Devrey Henderson and Terrence Copper

[Bob Sacamano]

That must be how we have the 1'st rated passing offense

and yet you're behind us in scoring O, hmmm

 

[Who Dat]

Donte Stallworth was traded for Mark Simmineau (sp?) that should be a good indication of how average a starter he is, how are you liking Siminsomethin's average linebacker play? Quite a trade wasn't it.

The Saints are walking into a hornet's nest in the fact that Dallas is out to create separation between the first tier of teams and the rest, New Orleans highlights the rest I'll give 'em that much but Chicago and Dallas will be the team's off with a bye.

By all means beat Chicago, I think you can do it. The Saint defense is slightly less unspectacular than the Chicago offense so you'll matchup well.

Actually, we traded Stallworth for Simoneau and a 4'th round pick...that will turn to a 3'rd if they resign him. So I say in that case the trade has worked out well. Simoneau is starting and our defense is only giving up 25 more yards a game your your defense. And if you defense is everything you say it is, then I guess that is not so bad.

So to answer your original question, I believe Stallworth for a Starting LB and a 3'rd round pick was a pretty good deal.

 

[Aikbach]

Actually, we traded Stallworth for Simoneau and a 4'th round pick...that will turn to a 3'rd if they resign him. So I say in that case the trade has worked out well. Simoneau is starting and our defense is only giving up 25 more yards a game your your defense. And if you defense is everything you say it is, then I guess that is not so bad.

So to answer your original question, I believe Stallworth for a Starting LB and a 3'rd round pick was a pretty good deal.

Points are more important than yards. New Orleans has allowed craptastic teams to edge you or hang ten ala Tampa, Carolina.

 

[Who Dat]

no...

all teams need good receivers

now if you said that you didn't need Donte's attitude, then that's fine, just don't act like you're above keeping talented players

So saying that Drew Brees is a talented QB but you don't need him b/c you have Romo is a contradiction? I understand that you only start 1 QB and can start 2, 3, or 4 WR's but if we don't need what he specializes in, such as deep routes and rather a WR that can catch across the middle, how is that a contradiction?

 

[Who Dat]

Points are more important than yards. New Orleans has allowed craptastic teams to edge you or hang ten ala Tampa, Carolina.

Kind of like the Philly team that hung 38 on your D that we held to 24? Kind of like that?

 

[LowTech]

Henderson is a decent player. Although he should be at this point. Its his 3rd year. Plus most of his yards came against the Bucs, Bengals and Falcons.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

So saying that Drew Brees is a talented QB but you don't need him b/c you have Romo is a contradiction?

no, cuz what is contradicted if both are good QBS?

I understand that you only start 1 QB and can start 2, 3, or 4 WR's but if we don't need what he specializes in, such as deep routes and rather a WR that can catch across the middle, how is that a contradiction?

is not Devery Henderson a deep route WR? you guys traded Stallworth because he was injury-prone and had an attitude, that's it

and most likely because Philly came calling because they needed a WR

 

[Tuna Helper]

Kind of like the Philly team that hung 38 on your D that we held to 24? Kind of like that?

That is a bit misleading. Bledsoe drove the team down the field for a TD that would have tied the game at 31, and possible OT. Instead, he threw an INT in the red zone, and Philly returned it for a TD.

7 of the 38 points was hung on our offense, and another 7 was hung on our special teams when our punter botched a snap.

Bledsoe isn't playing anymore, and this team is on a 5-1 roll while facing a few tough opponents. What is the Saints' record over the past 6 games?

 

[LowTech]

Kind of like the Philly team that hung 38 on your D that we held to 24? Kind of like that?

One person was responsible for 180 of the 331 passing yards against that game. Rookie free safety Pat Watkins.....who is now riding pine. And lets see...Bledsoe gave the eagles 14 points.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

it's official, Saint fans know crap outside of their own team

or it's just a horrible attempt at smack-talking

 

[Tio]

Kind of like the Philly team that hung 38 on your D that we held to 24? Kind of like that

Ya....except if you look at the whole season, and not just one particular game that says what you want it to say, well....Your D shows to be below average.

Of course, even with your smoke and mirrors argument, you forget to mention that 14 of those 38 points are on the offense and special teams. Thats irrelevant however, since the 1 game argument is flawed from the beginning.

 

[LowTech]

it's official, Saint fans know crap outside of their own team

or it's just a horrible attempt at smack-talking

Facts hurt sometime.

 

[Who Dat]

That is a bit misleading. Bledsoe drove the team down the field for a TD that would have tied the game at 31, and possible OT. Instead, he threw an INT in the red zone, and Philly returned it for a TD.

7 of the 38 points was hung on our offense, and another 7 was hung on our special teams when our punter botched a snap.

Bledsoe isn't playing anymore, and this team is on a 5-1 roll while facing a few tough opponents. What is the Saints' record over the past 6 games?

I am sitting here trying to figure out how any of this is relevant?

What is the Saint's record the past 6 games? - What does this have to do with anything? Both of our records are 8-4 correct?

Teams intercept passes on your QB and teams score off of it? - Doesn't this happen to every team? Wouldn't that make that information objective?

Where are you going with this?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I am sitting here trying to figure out how any of this is relevant?

What is the Saint's record the past 6 games? - What does this have to do with anything? Both of our records are 8-4 correct?

it's relevant when in the last 6 games, we're 5 of 6, while you guys are...not so good

Teams intercept passes on your QB and teams score off of it? - Doesn't this happen to every team? Wouldn't that make that information objective?

Where are you going with this?

um, weren't you harping on Philly dropping 38 on our D? he explained why most of it wasn't on the D

what ye ask, ye shall receive

 

[Who Dat]

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Ya....except if you look at the whole season, and not just one particular game that says what you want it to say, well....Your D shows to be below average.

Of course, even with your smoke and mirrors argument, you forget to mention that 14 of those 38 points are on the offense and special teams. Thats irrelevant however, since the 1 game argument is flawed from the beginning.

Ok, that's fair. I'll give you that.

Here are the facts:

Dallas Defense is ranked 7’Th in the league currently.

New Orleans Defense is ranked 12’Th in the league currently.


Forget yardage or points allowed *as you have stated that this stat can be skewed by points off turnovers etc.*

The bottom line is you have a good D and we have a good D. But to say we have a below average D is reaching a bit isn't it. We are clearly in the top half of the league and only 5 behind you. How is that bad?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

How is that bad?

your rush D is atrocious

we're 7th in scoring D

you, 16th

 

[Tio]

Ok, that's fair. I'll give you that.

Here are the facts:

Dallas Defense is ranked 7’Th in the league currently.

New Orleans Defense is ranked 12’Th in the league currently.


Forget yardage or points allowed *as you have stated that this stat can be skewed by points off turnovers etc.*

The bottom line is you have a good D and we have a good D. But to say we have a below average D is reaching a bit isn't it. We are clearly in the top half of the league and only 5 behind you. How is that bad?

What system did you use to get you're D rankings?

 

[Who Dat]

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it's relevant when in the last 6 games, we're 5 of 6, while you guys are...not so good

Regardless, are we both 8-4? When a team misses out on the playoffs but won the last 6 games of the season, do the last 6 games mean anything...besides a worse draft position?

 

[Who Dat]

your rush D is atrocious

we're 7th in scoring D

you, 16th

Yea, your right.But...... 4'th in the league in pass yards given up is pretty bad. Unless you compare it to the 12'th ranked Cowboys pass defense.

Overall Defense your 7'th and were 12'th. Not much difference overall, correct?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

we've forced 26 TOs on D

you, 14