Dez Bryant and Randy Moss? No comparison coach says

[utrunner07]

Tony Hill and Drew Pearson really?

I could understand Irvin and Hayes, but Pearson and Hill's are pretty mediocre compare to TO's.

You have got to be trolling....

 

[DallasDomination]

Irvin, Harper, Hays, Pearson, Tony Hill

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on some of these guys because they are before my time. But in what world is Harper better then owens?

 

[Anjinsan]

Tony Hill and Drew Pearson really?

I could understand Irvin and Hayes, but Pearson and Hill's are pretty mediocre compare to TO's.

Top 29 All Time


ReceivingGlossary · ProBowl(*), 1st-team All-Pro(+), · CSV · PRE
Rk From To G Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Fmb
1 Michael Irvin 1988 1999 159 750 11904 15.9 65 87 4.7 74.9 7
2 Jason Witten 2003 2009 111 523 5965 11.4 27 69 4.7 53.7 3
3 Drew Pearson 1973 1983 156 489 7822 16.0 48 67 3.1 50.1 9
4 Emmitt Smith 1990 2002 201 486 3012 6.2 11 86 2.4 15.0 55
5 Tony Hill 1977 1986 141 479 7988 16.7 51 75 3.4 56.7 7
6 Tony Dorsett 1977 1987 157 382 3432 9.0 13 91 2.4 21.9 84
7 Bob Hayes 1965 1974 128 365 7295 20.0 71 95 2.9 57.0 17
8 Jay Novacek 1990 1995 95 339 3576 10.5 22 49 3.6 37.6 8
9 Doug Cosbie 1979 1988 144 300 3728 12.4 30 61 2.1 25.9 5
10 Daryl Johnston 1989 1999 151 294 2227 7.6 14 28 1.9 14.7 10
11 Frank Clarke 1960 1967 104 281 5214 18.6 50 80 2.7 50.1 9
12 Billy Joe DuPree 1973 1983 159 267 3565 13.4 41 42 1.7 22.4 9
13 Kelvin Martin 1987 1996 98 237 3083 13.0 9 60 2.4 31.5 10
14 Terrell Owens 2006 2008 47 235 3587 15.3 38 75 5.0 76.3 1
15 Herschel Walker 1986 1997 81 232 2556 11.0 8 84 2.9 31.6 17
16 Ron Springs 1979 1984 88 222 2028 9.1 10 80 2.5 23.0 13
17 Timmy Newsome 1980 1988 106 212 1966 9.3 11 52 2.0 18.5 10
18 Terry Glenn 2003 2006 53 208 3337 16.0 20 71 3.9 63.0 2
19 Patrick Crayton 2004 2009 82 196 2888 14.7 23 80 2.4 35.2 11
20 Preston Pearson 1975 1980 79 189 2274 12.0 11 49 2.4 28.8 3
21 Lance Rentzel 1967 1970 53 183 3521 19.2 31 86 3.5 66.4 4
22 Walt Garrison 1966 1974 119 182 1794 9.9 9 53 1.5 15.1 26
23 Marion Barber 2005 2009 75 163 1231 7.6 6 70 2.2 16.4 15
24 Mike Renfro 1984 1987 58 163 2525 15.5 17 60 2.8 43.5 4
25 Billy Howton 1960 1963 50 161 2368 14.7 17 69 3.2 47.4 1
26 Rocket Ismail 1999 2001 39 158 2281 14.4 9 80 4.1 58.5 2
27 Joey Galloway 2000 2003 48 151 2341 15.5 12 80 3.1 48.8 4
28 Don Perkins 1961 1968 107 146 1310 9.0 3 39 1.4 12.2 18
29 Keyshawn Johnson 2004 2005 32 141 1820 12.9 12 39 4.4 56.9 4

 

[utrunner07]

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on some of these guys because they are before my time. But in what world is Harper better then owens?

The real world baby.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Top 29 All Time


ReceivingGlossary · ProBowl(*), 1st-team All-Pro(+), · CSV · PRE
Rk From To G Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Fmb
1 Michael Irvin 1988 1999 159 750 11904 15.9 65 87 4.7 74.9 7
2 Jason Witten 2003 2009 111 523 5965 11.4 27 69 4.7 53.7 3
3 Drew Pearson 1973 1983 156 489 7822 16.0 48 67 3.1 50.1 9
4 Emmitt Smith 1990 2002 201 486 3012 6.2 11 86 2.4 15.0 55
5 Tony Hill 1977 1986 141 479 7988 16.7 51 75 3.4 56.7 7
6 Tony Dorsett 1977 1987 157 382 3432 9.0 13 91 2.4 21.9 84
7 Bob Hayes 1965 1974 128 365 7295 20.0 71 95 2.9 57.0 17
8 Jay Novacek 1990 1995 95 339 3576 10.5 22 49 3.6 37.6 8
9 Doug Cosbie 1979 1988 144 300 3728 12.4 30 61 2.1 25.9 5
10 Daryl Johnston 1989 1999 151 294 2227 7.6 14 28 1.9 14.7 10
11 Frank Clarke 1960 1967 104 281 5214 18.6 50 80 2.7 50.1 9
12 Billy Joe DuPree 1973 1983 159 267 3565 13.4 41 42 1.7 22.4 9
13 Kelvin Martin 1987 1996 98 237 3083 13.0 9 60 2.4 31.5 10
14 Terrell Owens 2006 2008 47 235 3587 15.3 38 75 5.0 76.3 1
15 Herschel Walker 1986 1997 81 232 2556 11.0 8 84 2.9 31.6 17
16 Ron Springs 1979 1984 88 222 2028 9.1 10 80 2.5 23.0 13
17 Timmy Newsome 1980 1988 106 212 1966 9.3 11 52 2.0 18.5 10
18 Terry Glenn 2003 2006 53 208 3337 16.0 20 71 3.9 63.0 2
19 Patrick Crayton 2004 2009 82 196 2888 14.7 23 80 2.4 35.2 11
20 Preston Pearson 1975 1980 79 189 2274 12.0 11 49 2.4 28.8 3
21 Lance Rentzel 1967 1970 53 183 3521 19.2 31 86 3.5 66.4 4
22 Walt Garrison 1966 1974 119 182 1794 9.9 9 53 1.5 15.1 26
23 Marion Barber 2005 2009 75 163 1231 7.6 6 70 2.2 16.4 15
24 Mike Renfro 1984 1987 58 163 2525 15.5 17 60 2.8 43.5 4
25 Billy Howton 1960 1963 50 161 2368 14.7 17 69 3.2 47.4 1
26 Rocket Ismail 1999 2001 39 158 2281 14.4 9 80 4.1 58.5 2
27 Joey Galloway 2000 2003 48 151 2341 15.5 12 80 3.1 48.8 4
28 Don Perkins 1961 1968 107 146 1310 9.0 3 39 1.4 12.2 18
29 Keyshawn Johnson 2004 2005 32 141 1820 12.9 12 39 4.4 56.9 4

 

[utrunner07]

CowboyJoe at his draft board during a long past draft.

 

[CATCH17]

Bryant is a more explosive Boldin is what he is.

 

[Kangaroo]

I never knew that! I'd bet anything that was a financial decision. Wild Wild West probably had a bigger budget than the Matrix. Especially for the talent.

Nope he said in the interview that when it was presented to him he did not get the whole story line and stuff and stuff he just did not think it was a good concept at the time

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Bryant is a more explosive Boldin is what he is.

You had to have a unique comparison didnt you?

Hes actually like James Hardy but shorter, stronger, and gooder

 

[Hostile]

Tony Hill and Drew Pearson really?

I could understand Irvin and Hayes, but Pearson and Hill's are pretty mediocre compare to TO's.

They are 2 different generations of football. Offensive stats for passing are bloated by this current brand of football. TO would have sucked playing in the 70's and 80's when those guys did. All the proof you need is how he disappeared against physical CBs. In that era all the CBs were physical. They were allowed to hit the WRs beyond 5 yards and they could muscle them around.

TO would have been worthless.

 

[Anjinsan]

Bryant is a more explosive Boldin is what he is.

I saw most of the practices Bryant was in before he hurt his ankle. Barring injuries and he keeps his head on straight, the guy is definitely going to be good. But as of this moment, the guy has 0 skins on the wall. You cannot even consider him in the context of this argument. As Jesse Jackson would say, "The point is moot."

 

[laythewood28]

Top 29 All Time


ReceivingGlossary · ProBowl(*), 1st-team All-Pro(+), · CSV · PRE
Rk From To G Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Fmb
1 Michael Irvin 1988 1999 159 750 11904 15.9 65 87 4.7 74.9 7
2 Jason Witten 2003 2009 111 523 5965 11.4 27 69 4.7 53.7 3
3 Drew Pearson 1973 1983 156 489 7822 16.0 48 67 3.1 50.1 9
4 Emmitt Smith 1990 2002 201 486 3012 6.2 11 86 2.4 15.0 55
5 Tony Hill 1977 1986 141 479 7988 16.7 51 75 3.4 56.7 7
6 Tony Dorsett 1977 1987 157 382 3432 9.0 13 91 2.4 21.9 84
7 Bob Hayes 1965 1974 128 365 7295 20.0 71 95 2.9 57.0 17
8 Jay Novacek 1990 1995 95 339 3576 10.5 22 49 3.6 37.6 8
9 Doug Cosbie 1979 1988 144 300 3728 12.4 30 61 2.1 25.9 5
10 Daryl Johnston 1989 1999 151 294 2227 7.6 14 28 1.9 14.7 10
11 Frank Clarke 1960 1967 104 281 5214 18.6 50 80 2.7 50.1 9
12 Billy Joe DuPree 1973 1983 159 267 3565 13.4 41 42 1.7 22.4 9
13 Kelvin Martin 1987 1996 98 237 3083 13.0 9 60 2.4 31.5 10
14 Terrell Owens 2006 2008 47 235 3587 15.3 38 75 5.0 76.3 1
15 Herschel Walker 1986 1997 81 232 2556 11.0 8 84 2.9 31.6 17
16 Ron Springs 1979 1984 88 222 2028 9.1 10 80 2.5 23.0 13
17 Timmy Newsome 1980 1988 106 212 1966 9.3 11 52 2.0 18.5 10
18 Terry Glenn 2003 2006 53 208 3337 16.0 20 71 3.9 63.0 2
19 Patrick Crayton 2004 2009 82 196 2888 14.7 23 80 2.4 35.2 11
20 Preston Pearson 1975 1980 79 189 2274 12.0 11 49 2.4 28.8 3
21 Lance Rentzel 1967 1970 53 183 3521 19.2 31 86 3.5 66.4 4
22 Walt Garrison 1966 1974 119 182 1794 9.9 9 53 1.5 15.1 26
23 Marion Barber 2005 2009 75 163 1231 7.6 6 70 2.2 16.4 15
24 Mike Renfro 1984 1987 58 163 2525 15.5 17 60 2.8 43.5 4
25 Billy Howton 1960 1963 50 161 2368 14.7 17 69 3.2 47.4 1
26 Rocket Ismail 1999 2001 39 158 2281 14.4 9 80 4.1 58.5 2
27 Joey Galloway 2000 2003 48 151 2341 15.5 12 80 3.1 48.8 4
28 Don Perkins 1961 1968 107 146 1310 9.0 3 39 1.4 12.2 18
29 Keyshawn Johnson 2004 2005 32 141 1820 12.9 12 39 4.4 56.9 4

That proves nothing. Most of these guys had longer tenures in Dallas putting them higher on the list. My original argument is who had a better three year run than TO. I doubt that their is five guys. I'm pretty sure If I pulled up TO's career stats And they would blow most of them out the water.

 

[Hostile]

I saw most of the practices Bryant was in before he hurt his ankle. Barring injuries and he keeps his head on straight, the guy is definitely going to be good. But as of this moment, the guy has 0 skins on the wall. You cannot even consider him in the context of this argument. As Jesse Jackson would say, "The point is moot."

I don't agree with this. Neither does Jesse Jackson. I agree with Jesse when he said at Len Bias' funeral that Len would have changed the NBA. He never played a game. He had no skins on the wall. He would have changed the game.

 

[utrunner07]

pretty sure If I pulled up TO's career stats And they would blow most of them out the water.

Only if this was in some bizzaro world where stats could pack.

 

[laythewood28]

They are 2 different generations of football. Offensive stats for passing are bloated by this current brand of football. TO would have sucked playing in the 70's and 80's when those guys did. All the proof you need is how he disappeared against physical CBs. In that era all the CBs were physical. They were allowed to hit the WRs beyond 5 yards and they could muscle them around.

TO would have been worthless.

Thats a fair argument. Again I can't stand the ***** but I have to give credit to where credit is due.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

They are 2 different generations of football. Offensive stats for passing are bloated by this current brand of football. TO would have sucked playing in the 70's and 80's when those guys did. All the proof you need is how he disappeared against physical CBs. In that era all the CBs were physical. They were allowed to hit the WRs beyond 5 yards and they could muscle them around.

TO would have been worthless.

Come on. I dont like TO, especially the watered down version we got, but he would make tons of p lays agaisnt those guys.

Ive seen him catch it right in front of Champ Bailey and shake him to go untouched 80 yards for a TD. Ive seen him blow countless corners his whole career.

Yes hes soft, yes hed rather be in the NBA, but he was still beastly

 

[DallasDomination]

Heck, Kelvin Martin caught more passes than "The Cancer". T.O. was a joke and an embarrassment to the Cowboys.

In ten seasons Kelvin Martin had 1 more catch then owens did in 3 season with the Cowboys.

I'm sorry but who besides the great Irvin had better stats then owens?

Only irvin had a better 3 season span then owens. And since stats are not everything I agree some legends like Hays and Pearson and Hill. But Martin and harper? Give me a break.

respect what Owens has done.

 

[Hostile]

Thats a fair argument. Again I can't stand the ***** but I have to give credit to where credit is due.

As will I. But I will not put blinders on and pretend he could play in any era. Those guys could have. You don't think Tony Hill wouldn't have thrived having CBs away from him? Oh, he would have been crazy to watch and he wasn't as dangerous as Drew was.

Lance Rentzel and Lance Allworth both in today's offenses would have thrived.

Bob Hayes would have been all everything. No one could have stopped him without mugging.

 

[Bleu Star]

I recall the same fervor over Randy Moss when he entered the league out of Marshall. I remember watching him light it up at Marshall. He truly looked like a man among boys... Dez reminds me of the same. However, I think he will prove to be even better when it's all said done.

Signed,

 

[Anjinsan]

That proves nothing. Most of these guys had longer tenures in Dallas putting them higher on the list. My original argument is who had a better three year run than TO. I doubt that their is five guys. I'm pretty sure If I pulled up TO's career stats And they would blow most of them out the water.

Who had a better 3 years? There's no such category? There's career and single season stats. Even single year receptions The Cancer was only 7th. Even 3 years you can't argue he's one of the top 5 all-time best because of what he did to the team his last year. His name should not even be mentioned in any type of "All Time" category unless you're talking All Time Worse Receivers single game or career, T.O. was #1. Name me a wide receiver worse?