Twitter: Derrick Brooks will work with the Cowboys

[AzorAhai]

I understand but don't agree. We are getting killed underneath and across the zones. We need cover LBers who can shed, fill and tackle. Derrick wasn't the greatest at shedding but he got around blocks and to the ball. And he could cover.

You can't overlook pass defense from the LBers and that's not all. Brooks can help in run support as well as being an expert of Marinelli's D.

I remember when people were praising Durant for playing so well. I was kind of shocked because it was just an average at best job to me. He simply doesn't have the speed we needed. He was a liability in coverage, being exposed on crossing routes and in zone, and was only average at best in the run game. He did an admirable job for what he was, but if Jaylon isn't healthy, LB is a huge need. Its either a huge need or not a need at all depending on Jaylon and I fear they won't know enough by draft time to know for sure one way or another. If Jaylon is healthy, the Mike and Will are set with depth enough for the Sam and any injuries that may occur.

 

[Floatyworm]

I think Marinelli is trying to win champianships

I think he is looking for a scapegoat for when his outdated coaching fails again.

 

[Texas_Pete]

Derrick with the GOAT RB:

 

[phildadon86]

If the Bears defense was so great how come he ended up in Dallas? Our D looks the same as it always has since he's been here. By the way if you're looking to make this personal go start ths

Our defense was HISTORICALLY bad before he got here. This year we were literally a top ten unit in Points allowed. Your argument is the same i hear here all the time about. Well if hes that good why is he available. Enough already. Its not an argument. Its a cop out. Demarcus Ware was available, as was Talib, as were a LOT of very talented and superstar players. So just stop already.

 

[Bowdown27]

I hope Jaylon Smith soaks up everything Brooks teaches him like a sponge.

That was my thought. Kid could change our defense for years to come. A whole buncha what ifs but still

 

[KJJ]

Our defense was HISTORICALLY bad before he got here. This year we were literally a top ten unit in Points allowed. Your argument is the same i hear here all the time about. Well if hes that good why is he available. Enough already. Its not an argument. Its a cop out. Demarcus Ware was available, as was Talib, as were a LOT of very talented and superstar players. So just stop already.

You need to stop already I never said anything about if he was that good why is he available, that's your spin. He stopped being good in Tampa when all those great players he had began to decline. The defense is having the same damn issues it had when he arrived in 2013. Nothing has changed, we continue not having a consistent pass rush and we can't cover or make enough plays when it matters most. We can get by during the regular season with a strong ball control offense that scores points and that protects the defense from being exposed too much but it catches up with us in the playoffs. Same problems year after year.

 

[cowboys5xsbs]

You need to stop already I never said anything about if he was that good why is he available, that's your spin. He stopped being good in Tampa when all those great players he had began to decline. The defense is having the same damn issues it had when he arrived in 2013. Nothing has changed, we continue not having a consistent pass rush and we can't cover or make enough plays when it matters most. We can get by during the regular season with a strong ball control offense that scores points and that protects the defense from being exposed too much but it catches up with us in the playoffs. Same problems year after year.

There is no dc in the league that would get pass rush with pratice squad dlineman. Coverage is a symptom of no pass rush.

 

[Redball Express]

Without question the players are the main problem, we have mostly JAGS on defense but Marinelli has to take some of the blame for it because he's been here through 4 drafts and free agent periods and has lobbied for some of these players. He's a respected coach and his opinions are going to carry a lot of weight in the defensive players we draft and sign. I've heard him talk up Carr and a few others who are average players who've been liabilities especially when it's come down to the crunch games. These old coaches are living off past success with a group of great players they were able to assemble years ago. All coaches are products of their players and Marinelli and Kiffin were blessed with players like Lynch, Sapp, Brooks, Barber and a few others that made up that great Tampa defense in 02, enabling the Bucs to win a SB with Brad Johnson at QB. Good luck trying to recapture that magic with the JAGS we have on defense.

Regardless the scheme or change in personal we have the same problems year after year. Honestly, until we start hitting on some real good defensive players, changing DC's and schemes aren't going to help. Once you get past Lee and the potential Irving has, I see nothing but JAGS. Byron Jones hasn't impressed me he always seems to be in the wrong place and hasn't shown any instincts to make plays. Mo can't stay healthy, holds and plays not to get beat. We have to build this DL and get a big nasty NT upfront who can push the pocket and create some havoc and we need an elite edge rusher along with at least one "playmaker" in the secondary if we're going to be able to stop the elite offenses and QBs in the playoffs.

Agreed.

But the team has not helped him with drafting.

And I agree about Jones.

He's not very aggressive and even before the blown coverage with Rogers and them winning..

I was not seeing his impact at all. He was covering a lot of underneath stuff and no big plays.

I would like to see him and Brown at CB and just let Claiborne and Carr go.

 

[Idgit]

Our defense was HISTORICALLY bad before he got here. This year we were literally a top ten unit in Points allowed. Your argument is the same i hear here all the time about. Well if hes that good why is he available. Enough already. Its not an argument. Its a cop out. Demarcus Ware was available, as was Talib, as were a LOT of very talented and superstar players. So just stop already.

It's obvious that the issue on defense is the talent and not the coach. It's also been the case that we've improved dramatically in Dallas under Marinelli. As did the Chicago defense. The team clearly loves him, the players rave about him. I don't hear anybody raving about the talent in our front 7, though.

Fix the personnel, improve the defense. It's not as complicated as people are making it. This debate is almost as silly as the Linehan hate directed at the offensive side of the ball. Almost.

 

[KJJ]

Agreed.

But the team has not helped him with drafting.

Marinelli has been part of the drafting process the past 4 drafts providing impute.

 

[Redball Express]

Marinelli has been part of the drafting process the past 4 drafts providing impute.

Understood.

But he needs help now.

With Romo leaving we should be able to go after somebody or 2 in FA and the draft with more cash.

 

[KJJ]

Understood.

But he needs help now.

With Romo leaving we should be able to go after somebody or 2 in FA and the draft with more cash.

He needs help now and he's bringing in Brooks to try and help him out because he'll be on the hot seat in 2017 and likely won't be retained if the defense continues to be our undoing.

 

[willia451]

Yes..agreed.

But its the personel.

Don't you think.?

We don't have the players on the DL and LBer yet we need to repeat past sucess with Marinelli.

I would have agreed with you. Had I not see that defensive scheme we came out with to start the GB game Jan 15th that allowed 3 TDs to be dropped on it in 3 possessions.

RM did a pretty good job all season of turning lemons into half-way decent lemonade. Then lost his mind in the first half of our playoff game. Or somebody did. Since we don't really know who, the finger has to point RMs way.

The Falcons defense is literally no better than ours. And they annihilated AR and Co. Exposing the GB OL for what it is.

Why couldn't the Cowboys do that? Because. We were too busy rushing 3 and giving AR all day long to run laterally and pick us apart. Who the <bleeps> idea was that?

Anyway.

Once what passes for our brain trust saw what was happening, they adjusted and GB only got 1 more TD all game. But by then, of course, it was too late.

As I've said before.

Big time coaches show up in big time games. Regular season awards mean nothing.

So there's that.

 

[Stryker44]

Its amazing that Marinelli has a job when Ryan got fired for losing with a much less talented defense.

 

[Redball Express]

I would have agreed with you. Had I not see that defensive scheme we came out with to start the GB game Jan 15th that allowed 3 TDs to be dropped on it in 3 possessions.

RM did a pretty good job all season of turning lemons into half-way decent lemonade. Then lost his mind in the first half of our playoff game. Or somebody did. Since we don't really know who, the finger has to point RMs way.

The Falcons defense is literally no better than ours. And they annihilated AR and Co. Exposing the GB OL for what it is.

Why couldn't the Cowboys do that? Because. We were too busy rushing 3 and giving AR all day long to run laterally and pick us apart. Who the <bleeps> idea was that?

Anyway.

Once what passes for our brain trust saw what was happening, they adjusted and GB only got 1 more TD all game. But by then, of course, it was too late.

As I've said before.

Big time coaches show up in big time games. Regular season awards mean nothing.

So there's that.

Good points.

I come away with concern that Garrett is not able to deal with the intensity of the playoffs yet.

We fall behind big then have to scramble to get back in the games. GB in playoffs 2014 and now GB in playoffs 2016.

Good teams don't play that way.

 

[phildadon86]

You need to stop already I never said anything about if he was that good why is he available, that's your spin. He stopped being good in Tampa when all those great players he had began to decline. The defense is having the same damn issues it had when he arrived in 2013. Nothing has changed, we continue not having a consistent pass rush and we can't cover or make enough plays when it matters most. We can get by during the regular season with a strong ball control offense that scores points and that protects the defense from being exposed too much but it catches up with us in the playoffs. Same problems year after year.

You literally said if he was that good in Chicago why was he available.

 

[KJJ]

You literally said if he was that good in Chicago why was he available.

I said if the Bears defense was so great how come he ended up in Dallas? I made that comment to another poster before I looked into Marinelli's situation in Chicago. The other poster who claimed he did research said Marinelli ended up in Dallas because of Cutler but the facts are he ended up leaving because he didn't want to work with Marc Trestman. I pointed out the Bears defense finished 17th twice in Marinelli's 4 year stay in Chicago but some are acting like he built the 85 Bears defense. lol

 

[gmoney112]

I said if the Bears defense was so great how come he ended up in Dallas? I made that comment to another poster before I looked into Marinelli's situation in Chicago. The other poster claimed he ended up in Dallas because of Cutler but the facts are he ended up leaving because he didn't want to work with Marc Trestman. I pointed out the Bears defense finished 17th twice in Marinelli's 4 year stay in Chicago.

I didn't bother to respond because everyone thinks it's funny that you say "finish 17th", like that means something.

You obviously didn't pay attention to any of the figures that actually matter. Like being tops in the league in turnovers forced and pressures basically every year he was DC.

Or the fact that anyone that watched the NFL during those years, or even played Fantasy Football for that matter, knew that Chicago's defense was absolutely considered "elite". The way they completely embarrassed some teams just with their defense was fun to watch.

I'll save you some time. Marinelli isn't going anywhere. And no one who has watched the league or follows it thinks he should. You should stop worrying about it.

 

[KJJ]

I didn't bother to respond because everyone thinks it's funny that you say "finish 17th", like that means something.

You obviously didn't pay attention to any of the figures that actually matter. Like being tops in the league in turnovers forced and pressures basically every year he was DC.

Or the fact that anyone that watched the NFL during those years, or even played Fantasy Football for that matter, knew that Chicago's defense was absolutely considered "elite". The way they completely embarrassed some teams just with their defense was fun to watch.

I'll save you some time. Marinelli isn't going anywhere. And no one who has watched the league or follows it thinks he should. You should stop worrying about it.

You think it's funny but not everyone thinks like you which is a good thing they don't and you didn't respond because you didn't have answers to the questions I posed. You claimed you did some legwork but apparently you stumbled along the way, claiming Cutler was the reason Marinelli ended up in Dallas when it was because he didn't want to work with Trestman who had just been hired. The Bears finished 17th twice during Marinelli's 4 years.

The Bears defense was never considered "elite" during any season Marinelli was there. There's a lot of fans on this board who haven't been happy with the job Marinelli has done with the defense since he's been here. We have the same issues now that we had the day he was hired. I'll ask you again, what improvements have you seen with the defense since Marinelli arrived and are you pleased with the defense? You can either run and hide or provide an answer.

 

[willia451]

Good points.

I come away with concern that Garrett is not able to deal with the intensity of the playoffs yet.

We fall behind big then have to scramble to get back in the games. GB in playoffs 2014 and now GB in playoffs 2016.

Good teams don't play that way.

Nothing will change, however. Everyone thinks 13-3 was great. And we are only 1 or 2 players away from breaking through.

Just like everyone thought in 2014. Just like everyone thought in 2007. Just like everyone thinks right now.

And they are right. RM. Linehan. Garret. Jerry. They aren't going anywhere.

But I would submit this:



That's what it feels like out here to me. Everyone has gone insane.

21 years without a divisional playoff win is clear evidence that the Cowboys are broken. Only two other teams in the NFC have gone longer than that. The Commanders and the Lions. Great company.

We can't fix that. We're only fans. It has to come from within the Cowboys franchise.

And its broken.