Deion Sanders: Cowboys were 'way off' in evaluating Roy Williams

[superpunk]

Deion just complimented Garrett. Man the lifeboats.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Deion usually states some ridiculous things, but I don't see where he was way off base with anything in this particular article.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Who gives a **** about his thoughts on this team, he's an idiot when it comes to these things.

Really? He seems bang on with his assessment of RW to me.

 

[Hoofbite]

For anyone who actually wants to hear this, I'm pretty sure DC posted the audio the other day.

The whole "not even when I roll outta bed" line had me cracking up.

And I really don't think Deion is saying a whole lot that people could be pissed about.

 

[pgreptom]

I respect Deion, but I disagree totally on T-New. When healthy, Newman is a top 10 CB in the NFL. I thought his play this year was incredibly underrated and was a major factor in the Boys #2 defense rating.

Go figure someone with a picture of Newman would say this.

Jenkins is a top-10 CB in this league. Newman is no longer a Top 10 corner.. maybe Top 30.

 

[visionary]

RW isn't playing like a good 2 much less a 1.

TNew isn't as good as he once was.

There were offensive problems last year.

I don't always like Deion's style and I certainly don't agree with everything he says. I wouldn't say things like Deion either. He's right this time.

Absolutely agree, I dont like Deion but cant disagree wth what he says here

RW is nowhere near a number 1 receiver, JJ overpaid (both picks and money)

T New is living off his past, once again JJ overpaid. Please dont take this to mean that i am saying that T New is a bad corner, he is pretty good but not great by any means.

 

[Alexander]

Deion usually states some ridiculous things, but I don't see where he was way off base with anything in this particular article.

Nor do I.

I am certain Mayhew was indeed foot clapping with what he received in trade for Roy Williams. As for Newman, he did look a little off last season and that could indeed be a confidence issue. I don't think he has been the same since the Pittsburgh game last season when Phillips took a shot at him. He is probably accurate about Garrett as well, despite what consensus opinion is around here.

 

[tomson75]

Go figure someone with a picture of Newman would say this.

Jenkins is a top-10 CB in this league. Newman is no longer a Top 10 corner.. maybe Top 30.

lmao....care to share any other gems from the back of the short bus?

 

[zrinkill]

Where's the part about Deion being "way off" in evaluating Miles Austin?

 

[Hook'em#11]

Absolutely agree, I dont like Deion but cant disagree wth what he says here

RW is nowhere near a number 1 receiver, JJ overpaid (both picks and money)

T New is living off his past, once again JJ overpaid. Please dont take this to mean that i am saying that T New is a bad corner, he is pretty good but not great by any means.

Gotta go with Sanders on this assessment of RW as well. Dallas needs to take the bite at the ego and put RW in the slot at times see what comes of it. Course, gotta get the boy some new hands as well.

And Newman has never been a great CB. He has been a solid CB but father time is approaching.

 

[Doomsday101]

I do agree that there are certain routs that RW has done better at than others. I think Dallas should look at more post and skinny post routs as well as crossing patterns with RW as opposed to comeback routs

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

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Deion Sanders: Cowboys were 'way off' in evaluating Roy Williams
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Deion Sanders spoke last week to ESPN Radio about the Cowboys. Some highlights:

On whether Cowboys' wide receiver Roy Williams' playing time will be based on merit or the size of his contract: "Well, it's gonna be merit. I mean, it's gonna be tough to justify Roy being out there and not producing. Roy can produce; he can produce in specified situations. Roy's not the kinda guy that's gonna run certain routes; any routes that he has to run that causes him to stop his feet and start back again, that's not his specialty. The slants, the quick-nines, routes like that, the crossing routes - he's gonna do that well. But, the routes running 15, digging in, coming back out, 15, digging in, running the end route; that's kinda tough 'cuz he's a big fella."

On whether Roy Williams could get open on Deion, who's been out of the league four or five years: "Nah, not even when I roll outta bed for breakfast (laughter). Roy can play, but he's never gonna be what you guys expect him to be because of the circumstances, you know, givin' away first-round picks and the type of contract stipulations; that's kinda tough, especially with the emergence of Austin, man."

On how far off the Cowboys were in evaluating Roy Williams: "Way off. I know Martin Mayhew, who played the other cornerback at Florida State when I played . . . he's the GM at the Detroit Lions (Williams' former team), he was clapping with his feet when they (the Cowboys) called (laughter); and that's kinda hard unless you're limber. But he was clapping with his feet when the Cowboys called to acquire Roy Williams."

On the Cowboys' offense:"Because the offense was pretty darned good last year. We critique, critiqued them because we have so many expectations of that offense, but, in all fairness, Jason Garrett did a pretty good job. There were a few games we just saw them crumble in the end, and we weren't happy about that, especially with the type of players that they have."

On the play of the Cowboys cornerbacks: "T-New (Terence Newman) has got to get his confidence back. He does. I'm not saying he's scared; I don't believe he's scared. He's never scared. But he has to play with that swagger that he once played. I know. I was on that island longer than Gilligan. (laughter) T-New is not playing with his swagger. Now, the next progression with Mike Jenkins, now, he has to go to the next level; and I think he's capable of doing it, but it's gonna come a lot of study and preparation. . . I'm telling you, in this league, you need five corners, man, because you're not gonna make it throughout a whole season with all your corners healthy. Therefore, you need five corners to be balanced, to have the type of secondary that you need, and a good ball-hawking safety in centerfield."

Transcribed by Thomas Washburn, special contributor to the Dallas Morning News

actually the cowboys scout team had advised against trading for RW, but Jerry being the fantasy football league owner that he was traded for RW thinking with him and TO they offense would be unstoppable. yet he was wrong again, thinking the same thing when he signed Joey Galloway. that's his lack of football understanding about double teaming and how an offense works.

but since then it seems that Jerry has woken up a bit. his draft was better. his off season signings were better and it seems to have woken something up in him that I haven't seen in jerry forever. he may have grown up right in front of our eyes. it was a big slap in his face and he wasn't happy about it. maybe he has finally gotten smarter.

 

[Vtwin]

Add me to the "can't stand Deon but he's right this time" crowd.

Who here wouldn't trade RW right now for the same deal we gave up for him?

Who here wouldn't be clapping with their feet, their hands and any thing else they could get to swinging and banging if that happened?

T-New isn't the best corner on the field anymore. He knows that and he knows he is getting older and his best days are likely behind him. That has to have an affect on his psyche.

Not saying he is done but it is reasonable to think his confidence took a hit. It's also reasonable to think he can work it out and finish his career in a strong manner.

 

[DFWJC]

I hear some comments from some of you, but I really didn't see Sanders bashing anyone. And he seemed to pretty much nail every single point...though none of them required a rocket scientist to address.

1) Did we pay too much for RW? yes,absolutely...check

2) Can RW still contibute well in certain situations? yes...check

3) Was the offense good, but could have been better in certain situations? yes..check

4) Is T-New a good corner who still has a chance to recapture greatness? maybe yes...check

5) Can Jenkins go to the next level and truly be great if he works hard? yes...check

6) With the way teams throw now in this league, do you need several good corners to compete? certainly yes...check


It looks like he nailed every single point. What did he miss?

 

[tomson75]

Add me to the "can't stand Deon but he's right this time" crowd.

Who here wouldn't trade RW right now for the same deal we gave up for him?

Who here wouldn't be clapping with their feet, their hands and any thing else they could get to swinging and banging if that happened?

T-New isn't the best corner on the field anymore. He knows that and he knows he is getting older and his best days are likely behind him. That has to have an affect on his psyche.

Not saying he is done but it is reasonable to think his confidence took a hit. It's also reasonable to think he can work it out and finish his career in a strong manner.

Honestly....I'd trade him for a lot less.

As far as Newman, that's a reasonable look. He wasn't the player he once was last year, but he's still a top level corner. Probably top 15 in the league still. I'll never understand the undeserved hate he gets. The guy plays one of the hardest positions on the field, and at a high level for several years. He makes a few mistakes and gets dinged a few times after several years of being one of the best in the game...and wham....the know-nothings come hollering with their two cent wisdom on why he sucks, and that they knew it all along....only he doesn't, and they didn't....so they basically just look stupid.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

Deion may be "right" but the only reason he takes a shot at Roy every chance he gets is because his boy TO was sent packing. I don't recall all this negativity about Roy when TO was still around. As soon as Jerry released TO, Deion started his attacks.

 

[DFWJC]

remember when Deion predicted Dallas wasnt gonna win more than 7 games last offseason...yeahhhhh....deion...

I don't remember that...I recall Emmitt saying that. I thought Deion said 9-10 wins.....could be wrong though.

 

[skinsscalper]

actually the cowboys scout team had advised against trading for RW, but Jerry being the fantasy football league owner that he was traded for RW thinking with him and TO they offense would be unstoppable. yet he was wrong again, thinking the same thing when he signed Joey Galloway. that's his lack of football understanding about double teaming and how an offense works.

but since then it seems that Jerry has woken up a bit. his draft was better. his off season signings were better and it seems to have woken something up in him that I haven't seen in jerry forever. he may have grown up right in front of our eyes. it was a big slap in his face and he wasn't happy about it. maybe he has finally gotten smarter.

To be fair, the biggest problem with the Galloway trade was what he gave up for him. He didn't overestimate his talent. The whole deal blew up in our faces when Galloway was injured in his first game as a Cowboy. Add that to the plethora of problems at the QB position (a declining Aikman and nothing short of a sick joke behind him) and the Galloway trade was a bust. But, it had very little to do with Galloway's talent (as was exhibited when he went on to play VERY well for the Bucs in the twilight of his career).

Roy is a completely different story. But that whole scenario has been gone over a billion times. Nothing to add there.

 

[DFWJC]

Honestly....I'd trade him for a lot less.
.

I'm maybe one of the few that actually likes Roy okay. I do think we got fleeced in the trade, but I think RW does have some talent and I find myslef feeling bad for him sometimes. I know...weak, right?

Would I trade him for what we paid...obviously. I may even trade him for a single pick in the 25-40 range.

 

[DFWJC]

Deion may be "right" but the only reason he takes a shot at Roy every chance he gets is because his boy TO was sent packing. I don't recall all this negativity about Roy when TO was still around. As soon as Jerry released TO, Deion started his attacks.

No. Sanders did not like the trade from day 1. The spotlight just was on RW much more after TO left.

I did not like the trade, but I've said earlier (last month) that I think RW is capable of giving us 900-1000 yards.