Derrick Henry Trade: Insider Notes on Titans RB as Surprise Sleeper Team Emerges in Sweepstakes

[Cowboyny]

While they might be “in coverage”, they’re not in deep coverage.

Teams are crowding the Cowboys up front because they don’t fear getting beat deep.

Dallas doesn’t scare anyone deep. In fact, they rarely even try

They are actually playing a ton of 2 high safety looks, they aren't crowding the box at all.

 

[Stash]

They are actually playing a ton of 2 high safety looks, they aren't crowding the box at all.

Sure thing.

 

[Cowboyny]

Sure thing.

Jets/49ers/Broncos all come from the Fangio coaching tree, where they rush four and play two safeties back.

 

[Stash]

Jets/49ers/Broncos all come from the Fangio coaching tree, where they rush four and play two safeties back.

And of course that means that’s all they ever do.

 

[thunderpimp91]

And of course that means that’s all they ever do.

As I go back and watch the games I really don't see a ton of box stacking from defenses to be honest. I just rewatched the LA game yesterday and you routinely see two deep safety looks from them. In fact they were incredibly loose in coverage early on in that game.

Where I think the Cowboys struggle and you start to feel like the box is being stacked is that they are relatively predictable. I'm not fully charting like teams would do in film reviews however it seems like a very high percentage of the time if Dak is under center its a run....if in gun but receivers are bunched in tight its a run or some sort of pass behind the LOS. In shotgun and spread out its almost always a pass play. The Cowboys are too predictable, and when you are playing in tight formations you start to stack the box yourself.

What I'm seeing, and again this is strictly from memory without hard data, but teams seem to be keeping their safeties back and stacking the box comes in the form of keeping LBs up, so it looks crowded but still a 'hat on a hat' situation. On run downs its a pretty standard 4-2 look, on passing down It's become a regular thing where teams are in 2 deep looks, have 6 players around the LOS and keeping the middle of the field open and make Dak guess on who is coming and who is dropping.

I wish a site like PFF would get more into charting things like this to give us a visual of personnel teams use, coverage types, etc but I guess player grades are easier to sell subscriptions for.

 

[Carson]

Jonathan Taylor just got 42M for 3 years, You think Henry will sign for 12m for 2 years? LOL

He’s declining. He is almost 30 and a reason the Titans are moving on. Taylor is still 24 with prime years left.

Running backs barely get paid. Josh Jacobs, Barkley and Pollard on franchise deals.

Taylor is an exception not the rule.

 

[baltcowboy]

I have heard they really "like" Surtain as well, but there is no player I would trade multiple 1st rd picks for.

Surtain Jr. will only be traded for like a Watson or Russ deal. Not happening.

 

[windward]

You skipped over the part about the Ravens being the favorites to land Henry. Another organization where winning actually matters. Apparently they arent as worried about the money part.

What have they done since 2012? The same? Ok.

 

[DandyDon1722]

Interesting. Maybe Jerry is reading the forum.

If he was a he would know to resign tomorrow.

 

[Cowboyny]

Surtain Jr. will only be traded for like a Watson or Russ deal. Not happening.

You know I am not high on Surtain as well, lol.

 

[gimmesix]

Absolutely.

You owe Henry 6.3 million for the rest of the season. Lock him up for 2-3 years and let Henry / Dowdle be your 1-2 next season

You had me till Dowdle. Next year, the goal should be to get a back in the top three rounds to pair with Henry and ultimately replace him IMO.

 

[Jimbo123]

Henry is 28 and has bidders. The Ravens fans think if they get him they are going to the Super Bowl.

Henry will be 30 in January

 

[Jimbo123]

I would rather save the draft pick and use it to get a 21 year old RB who might play for five or more seasons with the team than a 30 year old winding down his career for a bigger chunk of the cap.

Let's pretend the window is wider than a single season and not close it for the future.

Finally someone with some sense.

 

[phildadon86]

Finally someone with some sense.

Yeah. Sense.

Thinking this window is going to stay intact with the rest of the NFC not being that good. This is the year to go for it.

 

[Jimbo123]

He’s declining. He is almost 30 and a reason the Titans are moving on. Taylor is still 24 with prime years left.

Running backs barely get paid. Josh Jacobs, Barkley and Pollard on franchise deals.

Taylor is an exception not the rule.

Not in Henry's mind

 

[gimmesix]

Don't see us doing this, or anything really, unless we lose Sunday. Jerry has to have something to react off.

 

[RS12]

What have they done since 2012? The same? Ok.

Since you are the "historian", i dont need to remind you how long it has been since this team has done anything. OK? You are cherry picking to make yourself feel better.

 

[baltcowboy]

You know I am not high on Surtain as well, lol.

We have our Surtain in Diggs anyway. Cowboys not going to pay for two cornerbacks.

 

[Hadenough]

People have turned on Deuce so bad it’s laughable and sad.

There's small players in the NFL but Deuce is just too small.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

The way the line is playing I'm not sure Henry would help. The new blocking scheme isn't having the desired results.

I understand we want a short yardage power back but Dowdle and Luepke can fill those roles.