Demarcus Lawrence deserves some respect

[CCBoy]

Yeah,
If you think his on field performance has matched his second contract money that may indicate a similar over rating "our guys" and skewed market value problem that ownership seems to not get either with regards to writing second contracts.

But hey, Anthony Spencer almost got a lot of sacks too so there was already a precedence in place I guess, lol.

1. It's not your money.
2. What does money paid equal to in performance to begin with. How many sacks are recorded by top defensive tackles any way? How does sack scale equal to in salary weighted income any way.
3. He plays a salary weighted position as to defensive end position...just what other DEFENSIVE END replaced him to begin with. Without his presence the linebacker Parsons' job would limit him considerably...

Naw, more of a hero worship thing presented than true value, including leadership and aggressive non-stop play even in run support. He even moves inside to tackle!

 

[Majic]

Why flirt with turning over what currently is one of the very best rosters in the NFL?

Not what I am saying. My point is knowing what you know would you construct your roster paying all this money at that position for the impact he has given you. It's a hypothetical question.

 

[gtb1943]

You guys can complain all you want about lack of respect. His position is judged by sacks and QB pressures and frankly that would help a a lot more than a run stop he occasionally gets. He is still overpaid.

Cue the fanboys

Lawrence is overpaid for what he does.

We could get a guy who does all that he does for less since he has NEVER been much of a pass rusher and that is, in todays NFL, the primary duty of a DE.

 

[gtb1943]

1. It's not your money.
2. What does money paid equal to in performance to begin with. How many sacks are recorded by top defensive tackles any way? How does sack scale equal to in salary weighted income any way.
3. He plays a salary weighted position as to defensive end position...just what other DEFENSIVE END replaced him to begin with. Without his presence the linebacker Parsons' job would limit him considerably...

Naw, more of a hero worship thing presented than true value, including leadership and aggressive non-stop play even in run support. He even moves inside to tackle!

Its not YOUR money either and so you don't have a right to spend it on an overpaid player. See how that works?

 

[MyFairLady]

Sounds like a return of the Hot Boyz to me. Parsons is the real boss man.

 

[DuncanIso]

Demarcus Lawrence finished playing his 9th year in the NFL, all as a Dallas Cowboy.

D-Law (age 30 at the time) played all 17 games (plus 2 playoff games) and finished 2022 with the single season highest tackling numbers in his career. 65 total tackles, 43 solo tackles, 11 stuffs (tackle for a loss of yards): all career single season highs. Plus, he still accumulated 6 sacks, 3 forced fumbles (1 recovered) and 3 pass deflections. D-Law also played both postseason games for 2022, had 6 total tackles (4 solo), 2 assists, 1 sack and 2.5 stuffs (tackle for a loss). Not bad for a soon to be 10 year Defensive End/Tackle veteran who is now 31 years old (April).

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/16802/type/nfl/seasontype/3

D-Law certainly earned his paycheck in 2022. Looking forward to seeing how Demarcus Lawrence performs in 2023 with better weapons now around him.

#DLaw likely to finish out his contract.

He could get cut after 2023. Dead cap is $20 mil.

UFA in 2025.

 

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[CCBoy]

https://thelandryhat.com/posts/nfc-east-pass-rush-ranked-worst-best-2023/3

In most divisions, the Cowboys would have come out on top in 2022 but that wasn't the case thanks to the Philadelphia Eagles leading the league in sacks. And while they lost Javon Hargrave and the Cowboys were somehow able to retain their top defensive free agents — including Dante Fowler — Dallas still can't claim the top spot.

That doesn't mean they won't be one of the top pass-rushing defenses in the NFL once again in 2023. In fact, they should be right up there with anyone.
Micah Parsons continues to lead the way as the former 12th overall pick now has 26.5 sacks in two seasons. He was first on the team with 13.5 last year and while he was the only player in Big D to crack double digits, there were several players getting in on the action.

Dorance Armstrong had a personal-best 8.5 sacks and DeMarcus Lawrence and Fowler each had six. They also saw rookie Sam Williams record four sacks but the expectations are much higher for him in 2023 after the light bulb seemed to go off for him late in the year.

For good measure, Dallas had five sacks from safety Donovan Wilson and four from defensive tackle Osa Odighuzuwa.

They're deep and can explode in a hurry but they still come in just behind the frustrating Philadelphia Eagles.

This is where Lawrence fits...

 

[G2]

He's a fighter. Battled through some tough times. I remember a game he beat 3 O-linemen and got to the ball. Sick. Not high sacks, but above average in run defense, can drop, still has a motor and compliments the others, like they do him. With Hankins getting a full offseason he might have a very good season. Think he recently a 3 sack game, I dunno. I just think from a fans perspective, to me he's underrated.

 

[CCBoy]

He's a fighter. Battled through some tough times. I remember a game he beat 3 O-linemen and got to the ball. Sick. Not high sacks, but above average in run defense, can drop, still has a motor and compliments the others, like they do him. With Hankins getting a full offseason he might have a very good season. Think he recently a 3 sack game, I dunno. I just think from a fans perspective, to me he's underrated.

DEFENSIVE ENDS :
1) Charles Haley
2) Harvey martin
3) Ed Jones
4) Demarcus Lawrence
5) Jim Jeffcoat

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/dal/lineups.htm

OUTSIDE LINEBACKERS:
1) Demarcus Ware
2) Micah Parson
3) Chuck Howley
4) Dexter Coakley
5) Thomas Henderson

 

[CCBoy]

“Where do the coaches carry three defensive tackles? At the nose or three-technique?​

Mike - Neville Gallimore is the biggest question at the 3-tech position and Quinton Bohanna is the biggest question at the 1-tech position. Personally I think Gallimore will be a struggle to make the final roster since he’s looked the least effective out of the interior defensive linemen. If they played him more as a 3-tech as opposed to trying to make him play more as a 1-tech then he could look much better, but that’s the coaches decision. If there’s any player that could be used as trade bait this preseason it could be Gallimore, so be on the lookout for that. On the 1-tech side, the addition of Mazi Smith puts Bohanna’s role in jeopardy.

The question really becomes which side on defense do they feel least concerned about, pass rushers or run stopping. If they want to cover the run more then Bohanna stays to cover fatigue and injury. If they decide they want more pass rushers then Gallimore stays to add more pressure. If I’m making that decision then I would keep Bohanna and go long on 1T/NT players. The Cowboys pass rush is extremely effective where the run stopping had moments of struggle last year.

Brandon - The question is more about which defensive tackles make the roster. Four wild cards are at the position with Chauncey Golston, Junior Fehoko, Neville Gallimore, and Quinton Bohanna. Golston and Fehoko are “tweener” players that can take snaps inside or outside at edge, but where will they be playing most of the time? I believe both will be playing primarily at defensive tackle.

If both tweeners make the roster, and so do Mazi Smith and Johnathan Hankins, that leaves Bohanna or Gallimore to make the final cut. Gallimore gives more upside as a pass rusher but seemed out of the coach’s favor last season. Bohanna could get the upper hand to be a security blanket in case Hankins misses time due to injury, which means Gallimore is off the roster.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...quinton-bohanna-kavontae-turpin-jalen-tolbert

Mike - The strength of this team. especially on defense, is the pass-rushing ability and speed to the ball carrier. Durde has a big say in how that’s improved and become such an effective part of the defense. Any team he’s been a part of that’s always been the case, and that’s going all the way back to his days coaching in the British leagues. Even those teams dominated in the trenches with speed and physicality, so no wonder we see the same effect happen in Dallas when he arrived.

 

[Toro9]

I wasnt aware he wasn’t respected.

Way too many people want stats more than production. I get it. I used to be that way. If it has nothing to with documentation, people think the player is not as good as they really are.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I wasnt aware he wasn’t respected.

I honestly feel he's respected more outside of Dallas. His "sack totat" is always going to be what they go back to. Anthony Spencer wasn't the player Lawrence was but he also use to get a lot of hate for doing things that didn't show up in sack totals.

Not really sure why he doesn't get more sacks because his pass rush rates are typically pretty good.

 

[dfense]

I've never seen Lawrence take a play off. 100% every play.

 

[kskboys]

He does so much of the dirty work and gets such a bad rap for not having the sacks to go with it....disappointed to see the criticism he gets honestly l

He earned that criticism when he used surgery as a bargaining chip for a contract. That was petty and rather cowardly.

Before that, I was completely on his side. Not as much now. He is, however, a very effective player. When he's not on the field, our D suffers mightily.

 

[kskboys]

I honestly feel he's respected more outside of Dallas. His "sack totat" is always going to be what they go back to. Anthony Spencer wasn't the player Lawrence was but he also use to get a lot of hate for doing things that didn't show up in sack totals.

Not really sure why he doesn't get more sacks because his pass rush rates are typically pretty good.

I think it's closing burst/speed that he lacks.

DLaw is Tony Tolbert. Same guy. Obviously overpaid, but nonetheless very good.

 

[fivetwos]

When I see someone talk smack about DLaw - especially when they cite a lack of effort - that's one way to know that person either has an agenda, or doesn't know a thing about football.

I like him as a player and always have. I’ve defended him. He was never a sack guy but Jerry figured paying him that way would make him one. Not DL fault.

Two things I didn’t like…threatening to not get shoulder surgery until he got paid. If I were Jerry Jones he would still have a bad shoulder.

And telling a rookie to “not pay attention” to Garrett because Jerry is the real boss. Rubbed me wrongly and contributed to the problem at the time IMO.

I’ll call it almost even because he is a damn good defensive end, and he has more left.

 

[CCBoy]

I like him as a player and always have. I’ve defended him. He was never a sack guy but Jerry figured paying him that way would make him one. Not DL fault.

Two things I didn’t like…threatening to not get shoulder surgery until he got paid. If I were Jerry Jones he would still have a bad shoulder.

And telling a rookie to “not pay attention” to Garrett because Jerry is the real boss. Rubbed me wrongly and contributed to the problem at the time IMO.

I’ll call it almost even because he is a damn good defensive end, and he has more left.

Naw, a good leader always takes care of the health of his players.

 

[Nova]

You guys can complain all you want about lack of respect. His position is judged by sacks and QB pressures and frankly that would help a a lot more than a run stop he occasionally gets. He is still overpaid.

Giants fans used to complain about the exact opposite with Osi Umenyiora

 

[starfan1]

Demarcus is not exactly my favorite player on the team and I think he’s over paid but that’s what Jerry does

That said He’s a stout run defender and lunch pail guy you can rely

His injury woes appear to be behind him I wish he was more consistent on the sack front. He’ll get them in bunches then disappear for games at a time

He gets lots of almost sacks or hurries though