Deuce Vaughn-Really?

[GINeric]

The problem is they put him in there at the end of the game when the box is loaded up. No RB would succeed in that circumstance. They had a couple screens for him but Dak took a sack and one and threw to Tolbert on another

They also put him in there when they are taking starting offensive linemen out.

When has Duece gotten carries behind the STARTING offensive linemen?

 

[Buzzbait]

Every time Luepke touches the ball, good things happen.

If something works, keep doing it.

I'd like to see Luepke get some more carries. Did see 1 play where they used him as a FB blocking for the RB, he made a couple key blocks for the RB and they got a decent gain out of the play.

 

[sacase]

They also put him in there when they are taking starting offensive linemen out.

When has Duece gotten carries behind the STARTING offensive linemen?

That series we had a quick 3 and out.....that was all Duece. He was with the starters. He's just not good.

 

[Runwildboys]

Turpin is making the most of his opportunities. It’s earning him more opportunities. I don’t think Vaughn is an NFL back. Unless he starts making some plays he won’t make the team next season. He could end up being released this season if he can’t make any plays when given opportunities. So far he’s been a wasted roster spot.

Turpin would probably have the same results, if they gave him the same plays they've given Deuce... except he may have fumbled.

 

[sbark]

I'd like to see Luepke get some more carries. Did see 1 play where they used him as a FB blocking for the RB, he made a couple key blocks for the RB and they got a decent gain out of the play.

From overhead view, can see On Luepke TD run, play was designed to go over LG. Great plant & cut for a 240# RB....
I imagine at that stage of game 2nd string O.Line in also.
The NFL is a 1cut plant a foot league with the speed of the players now, add in the hybrid S/LB

 

[KJJ]

Turpin would probably have the same results, if they gave him the same plays they've given Deuce... except he may have fumbled.

Turpin isn’t an RB. He can be utilized in many different ways, as a receiver, runner and returner. he’s made some plays with the opportunities he’s been given. Vaughn is an RB who has limitations. He’s not a blocker, which is one reason he doesn’t get many opportunities. McCarthy said during the summer that our RBs will have to take on a bigger role as blockers. Vaughn isn’t very effective running between the tackles. He’s not going to run over anyone and fall forward for a needed yard. He’s had 17 carries for only 33 yards averaging 1.9 a carry. So far he’s had almost as many negative carries as positive carries. He has to be used a certain way. His limitations are keeping him off the field and he’s going to have a tough time sticking with the team past this season.

 

[Runwildboys]

Turpin isn’t an RB. He can be utilized in many different ways, as a receiver, runner and returner. he’s made some plays with the opportunities he’s been given. Vaughn is an RB who has limitations. He’s not a blocker, which is one reason he doesn’t get many opportunities. McCarthy said during the summer that our RBs will have to take on a bigger role as blockers. Vaughn isn’t very effective running between the tackles. He’s not going to run over anyone and fall forward for a needed yard. He’s had 17 carries for only 33 yards averaging 1.9 a carry. So far he’s had almost as many negative carries as positive carries. He has to be used a certain way. His limitations are keeping him off the field and he’s going to have a tough time sticking with the team past this season.

He can be used in some of the same ways as Turpin, such as throwing to him in the flat, and it takes more to take him down, from what I've seen in the preseason. It's definitely a mistake to try to bull him up the middle without good blocking, but that's the same for most RBs. His negative yards are a product of poor blocking. He's being met in the backfield before he even has a chance to start running.

I'm not cheerleading for him, because I'm not sure how much he has to offer yet. I just think they've put him in bad positions so far. A lot of those plays up the middle should have gone to Luepke, IMO, because of his size.

 

[G2]

When the O line actually creates a lane, he's not explosive through it and can't break tackles. He just doesn't have the mass. Outside stuff is ok, but predictable.

 

[OmerV]

They need to use him like Turpin. Having him run right up the middle won't work in the NFL

He doesn't have Turpin's speed. He isn't just going to outrun people. He has to see holes, make cuts and make people miss.

 

[blueblood70]

Sorry but his style does not fit this offensive scheme at all.

Mike McCarthy is trying to bring back the offenses of the late 1980s and Vaughn is way out of place.

Deuce needs to be used in space.

No idea what Mike is thinking with how he is trying to utilize him.

I think he's trying to get his feet wet so to speak pun intended but really he should be using them like he's using kevonte Turpin that's my opinion so maybe there is some of that gonna come down the road right now he's just trying to get him into the offense in garbage time... I think he's got a lot more things he hasn't pulled out of his playbook yet and like I said I think deuce Vaughn is interchangeable with kevonte Turpin so Turpin right now is playing so well it's taken away from deuce vaughns development but that's fine we don't need a rookie to be great this year he could sit back and wait

he will get his shot.. So let's just calm down I don't think Mike McCarthy 's stupid I think he's literally just trying to get deuce some snaps wherever in all aspects now people see film on them it looks like we're using them like a regular running back whenever we pop out the plays we actually have for him could be a little bit of a surprise..

 

[KJJ]

He can be used in some of the same ways as Turpin, such as throwing to him in the flat, and it takes more to take him down, from what I've seen in the preseason. It's definitely a mistake to try to bull him up the middle without good blocking, but that's the same for most RBs. His negative yards are a product of poor blocking. He's being met in the backfield before he even has a chance to start running.

I'm not cheerleading for him, because I'm not sure how much he has to offer yet. I just think they've put him in bad positions so far. A lot of those plays up the middle should have gone to Luepke, IMO, because of his size.

Throwing him the ball in the flat would be the most effective way to use him. He needs some space to be effective. We could try a gadget play with him. His negative yards are due to no room and he can’t push piles or break tackles. We’ve seen Zeke with no room but he was able to push through for three or 4 yards. The bottom line is Vaughn is going to have to start making some plays with the opportunities he’s given, or he won’t be here past this season. The Cowboys obviously like what Turpin brings to the table more than they do Vaughn. They play different positions, and as I mentioned in my earlier post Vaughn has limitations. Some fans don’t think I like him because I’m being honest about him. So far he’s done even less than I thought he was going to do. I’m pulling for him, but in the long run I don’t think he’s going to pan out.

 

[cowboyed]

I am having some misgivings about Deuce Vaughn. In that game against Patriot defenders he looked like a flea bouncing off an elephant.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I think Vaughn is more useful in the passing/screen game than he is as a pure running back.

Whenever he’s in the game you almost have to run designed plays for him to justify him being on the field. He certainly doesn’t bring much as a pass blocker if you treat him as a normal RB and option out of plays.

I think he can be a useful role player but they have to use him correctly. Right now it feels like they are stubbornly trying to treat him as a normal RB.

 

[TheCoolFan]

Deuce Vaughn is the future of football and the Cowboys are just trying to get ahead of the curve. Prepare to see a lot of undersized 5'5" players in the next 10 years...maybe even smaller!