DFW Sportsbeat - Looks like Marty B and MBIII will be traded if...

[Gaede]

What team has ever drafted a TE to play 4-5 years down the road?

I'd just have to guess that the answer is: No team.

Guess how long Martellus contract is........

4 years. So Dallas can get that one last year out of him on a tender and then he takes off for greener, most likely Silver & Black pastures or whichever team decides to pay him the moon.

I'm sorry but I just don't think the guy is worth waiting around until Witten "potentially" cannot cut it.

Jason Witten doesn't miss time. He plays through injury and unless he loses a limb, he will be on the field. His game is not based on speed or any sort of super athleticism. He is an intelligent technician and you don't lose brains or technique. Barring something unforeseen, I don't know why he couldn't play until he was as old as Gonzo.

Picking up another high pick in this draft would go a lot further than sitting on thumbs waiting for one of the Wayans brothers to finally graduate in life.

Amen

 

[Randy White]

Don't really see a HOF quality player in front of any of those guys. One of Bennett's biggest limitations is that he plays behind Witten. As long as Witten is around, Bennett will be limited in what he can produce. I think Bennett jumps at the highest bidder when his contract is up anyhow.

That's a good point, but let's wait a little bit more before making a decision like that.

For all we know, he could be the #1 TE by the end of training camp, although I hope not.

 

[thssanders]

I would like a 4th for barber, but honestly, i wouldn't mind trading him for a fifth. He was TERRIBLE in short yardage situations last year. Say what you want about blocking at times. If you don't get hit a yard or two behind the line of scrimmage, you should be able to stick it in the endzone (San Diego game). He got no push at all. He's not the same power player he used to be for some reason.

As for bennet, why not trade him. Witten's not going anywhere so the value in return (if its a 2nd) is much higher than what bennet will give you. That pick should develop into a solid starter. We don't need that from bennet because of witten. And we already have a solid backup TE in Phillips

 

[Section446]

That's a good point, but let's wait a little bit more before making a decision like that.

For all we know, he could be the #1 TE by the end of training camp, although I hope not.

Does Witten get hurt or does he just beat Witten out for the #1 job?

 

[Hoofbite]

I actually wouldn't take anything less than a 3rd for Barber. I still think he has use and would hate to ditch him for peanuts.

 

[thssanders]

I actually wouldn't take anything less than a 3rd for Barber. I still think he has use and would hate to ditch him for peanuts.

Runningbacks are a dime a dozen nowadays. Especially when you are talking about a backup.

 

[Gaede]

I actually wouldn't take anything less than a 3rd for Barber. I still think he has use and would hate to ditch him for peanuts.

I agree; he could still do a lot for this team...and one bad season does not a career make......

 

[TheSport78]

I had a very vivid dream that we traded Martellus Bennett to New England somewhere in the 2nd round.

 

[Gzus]

That's a good point, but let's wait a little bit more before making a decision like that.

For all we know, he could be the #1 TE by the end of training camp, although I hope not.

The only way Bennett becomes the #1 TE is if Witten gets injured, and even then he'd have to beat out John Phillips.

 

[Cowboysfan570]

What team has ever drafted a TE to play 4-5 years down the road?

I'd just have to guess that the answer is: No team.

Guess how long Martellus contract is........

4 years. So Dallas can get that one last year out of him on a tender and then he takes off for greener, most likely Silver & Black pastures or whichever team decides to pay him the moon.

I'm sorry but I just don't think the guy is worth waiting around until Witten "potentially" cannot cut it.

Jason Witten doesn't miss time. He plays through injury and unless he loses a limb, he will be on the field. His game is not based on speed or any sort of super athleticism. He is an intelligent technician and you don't lose brains or technique. Barring something unforeseen, I don't know why he couldn't play until he was as old as Gonzo.

Picking up another high pick in this draft would go a lot further than sitting on thumbs waiting for one of the Wayans brothers to finally graduate in life.

Hes playing and developing now and is already one of the leagues best blockers at TE, run or pass. We know he can be a weapon on the pass and hes costing us all of $470,000 this year.

Get a grip.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Ill take a 5th for Barber, 4th would be better but honestly, we don't really need three backs, and Barber is the low man, unfortunately becuase I really really liked his work ethic and style. We all said several years ago that becuase of his running style he would have a shorter career. Getting a 5th out of him this year will be better than waiting till next year and getting a 6th or nothing.

Neither a 5th nor a 6th is palatable. Might as well just get a used football, that would be worth as much.

 

[Gzus]

Neither a 5th nor a 6th is palatable. Might as well just get a used football, that would be worth as much.

I would have to agree, it'd suck to get only a 5th or 6th for Barber. We might have to settle for it though. I'd much rather get a 4th or even a 3rd if possible.

 

[Hoofbite]

Hes playing and developing now and is already one of the leagues best blockers at TE, run or pass. We know he can be a weapon on the pass and hes costing us all of $470,000 this year.

Get a grip.

Who said he wasn't doing any of that?

All I said was he will never be the godly producer that people hope because he is playing second fiddle and when it comes time for his contract to be re-upped, he'll jump at the highest bidder.

What are you talking about?

 

[Cowboysfan570]

Who said he wasn't doing any of that?

All I said was he will never be the godly producer that people hope because he is playing second fiddle and when it comes time for his contract to be re-upped, he'll jump at the highest bidder.

What are you talking about?

I'm talking about the hare-brained idea of trading a guy who you selected with a 2nd round pick who has all the potential in the world (and who is already an asset) for another second round pick.

It's stupid. It would be flipping a second round draft pick with two years on the roster for a second round pick who may or may not amount to much, but almost certainly wouldn't have the upside that Bennett does.

Do you think we're going to draft an elite o-line player in the second, or an elite safety? I don't. Martellus Bennett is contributing enough now to justify his roster spot and if he continues to develop and we decide to trade him, then we may get more for him and in the meantime we only owe him another 1.5 million or so on his entire contract which is well worth it for his production.

Wouldn't that be worth the time? Trading a well above average second round player for a second round pick and leaving a hole to fill with another draft pick in the process doesn't make any sense at all. I'll repeat: it's stupid. It essentially costs us a pick, makes us a lot worse in that position, and isn't even likely to save any money.

 

[Hoofbite]

I'm talking about the hare-brained idea of trading a guy who you selected with a 2nd round pick who has all the potential in the world (and who is already an asset) for another second round pick.

It's stupid. It would be flipping a second round draft pick with two years on the roster for a second round pick who may or may not amount to much, but almost certainly wouldn't have the upside that Bennett does.

Do you think we're going to draft an elite o-line player in the second, or an elite safety? I don't. Martellus Bennett is contributing enough now to justify his roster spot and if he continues to develop and we decide to trade him, then we may get more for him and in the meantime we only owe him another 1.5 million or so on his entire contract which is well worth it for his production.

Wouldn't that be worth the time? Trading a well above average second round player for a second round pick and leaving a hole to fill with another draft pick in the process doesn't make any sense at all. I'll repeat: it's stupid.

I guess I'm just not enamored with upside.

And again, upside doesn't amount to a whole lot when you are the #2 TE. He will not even have the chance to maximize his potential until Witten is gone. That's all there is to it. He could sign a 10 year contract and if Witten is in front of him the whole time, he won't realize all this potential he has.

And I disagree. Getting a 2nd for a guy who plays a secondary role and can be replace by the 3rd TE on the roster is not stupid. Imagine if Dallas could turn that 2nd rounder into a guy like McCluster. Running, receiving, kick returns and even punt returns would all get a boost.

Bennett has a world of potential. We all know that. What he costs at this point is irrelevant because I don't really care what any player costs as long as it fits in the cap.

What he costs in the future is relevant in so far as how it effects where he signs. If he prices himself in only Oakland's territory, he'll be gone. I don't believe for a second that football is what he truly cares about. I believe it was Portis who said "my pockets are straight". That's MartyB. The dude doesn't treat the game like it's a passion. It's his 9-5. Not a whole lot wrong with that other than you don't get the commitment to be great that you would get if he truly loved the game.

Potential is nothing, performance is everything.

Give me a player at a position of need over a luxury 2nd string TE.

I don't care how much less potential one has over the other. One might not have the "potential" but get everything out of what he has and contribute in a number of ways and the other might have potential but waste it by partaking in masterpieces of cinematography such as "black olympics".

 

[Beast_from_East]

I'm talking about the hare-brained idea of trading a guy who you selected with a 2nd round pick who has all the potential in the world (and who is already an asset) for another second round pick.

It's stupid. It would be flipping a second round draft pick with two years on the roster for a second round pick who may or may not amount to much, but almost certainly wouldn't have the upside that Bennett does.

Do you think we're going to draft an elite o-line player in the second, or an elite safety? I don't. Martellus Bennett is contributing enough now to justify his roster spot and if he continues to develop and we decide to trade him, then we may get more for him and in the meantime we only owe him another 1.5 million or so on his entire contract which is well worth it for his production.

Wouldn't that be worth the time? Trading a well above average second round player for a second round pick and leaving a hole to fill with another draft pick in the process doesn't make any sense at all. I'll repeat: it's stupid. It essentially costs us a pick, makes us a lot worse in that position, and isn't even likely to save any money.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Thats the last time I trust Brady Tinker