Dez Contract Speculations

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The whole league is reevaluating what a wide receiver's value is worth. None of the big names have been signed.

Teams keep winning without them, and elite receivers aren't winning championships.

Exactly.
 

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Calvin Johnson's deal just about knocked the earth off it's axis. Hopefully these 4 big name WR's can get everything back closer to where they should be.

I'd love to see one of the settle for $12 mil per year.

That would start the ball rolling.
 

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Calvin Johnson's deal just about knocked the earth off it's axis. Hopefully these 4 big name WR's can get everything back closer to where they should be.

I'd love to see one of the settle for $12 mil per year.

That would start the ball rolling.

CJohnson was a fluke that won't happen again. He was one of the last players to get a rookie deal under the old terms.

His rookie deal was for 6/55m. His 2012 salary was a scheduled 14m with a 21m cap hit.

To franchise tag him it would've cost 21m for one year and 26m the next. That is 47m for 2 years.

When they signed him to an 7/113m deal with 48m guaranteed they got a relative bargain at 16m APY and 5 more years of contract rights.

Dez is due 13m and 15m or 28m total. That would put a 7/91m with 28m guaranteed in play as a comparison
 

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CJohnson was a fluke that won't happen again. He was one of the last players to get a rookie deal under the old terms.

His rookie deal was for 6/55m. His 2012 salary was a scheduled 14m with a 21m cap hit.

To franchise tag him it would've cost 21m for one year and 26m the next. That is 47m for 2 years.

When they signed him to an 7/113m deal with 48m guaranteed they got a relative bargain at 16m APY and 5 more years of contract rights.

Dez is due 13m and 15m or 28m total. That would put a 7/91m with 28m guaranteed in play as a comparison

Yeah, I can see those numbers 7/91 as being in the ballpark of a realistic agreement for a guy of his talent. That's $13 mil per season on average.
 

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CJohnson was a fluke that won't happen again. He was one of the last players to get a rookie deal under the old terms.

His rookie deal was for 6/55m. His 2012 salary was a scheduled 14m with a 21m cap hit.

To franchise tag him it would've cost 21m for one year and 26m the next. That is 47m for 2 years.

When they signed him to an 7/113m deal with 48m guaranteed they got a relative bargain at 16m APY and 5 more years of contract rights.

Dez is due 13m and 15m or 28m total. That would put a 7/91m with 28m guaranteed in play as a comparison

Good post about how they ended up paying him way over the normal franchise tag.

Normally, even the best players at a position should only get slightly over the Franchise Tag as an annual average, but they gave him a contract that averages 16M when the Tag in 2012 was only 9.4M. You really have to look at the specifics of the situation for that contract to make any sense.
 

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dez did him self no favors when he changed agents when they had a deal almost done im not sure what this is about but the cowboys are not going to pay him calvin Johnson money they wouldn't pay murray and they wont pay dez. if he holds out like he says that means he will miss training camp and games the cowboys and dez will both move on at that point

They did not pay Murray, and won't pay Dez. think about what you just said. that is not a way to win championships. Guys like Romo and Witten can't be happy about this. their window is about to close. and the cowboys refuse to give their help long term deals. not going to work. they should have paid Murray. and they should pay Dez. both should have gotten long term deals.
 

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They did not pay Murray, and won't pay Dez. think about what you just said. that is not a way to win championships. Guys like Romo and Witten can't be happy about this. their window is about to close. and the cowboys refuse to give their help long term deals. not going to work. they should have paid Murray. and they should pay Dez. both should have gotten long term deals.

yeah should have kept both, sign dez and franchise murray.
I think 14 mil a year is the most dez is worth.
Thing is he wants to be unsupervised now, and give him 12 mil in the bank, will he stay on track on get in trouble??
If the cowboys are going to make a big longterm investment in him they want him to be supervised, and that is one of the key reasons
for no contract yet.
 

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When are you guys going to get it ? i keep telling you if you keep Dez on a franchise tag, you may not get the same Dez you have seen.he knows that if he gets hurt only one year is Guaranteed. so he is going to do everything in his power to not get hurt. he knows if he gets hurt, he will lose millions of dollars. some of you guys have got to wake up. if the cowboys have no Dez the first 2 games against the Giants and Philly. the cowboys are going to be 0 and 2 for the year. and 0 and 2 in the division. then it's to late to pay him, because the season may well be over. PAY THIS MAN. GIVE HIM A LONG TERM DEAL.

Like fake an injury?
 

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I do what the guy on LANDRY HAT says

Six years, worth $65 million and $35M in guaranteed money. That’s more than everyone else but Megatron. If Bryant balks at that, then you can play hardball all you like.
 

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Much depends upon the willingness of both sides to compromise on the compensation amount. If one or both are unwilling to do so, it's conceivable that the franchise fee could come into play. Hopefully, they'll resolve it.
 
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