Deone Walker or Mason Graham at DT

Which DT do you prefer


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Graham and it's not close. Two years of production, and he's got unbelievable strength to go along with quickness. I just don't see how he fails in the NFL.

Walker deserves to be a first-round pick based on the Planet Theory alone, but he's still a raw player. He's 340 lbs and still has a poor anchor because he plays with poor pad level. His game is actually more like jumbo-sized 3 tech - it's all first step and hand fighting. And again, 340 lb men with the burst to do that are rare, but NFL guards can move a 340 lb man out of a gap no problem if they can get under him. We see it every weekend with Mazi.

Bleacher Report's scouting report comps Graham to Christian Wilkins, and I love that. He's maybe one step below Derrick Brown in terms of raw power, but they both chew up double teams like Chips Ahoy. And he's got a slasher element to his game that Brown never had. I think that's Wilkins to a tee.

Walker could be Dexter Lawrence, as a 340 lb DT impossible pass-rush skills for his size, or he could be Mazi. Some team will take that gamble early, but you don't do it with Graham still on the board.

The guy who intrigues me is Graham's running made, Kenneth Grant. He's another 330 lb Michigan "project" NT, which will make Cowboys fans wince, but he's already a better prospect than Mazi was. Dude has already put up 2 productive seasons, and Mazi put up literally zero. I'd guess that Grant goes in the 20-40 range when it's all said and done, and I'd rather take a chance on him there than on Walker at say #10.
 
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According to Brugler there is a very sharp decline of talent in this draft and the # may be lower than 8 elite prospects.


It also is how you define elite as well. I also agree there are not that many.
 
Graham and it's not close. Two years of production, and he's got unbelievable strength to go along with quickness. I just don't see how he fails in the NFL.

Walker deserves to be a first-round pick based on the Planet Theory alone, but he's still a raw player. He's 340 lbs and still has a poor anchor because he plays with poor pad level. His game is actually more like jumbo-sized 3 tech - it's all first step and hand fighting. And again, 340 lb men with the burst to do that are rare, but NFL guards can move a 340 lb man out of a gap no problem if they can get under him. We see it every weekend with Mazi.

Bleacher Report's scouting report comps Graham to Christian Wilkins, and I love that. He's maybe one step below Derrick Brown in terms of raw power, but they both chew up double teams like Chips Ahoy. And he's got a slasher element to his game that Brown never had. I think that's Wilkins to a tee.

Walker could be Dexter Lawrence, as a 340 lb DT impossible pass-rush skills for his size, or he could be Mazi. Some team will take that gamble, but you don't do it with Graham still on the board.

The guy who intrigues me is Graham's running made, Kenneth Grant. He's another 330 lb Michigan "project" NT, which will make Cowboys fans wince, but he's already a better prospect than Mazi was. Dude has put up 2 productive seasons, and Mazi put up literally zero.
Walker loves to play football and Mazi does not
you missed that clear difference
 
Graham and it's not close. Two years of production, and he's got unbelievable strength to go along with quickness. I just don't see how he fails in the NFL.

Walker deserves to be a first-round pick based on the Planet Theory alone, but he's still a raw player. He's 340 lbs and still has a poor anchor because he plays with poor pad level. His game is actually more like jumbo-sized 3 tech - it's all first step and hand fighting. And again, 340 lb men with the burst to do that are rare, but NFL guards can move a 340 lb man out of a gap no problem if they can get under him. We see it every weekend with Mazi.

Bleacher Report's scouting report comps Graham to Christian Wilkins, and I love that. He's maybe one step below Derrick Brown in terms of raw power, but they both chew up double teams like Chips Ahoy. And he's got a slasher element to his game that Brown never had. I think that's Wilkins to a tee.

Walker could be Dexter Lawrence, as a 340 lb DT impossible pass-rush skills for his size, or he could be Mazi. Some team will take that gamble early, but you don't do it with Graham still on the board.

The guy who intrigues me is Graham's running made, Kenneth Grant. He's another 330 lb Michigan "project" NT, which will make Cowboys fans wince, but he's already a better prospect than Mazi was. Dude has already put up 2 productive seasons, and Mazi put up literally zero. I'd guess that Grant goes in the 20-40 range when it's all said and done, and I'd rather take a chance on him there than on Walker at say #10.
If Graham’s scouting report remains strong and he’s still a consensus top 6/7 ish player he’s going to be a top target for me.

Jalen Carter is an incredibly lofty comp - but you see a bit of that in him.

I think Grants more of a run clogger that has a longer ways to go as a pass rusher but still a darn good prospect.
 
the michigan/dallas curse is real.
i know better.
mason graham.
 
I think he should have been a late 1st rounder. Walker does have some rush abilities, he isn't a zero like Davis in that area, he also isn't surrounded by elite talent like Davis had as well.
Davis was highly coveted by elite defensive line drafting teams. If the Eagles didn’t draft him Baltimore would have. If these linemen are better than Davis, the Cowboys need to grab one of them. Do they have Dexter Lawrence potential?
 
Davis was highly coveted by elite defensive line drafting teams. If the Eagles didn’t draft him Baltimore would have. If these linemen are better than Davis, the Cowboys need to grab one of them. Do they have Dexter Lawrence potential?
Yes, this is an excellent DT class.
 
If Graham’s scouting report remains strong and he’s still a consensus top 6/7 ish player he’s going to be a top target for me.

Jalen Carter is an incredibly lofty comp - but you see a bit of that in him.

I think Grants more of a run clogger that has a longer ways to go as a pass rusher but still a darn good prospect.
I get Dalvin Tomlinson vibes from Grant. 25-40 thats a pretty good get. I wished upon a star that Mazi could be Dalvin Tomlinson when we drafted him
 
Yes, this is an excellent DT class.
Ok. I am going to let the season play out but right now especially if we get a top 5 pick, I might trade back and double dip on the defensive line in the 1st two rounds. The defensive ends and tackles appear to both have good prospects. I think we need a “Mike” linebacker as well. My defensive wish list in any order is a defensive end, defensive tackle, and Mike linebacker.
 
Ok. I am going to let the season play out but right now especially if we get a top 5 pick, I might trade back and double dip on the defensive line in the 1st two rounds. The defensive ends and tackles appear to both have good prospects. I think we need a “Mike” linebacker as well. My defensive wish list in any order is a defensive end, defensive tackle, and Mike linebacker.
It’s a crap LBr class…I’d be happy with DL in the 1st 2 picks if the draft falls that way.

As long as we’re active in FA…oh wait.
 
Walker is a beast, but Osa is an UFA and I'm not sure they'll re-sign him.

Graham should be a plug and play 3 tech day 1 here.
 
Walker is a beast, but Osa is an UFA and I'm not sure they'll re-sign him.

Graham should be a plug and play 3 tech day 1 here.
Oh I agree that if Graham is there you take him; I would love to have both
 
Ok. I am going to let the season play out but right now especially if we get a top 5 pick, I might trade back and double dip on the defensive line in the 1st two rounds. The defensive ends and tackles appear to both have good prospects. I think we need a “Mike” linebacker as well. My defensive wish list in any order is a defensive end, defensive tackle, and Mike linebacker.
Cannot just have a defensive heavy type of class, have needs across the board. My guess right now our top 3 priority needs would be at DT, RB, WR in any order. LB, S, DE, OT are more secondary needs. Would love to come away with a big linebacker, but we only have so many picks, especially with Jerry trading another high 4th away.
 
If Graham’s scouting report remains strong and he’s still a consensus top 6/7 ish player he’s going to be a top target for me.

Jalen Carter is an incredibly lofty comp - but you see a bit of that in him.

I think Grants more of a run clogger that has a longer ways to go as a pass rusher but still a darn good prospect.
I think we all can agree Graham is one of the best prospects in the entire draft, probably will be a top 5 prospect. Question is, how wide is the gap from him to the next DT?
 
It’s a crap LBr class…I’d be happy with DL in the 1st 2 picks if the draft falls that way.

As long as we’re active in FA…oh wait.
I wouldn't hate adding a big linebacker to develop on day 3.
 
Our record with Michigan DLineman is awful so on that alone Walker.
 
I think we all can agree Graham is one of the best prospects in the entire draft, probably will be a top 5 prospect. Question is, how wide is the gap from him to the next DT?
Very, very wide.

The next guy up is likely his running mate from MICH or Walker or are currently rated almost a round lower.
 

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