Deion Sanders: Cowboys were 'way off' in evaluating Roy Williams

[tomson75]

I'm maybe one of the few that actually likes Roy okay. I do think we got fleeced in the trade, but I think RW does have some talent and I find myslef feeling bad for him sometimes. I know...weak, right?

Would I trade him for what we piad...obviously. I may even trade him for a single pick in the 25-40 range.

I don't harbor any ill will towards the guy, in fact, I actually like him for the most part....I just don't think he's a very good football player. I never liked the trade. I think I gave myself a good shot at excepting him, not that it matters to anyone but myself, but I just don't see it ever working out. I just don't want to be one of those guys that just hates on a player for no apparent reason other than to prove myself right.

My guess is that we look back at this one in a few years and see that we overvalued him as a player, gave up too much for him, and gave him too long a shot on the team. I still hope that's not the case, and that he miraculously becomes the player I've never really seen, but I'm not putting a cent down on that.

I still can't hate the guy, but at this point I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't rather have someone come in to relieve a WR spot instead of him. FA or draft.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I can not stand deion. He is the reason I stopped watching the pre-game show on one of the networks.

However, with that said, I don't think he is off in what he said in that interview.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

actually the cowboys scout team had advised against trading for RW, but Jerry being the fantasy football league owner that he was traded for RW thinking with him and TO they offense would be unstoppable. yet he was wrong again, thinking the same thing when he signed Joey Galloway. that's his lack of football understanding about double teaming and how an offense works.

but since then it seems that Jerry has woken up a bit. his draft was better. his off season signings were better and it seems to have woken something up in him that I haven't seen in jerry forever. he may have grown up right in front of our eyes. it was a big slap in his face and he wasn't happy about it. maybe he has finally gotten smarter.

I don't know where you get that. I've never heard such a thing. In fact, Newy Scruggs insisted Garrett was the one who pushed for the trade, to free up TO. Now we do know that Jerry liked Roy for a while... Jerry has said that his scouts from when Roy was coming out gave him an extremely high grade at the time.

But I've never heard that the pro personnel people were against the player and Jerry ignored them. Any link or anything?

 

[jobberone]

Absolutely agree, I dont like Deion but cant disagree wth what he says here

RW is nowhere near a number 1 receiver, JJ overpaid (both picks and money)

T New is living off his past, once again JJ overpaid. Please dont take this to mean that i am saying that T New is a bad corner, he is pretty good but not great by any means.

I agree TNew is not a great corner. Pretty good is a very good assessment.

 

[RS12]

To be fair, the biggest problem with the Galloway trade was what he gave up for him. He didn't overestimate his talent. The whole deal blew up in our faces when Galloway was injured in his first game as a Cowboy. Add that to the plethora of problems at the QB position (a declining Aikman and nothing short of a sick joke behind him) and the Galloway trade was a bust. But, it had very little to do with Galloway's talent (as was exhibited when he went on to play VERY well for the Bucs in the twilight of his career).

Roy is a completely different story. But that whole scenario has been gone over a billion times. Nothing to add there.

:laugh2: The Galloway trade was horrible, period. Injury or no. How many players can you think of that are worth two number ones? Maybe a franchise QB. The worst part of that trade was Jerry thinking he was the missing piece. Its like the Raiders/ Seymour trade.

 

[JBond]

Oh good, another thread about Deion's opinions of Roy Williams. It was about time for one. We hadn't had one in almost 24 hours.

It's going to be a long off season for the mods......

 

[JBond]

I do agree that there are certain routs that RW has done better at than others. I think Dallas should look at more post and skinny post routs as well as crossing patterns with RW as opposed to comeback routs

I am not sure that RW will ever get his confidence back crossing the middle after getting laid out last year. I know he played in pain the rest of the season but that hit hurt him more mentally I think.

 

[DFWJC]

:laugh2: The Galloway trade was horrible, period. Injury or no. How many players can you think of that are worth two number ones? Maybe a franchise QB. The worst part of that trade was Jerry thinking he was the missing piece. Its like the Raiders/ Seymour trade.

Trades like that have a ripple effect on the franchise....especially if for some reason you lose the top picks and don't get the production.

Look at any team that has fallen on hard times and all you have to do is look at the drafts several years earlier. They are almost always the core of a collapse. Miss on top pciks and you get hurt, but if you don't have one period (and especially if its a higher pick) you can really start to erode.

 

[Doomsday101]

I am not sure that RW will ever get his confidence back crossing the middle after getting laid out last year. I know he played in pain the rest of the season but that hit hurt him more mentally I think.

I really don't he has taken big shot before. I think part of the problem is mental in that he is trying to live up to the expectations. I think you get back to the basic of just playing the game

 

[JBond]

I really don't he has taken big shot before. I think part of the problem is mental in that he is trying to live up to the expectations. I think you get back to the basic of just playing the game

Whatever the deal is, I just hope it's fixed by September.

 

[kimorah86]

You got that right i 4got they were a team

 

[Doomsday101]

Whatever the deal is, I just hope it's fixed by September.

I do as well because if not I don't see him here in 2011. I also think he has to get off to a quick start or he will see his plaing time cut down. Jerry may want this to work but he want's that championship more and just as he ate 9 mill on TO he will do it again if RW does not get it going. I say this as a supporter of RW

 

[Kaika]

I love these guys!!!!!!!

Hind site's 20/20.

Good Call D,

 

[jobberone]

I am not sure that RW will ever get his confidence back crossing the middle after getting laid out last year. I know he played in pain the rest of the season but that hit hurt him more mentally I think.

You're welcome to your opinion but I don't see how anyone here can know that.

I think his problems are mechanical and not mental.

 

[Rack]

Roy Williams is a piece of crap. Just like I said 2 years ago, no where near giving up a first round pick for much less a first and third.

 

[skinsscalper]

:laugh2: The Galloway trade was horrible, period. Injury or no. How many players can you think of that are worth two number ones? Maybe a franchise QB. The worst part of that trade was Jerry thinking he was the missing piece. Its like the Raiders/ Seymour trade.

Wow, read and comprehend much? The very first sentence of my post addressed that the problem with the Galloway trade was what we gave up for him.

 

[jimmy40]

The NFL Network was "way off" in evaluating Deion Sanders.

 

[garyv]

I thought so too regarding bad evaluation and somebody should be held accountable.

 

[Alexander]

Trades like that have a ripple effect on the franchise....especially if for some reason you lose the top picks and don't get the production.

Look at any team that has fallen on hard times and all you have to do is look at the drafts several years earlier. They are almost always the core of a collapse. Miss on top pciks and you get hurt, but if you don't have one period (and especially if its a higher pick) you can really start to erode.

I have a feeling we might look back at the 2009 draft and feel a little cheated without that first and third. Right now, we might have only a couple of productive players out of a twelve player class. Those high choices would have helped, certainly.

 

[tyke1doe]

I cant stand dion...... but "clapping with his feet"... i love that.

That and the Gilligan comment.