Twitter: Derrick Brooks will work with the Cowboys

[MileyDancer]

If you want to bring a former linebacker in it should have been Dexter Coakley. Let him work with the players over the summer then trade him.

I'm thinking Coakley and Romo package deal will get us at least 3 first round picks.

 

[jobberone]

Although I like this, linebackers are the least of my concerns about this defense next year.

I understand but don't agree. We are getting killed underneath and across the zones. We need cover LBers who can shed, fill and tackle. Derrick wasn't the greatest at shedding but he got around blocks and to the ball. And he could cover.

You can't overlook pass defense from the LBers and that's not all. Brooks can help in run support as well as being an expert of Marinelli's D.

 

[Risen Star]

It takes a Village to do this folks, so I like it very much, keep em' coming Marinelli.

You can take the I'm With Her sign out of your lawn. It's over.

 

[Risen Star]

Cmon. Who are you really? When do the players get here? - Derrick Brooks, to Anthony Hitchens

 

[KJJ]

LOL i'm not making it personal. I've told you multiple times, and you still just black it out of your memory when you could confirm it in 5 seconds. I've laid it out in black and white for you, literally did all the leg work.

He ended up in Dallas because the offense sucked (Cutler seems to do that), and they let Lovie go, they wanted Marinelli to stay but he wasn't going to stay since they fired Lovie.

You did get personal and you need to get it through your head this isn't about me and don't make it about me. I'm glad you did the legwork, I wasn't about to waste my time with it because it makes no difference what happened with Marinelli in Chicago. He left Chicago because he didn't want to work with Trestman who may have ended up eventually dumping Marinelli. The 4 years Marinelli spent in Chicago their defense ranked 17th twice and made the top 10 twice. The Cowboys had two defensive teams rank ahead of Marinelli's those years. If it was all the offense and Cutler's fault for what happened in Chicago why is Cutler still there 4 years later? Cutler isn't very good but if it was all him and the offense he would have been sent packing along with Lovie after the 2012 season and wouldn't have all the starts he's had since then. Marinelli ended up in Dallas because of Kiffin being here and the Cowboys desire to try and recapture the past glory of those two old farts from a decade ago in Tampa.

Marinelli was part of the debacle in 2013 that saw our defense give up five 400 yard passing games and end the season with the third worst defense statistically in league history. In 2014 our top 5 offense helped mask some of the issues with our defense by not exposing them on the field as much. Our D eventually caught up with us in the playoffs with Rodgers shredding us. We couldn't get a consistent pass rush, couldn't tackle or cover. In 2015 it wasn't just our QB situation that cost us games, it was our defense. We gave up three 14 point leads to Atlanta. We lost two OT games in which our offense never saw the field due to our defense giving up first possession TD's. We blew a game against Tampa because we couldn't stop them in the final moments. This season our top 5 offense covered up for our bend but don't break defense by leading the league in chewing up the clock.

In the playoffs our defense caught up with us once again with another shredding by Aaron Rodgers. We saw the same damn issues we've been seeing, the lack of a consistent pass rush, miss tackles and poor coverage. What improvements have you seen with this defense since Marinelli arrived? Does it not look like we're having the same issues we had under Kiffin and Ryan? Marinelli is bringing in Brooks to help him because he's going to be on the hot seat in 2017. If the defense continues to be our achilles heel and costs us again, his head is going to roll. The game has passed him by, we need to start looking for a young DC and stop wasting our time with these old coaches who are trying to recapture something special they had with a great team years ago.

 

[Zman5]

If what he did in Chicago a few years ago was anything special he wouldn't ended up in Dallas. Nuff said!

He left because Lovie Smith got fired. It doesn't mean Chicago had a bad defense. I know you are a big time 2007 Giants fan boy but you should really try to learn what's going on in the NFL recently.

 

[KJJ]

He left because Lovie Smith got fired. It doesn't mean Chicago had a bad defense. I know you are a big time 2007 Giants fan boy but you should really try to learn what's going on in the NFL recently.

I just discussed why he left it was because of the Trestman hiring, try following along instead of being stuck on some ridiculous agenda. The Bears defense wasn't anything special when Marinelli was there, it ranked 17th twice in his 4 years. Where are my posts pointing to me being a 2007 Giants fan boy? Stop blowing smoke and start providing some quotes. What's going on recently is the same **** we've been seeing with defense the past decade. DC changes haven't changed a damn thing.

 

[Zman5]

I just discussed why he left, try following along instead of being stuck on some ridiculous agenda. The Bears defense wasn't bad but it wasn't anything special. Where are my posts pointing to me being a 2007 Giants fan boy? Stop blowing smoke and start providing some quotes. What's going on recently is the same **** we've been seeing with defense the past decade. DC changes haven't changed a damn thing.

Might want to look at our roster. Also take a look at the defensive players we've drafted since JG took over as the HC. Stop wasting your time worshiping the 2007 Giants defense and come back to me once you learn what our roster looks like.

 

[KJJ]

Might want to look at our roster. Also take a look at the defensive players we've drafted since JG took over as the HC. Stop wasting your time worshiping the 2007 Giants defense and come back to me once you learn what our roster looks like.

Marinelli has lobbied for some of these players, he's had a hand in the impute during the drafting process. You need stop wasting your time looking me up because the voices in your head are becoming annoying.

 

[Zman5]

Marinelli has lobbied for some of these players, he's had a hand in the impute during the drafting process. You need stop wasting your time looking me up because the voices in your head are becoming annoying.

Looking you up? LOL. Sure. Keep telling yourself you're important.

 

[KJJ]

Looking you up? LOL. Sure. Keep telling yourself you're important.

I'm real important to you, got you following me around with some ridiculous agenda. I'm bouncing around in your head like a pinball....ding-ding-ding! lol

 

[BAT]

Brooks needs to remind Rod that what made him a great coordinator in TB was himself, Sapp, Rice, Lynch, Weems, Nickerson......you know, guys with lots of talent!

I agree with you too but .... Weems?!!? Over Ronde Barber and Booger McFarland? Dexter Jackson I know, even Spires or Quarles.

But who the heck was Weems?!?

 

[BAT]

I understand but don't agree. We are getting killed underneath and across the zones. We need cover LBers who can shed, fill and tackle. Derrick wasn't the greatest at shedding but he got around blocks and to the ball. And he could cover.

You can't overlook pass defense from the LBers and that's not all. Brooks can help in run support as well as being an expert of Marinelli's D.

LBs who were converted safeties who can also play inside and outside, stop run and cover, then put hand on ground and pick up 9 sacks?



I give you Haason Reddick: 6'1 240 4.4

Wilber uber-upgrade who can play SAM on regular downs and DE on passing downs. Also a terror blitzing from LB spot. Eventual Lee successor at WILL.

 

[Texas_Pete]

It takes a Village to do this folks, so I like it very much, keep em' coming Marinelli.

This. Wouldn't mind him bringing in Warren Sapp to teach Maliek Collins too.

 

[Redball Express]

It's a criticism of Marinelli who hasn't built a quality defense in years. The Cowboys brought him in to try and recapture his past glory from 15 years ago in Tampa. We're having the damn same issues with him that we had under Kiffin and Ryan.

Yes..agreed.

But its the personel.

Don't you think.?

We don't have the players on the DL and LBer yet we need to repeat past sucess with Marinelli.

 

[gimmesix]

I understand but don't agree. We are getting killed underneath and across the zones. We need cover LBers who can shed, fill and tackle. Derrick wasn't the greatest at shedding but he got around blocks and to the ball. And he could cover.

You can't overlook pass defense from the LBers and that's not all. Brooks can help in run support as well as being an expert of Marinelli's D.

I think Lee and Smith will be able to give us all we need at linebacker, and I feel better about Wilson, too, after last year. There's no doubt that both Wilson and Smith can use some tutoring ... but I think the talent of Smith and Lee is what we need more than Brooks' teaching.

The LB group has talent to work with that we don't have on the other two levels.

 

[Aven8]

Good he can teach all of them to catch the ball and run in for a TD now!

 

[Mr Cowboy]

I agree with you too but .... Weems?!!? Over Ronde Barber and Booger McFarland? Dexter Jackson I know, even Spires or Quarles.

But who the heck was Weems?!?

Those were the ones off the top of my head, I don't have the entire Bucs team in my mental rolodex.........sorry to disappoint!

 

[KJJ]

Yes..agreed.

But its the personel.

Don't you think.?

We don't have the players on the DL and LBer yet we need to repeat past sucess with Marinelli.

Without question the players are the main problem, we have mostly JAGS on defense but Marinelli has to take some of the blame for it because he's been here through 4 drafts and free agent periods and has lobbied for some of these players. He's a respected coach and his opinions are going to carry a lot of weight in the defensive players we draft and sign. I've heard him talk up Carr and a few others who are average players who've been liabilities especially when it's come down to the crunch games. These old coaches are living off past success with a group of great players they were able to assemble years ago. All coaches are products of their players and Marinelli and Kiffin were blessed with players like Lynch, Sapp, Brooks, Barber and a few others that made up that great Tampa defense in 02, enabling the Bucs to win a SB with Brad Johnson at QB. Good luck trying to recapture that magic with the JAGS we have on defense.

Regardless the scheme or change in personal we have the same problems year after year. Honestly, until we start hitting on some real good defensive players, changing DC's and schemes aren't going to help. Once you get past Lee and the potential Irving has, I see nothing but JAGS. Byron Jones hasn't impressed me he always seems to be in the wrong place and hasn't shown any instincts to make plays. Mo can't stay healthy, holds and plays not to get beat. We have to build this DL and get a big nasty NT upfront who can push the pocket and create some havoc and we need an elite edge rusher along with at least one "playmaker" in the secondary if we're going to be able to stop the elite offenses and QBs in the playoffs.

 

[Oh_Canada]

If you want to bring a former linebacker in it should have been Dexter Coakley. Let him work with the players over the summer then trade him.

Marvelous!