes the QB hold the ball longer and leads to more sacks and pressure. Maybe we just have to go with the latter and hope the turn overs come. We do seem snake bit when it comes to interceptions and fumble recoveries.
 
Our defense does a good job of looking to strip the ball. I can see that's being coached up. Maybe should just stand our DB's 5 feet in front of the juggs machine and make it open season. No pads or helmets. If they miss the catch, they lose an eye, a tooth, a broken nose or have the nose of the ball permanently imprinted on their chest. What do ya'll think of that strategy for ensuring turn-overs:laugh:
 
northerncowboynation said:
Our defense does a good job of looking to strip the ball. I can see that's being coached up. Maybe should just stand our DB's 5 feet in front of the juggs machine and make it open season. No pads or helmets. If they miss the catch, they lose an eye, a tooth, a broken nose or have the nose of the ball permanently imprinted on their chest. What do ya'll think of that strategy for ensuring turn-overs
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I think the scheme does not allow it. They are taught to watch players make the catch then tackle. We only get ints when qbs make a bad throw.
 
Blitz, keep blitzing, blitz again, blitz some more! Make ours the Legion of Boom!
 
jazzcat22 said:
With Marenelli supposedly retiring after this season. And Kris Richard on board now. And many including myself think he can be the next DC.

Will they gear the draft toward a defensive style he likes, though they are supposed to be similar already, From comments made a few years back, that Marenelli wanted to be like a Seattle style D.

So does Richard have an influence on the draft geared to more his style, or do they give it one more go with Rod's way. Can Richard influence them to get a true 1 Tech high in the draft.
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I feel that what they absolutely should do is to give Richard more of a voice. If, in fact he is being viewed as the defensive coordinator in waiting.

What I do know is that since Marinelli has one foot out the door already - and would have stepped aside for Eberfleus - he should NOT have a seat at the table or a voice in this draft.
 
jazzcat22 said:
And to me that has been a huge flaw and mistake with Marinelli. This is where Garrett, or McClay or someone needs to say enough is enough, we are taking a 1-tech at #19 if one is there.

If this is is last season as they said, I am more than ready he goes. :laugh:
Of course if we win the SB, I will say, great, he left the D in great shape for Richard to be even better. :muttley:
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Who said this is his last season? There was talk of him giving way for Eberflus, but since we lost him have the Cowboys announced Rod has only one more year? If so, I missed it.
 
If they are truly looking to go to a Seattle type of scheme, then they are short multiple players. What they are missing are:
  • OLBs who can drop in coverage - Lee is capable, but there's no one else. Besides, this defense is way too reliant on Lee's presence to cover for others incompetence.
  • An "elephant" type of pass rusher - in other words, a combo SLB/WDE type of rusher that can play either standing up or in a three point stance to attack from either end of the line. Bill McPherson developed this role when he ran the defense for Bill Walsh in SF. In Seattle, they had Chris Clemons, Bruce Irvin and Cliff Avril fill this role. Dallas does not have a guy who can rush from a standup position.
  • A true single high safety candidate. This is as big of a hole in this defense as the OLB/MLB positional depth.
  • A 1T who can push the pocket on passing downs as well as hold the point against a double team.
This is why it's imperative that they address defense early and often this draft. It has been broken for way too long.
 
jazzcat22 said:
With Marenelli supposedly retiring after this season. And Kris Richard on board now. And many including myself think he can be the next DC.

Will they gear the draft toward a defensive style he likes, though they are supposed to be similar already, From comments made a few years back, that Marenelli wanted to be like a Seattle style D.

So does Richard have an influence on the draft geared to more his style, or do they give it one more go with Rod's way. Can Richard influence them to get a true 1 Tech high in the draft.
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Only Jerry knows the answer to that.
 
jazzcat22 said:
With Marenelli supposedly retiring after this season. And Kris Richard on board now. And many including myself think he can be the next DC.

Will they gear the draft toward a defensive style he likes, though they are supposed to be similar already, From comments made a few years back, that Marenelli wanted to be like a Seattle style D.

So does Richard have an influence on the draft geared to more his style, or do they give it one more go with Rod's way. Can Richard influence them to get a true 1 Tech high in the draft.
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Not a big Marinelli fan.

The Richards hire was awesome.

There is hope.
 
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