Derrick Harmon film review

[darthseinfeld]

 

[gtb1943]

This guy talks too much

honestly I have some questions about Harmon. I know it was against Ohio State but I saw him using strength to get a lot of things done; not technique. That is not going to work so well in the pros.

 

[gtb1943]

the play where he is boasting about Harmon making the tackle, the RB gained about eight yards.
Harmon has a lot of athletic ability but he is still fairly raw. a lot of people talk about DTs needing time to develop and I think Harmon might be one of them.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Big fan of Harmon. I see a guy that knows how to get off blocks and is constantly penetrating.

 

[cnuball21]

DT2 for me…perfect blend of pass rush and run defense and great length. Stud.

 

[Cowboyny]

I have heard NFL Scouts are all over the place with Harmon, some see him high, some see him more as a 3rd rd prospect. I have Grant, slightly ahead of Harmon, but both in my option should be top 20 picks. Harmon has the higher pass rush potential, but I feel Grant is going to be an elite run defender which this team has needed for years.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I have heard NFL Scouts are all over the place with Harmon, some see him high, some see him more as a 3rd rd prospect. I have Grant, slightly ahead of Harmon, but both in my option should be top 20 picks. Harmon has the higher pass rush potential, but I feel Grant is going to be an elite run defender which this team has needed for years.

I can't link but I did a PFF mock a couple days ago...........
**traded from 12 to Broncos 20........rec'd 1st 20th, 2nd 52, 2026 3rd and 4th

Draft
1st (20) Walter Nolen.....DT
2nd(44) Kabel Johnson....RB
3rd( 52) Derrick Harmon...DT

Surprised Harmon was there at 52........

 

[gtb1943]

I can't link but I did a PFF mock a couple days ago...........
**traded from 12 to Broncos 20........rec'd 1st 20th, 2nd 52, 2026 3rd and 4th

Draft
1st (20) Walter Nolen.....DT
2nd(44) Kabel Johnson....RB
3rd( 52) Derrick Harmon...DT

Surprised Harmon was there at 52........

some mocks get stranger and stranger

 

[darthseinfeld]

I have heard NFL Scouts are all over the place with Harmon, some see him high, some see him more as a 3rd rd prospect. I have Grant, slightly ahead of Harmon, but both in my option should be top 20 picks. Harmon has the higher pass rush potential, but I feel Grant is going to be an elite run defender which this team has needed for years.

I definitely dont see Harmon as a day 2 guy. I think he is going to be one of those guys that rises as media scouts start getting info from pro's

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Two DTs I liked the past two drafts have been very productive on their respective teams: Bryan Bresee (Saints) and Braden Fiske (Rams). Bresee has racked up 12.5 sacks in his two seasons for New Orleans and Fiske had 8.5 sacks as a rookie in LA. The commonality with both of these guys is that they both demonstrated ability to beat blocks on the inside and get pressure on the QB.

Harmon shows those same traits.

 

[J-man]

He's a very good DT in this class. If they pass on DT at 12, he should absolutely be in the conversation at 44. But honestly, they may have to move up to get him. The hope is there are several good DT's this class and that may push some good ones down the board to us.

 

[Mr_437]

If you just watched Chris Jones and Jalen Carter in the SB I don't see how the Cowboys could leave this position to chance with Osa pricing out. Trade back if you need to, but get Harmon to Dallas. A 6'4 315lb powerful, agile 3T is hard to find.

 

[tm1119]

I don’t love Harmon as much as most…at least not as a 1st round pick. At 44 I’d be happy with the pick though

Harmon checks a lot (most) of the boxes you look for in a DT, I’m just not sure he has an elite trait that makes him a 1st round pick. He reminds me of a more polished version of Gervon Dexter from a couple of years ago

 

[gimmesix]

I can't link but I did a PFF mock a couple days ago...........
**traded from 12 to Broncos 20........rec'd 1st 20th, 2nd 52, 2026 3rd and 4th

Draft
1st (20) Walter Nolen.....DT
2nd(44) Kabel Johnson....RB
3rd( 52) Derrick Harmon...DT

Surprised Harmon was there at 52........

It's good value. However, I think if we take Nolen in the first round, we need more of a NT type for our second DT pick. Of course, I don't think Harmon lasts until 52. I wonder about Nolen's teammate JJ Pegues. He's only a few pounds lighter than Harmon but he's about three inches shorter, which helps with maintaining leverage. Not saying I'd take him instead of Harmon, just that he's more likely to be available then than Harmon. Of course, he may go lower than the third round.

 

[gtb1943]

we have GOT to have a top NT. Until the middle of the D is tough enough, our D will never take the next step.

 

[Zekeats]

This guy talks too much

honestly I have some questions about Harmon. I know it was against Ohio State but I saw him using strength to get a lot of things done; not technique. That is not going to work so well in the pros.

I will always take strength like I will always take speed. Can't teach/coach it. Hate finesse OLine/Dline/LBers. Give me the strength up front always.

 

[gtb1943]

I will always take strength like I will always take speed. Can't teach/coach it. Hate finesse OLine/Dline/LBers. Give me the strength up front always.

the point is that he is going to meet a lot of players just as strong. if he does not have technique, he will fail.

 

[exciter]

It's good value. However, I think if we take Nolen in the first round, we need more of a NT type for our second DT pick. Of course, I don't think Harmon lasts until 52. I wonder about Nolen's teammate JJ Pegues. He's only a few pounds lighter than Harmon but he's about three inches shorter, which helps with maintaining leverage. Not saying I'd take him instead of Harmon, just that he's more likely to be available then than Harmon. Of course, he may go lower than the third round.

What I’m seeing (isn’t much) has him rated as a 6th!

 

[cnuball21]

Two DTs I liked the past two drafts have been very productive on their respective teams: Bryan Bresee (Saints) and Braden Fiske (Rams). Bresee has racked up 12.5 sacks in his two seasons for New Orleans and Fiske had 8.5 sacks as a rookie in LA. The commonality with both of these guys is that they both demonstrated ability to beat blocks on the inside and get pressure on the QB.

Harmon shows those same traits.

50+ pressures to lead DTs in CFB for DTs and one of the few with a run and pass rusher grade over 80.

Every year I have about 5 dudes that are my guys and he might be the top of the list for me.

 

[gimmesix]

What I’m seeing (isn’t much) has him rated as a 6th!

Might be, and some list him more as a 3-tech type anyway. I just want some bulk if we go with Nolen (305) or Harmon (310). Need guys we can rotate that aren't washed up or JAGs. I'd probably even take three in the draft, like Parcells did when we drafted Spears in the first, Canty in the fourth and Ratliff in the seventh. Stock that line!