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5Stars;1557736 said:You think Vick should play this season?
I don't really care, it's none of my business.
5Stars;1557736 said:You think Vick should play this season?
InmanRoshi;1557647 said:Exactly what did you expect him to say? Our players stick by TO when he swallows a bottle of pain pills and complains about not getting the ball after games where he's dropped half his passes. That's what players do.
baj1dallas;1557748 said:I don't really care, it's none of my business.
baj1dallas;1557732 said:I agree. Everybody was soooooooo sure those Duke players were guilty too...but nobody every had to admit being wrong there, eh?
baj1dallas;1557732 said:I agree. Everybody was soooooooo sure those Duke players were guilty too...but nobody every had to admit being wrong there, eh?
I'm not so sure if everybody was convinced that the Duke players were guilty. From what I remember, from the start, there was some doubts about strippers' story and questions about DA's handling of the case.baj1dallas;1557732 said:I agree. Everybody was soooooooo sure those Duke players were guilty too...but nobody every had to admit being wrong there, eh?
ABQCOWBOY;1557667 said:What's funny to me is that Joe Horn has been a teammate of Vicks for exactly zero seasons. He's just been signed. Seems odd that he would be the lone voice of reason in Falcon land.
The point about being allowed to remain around teammates - I think it is an interesting issue.sago1;1558111 said:I heard Joe Horn's comments as well. Now let me see, he said something like not playing wouldn't be good for Vick nor the Falcons. What kind of world does Horn live in? So we all should only be concerned about that and not about what indictment charges is Vick's involvement in dogfighting with an amazing amount of detail and viciousness towards his dogs, the gambling, etc.
Horn feels Vick needs to be around his teammates to help/see him thru this mess. Well Vick has been around those teammates since he was drafted in 01& those teammates have sure helped him a lot so far. Another year or 2 with those teammates and Vick will move up (or down depending on your views) to robbing banks, etc.
This problem has moved beyond Vick and the NFL to a societal problem and why so called civilized people think dogfighting to the death or the killing of the losing dog sometimes as part of the ritual is okay. Some equate it to horse racing (not many horses are locked inside an arena and fight another horse to the death by biting and scratching, etc.)
I don't expect NFL players to have my sense of morality but I certainly think it's right to expect them to stay within the law. Vick's problem will only become greater when the trial starts and people can watch (better believe this will be televised unless court forbids it) the proceedings in all its equisite detail. The revulsion will really get worse. I understand from a criminal defense attorney interviewed on ESPN yesterday that the Feds have 2 witnesses who cooperating against Vick and there's a whole lot more details not included in the indictment.
Well at least I don't have to watch ESPN to get football news. I can get Vick coverage on CNN and its wide world audience, FOX & even MSNBC. Hm. Maybe I'll go read the British and other country papers to see what they think of Vick and the violence of American society which so many countries now cite as reason they don't want to be like us and adopt our so called values.
The willie roaf thing isnt even true, it was joe johnson who was nailing roafs wife and the grapevine got it twisted somewhere alnong the way.stasheroo;1557651 said:Read up on Joe Horn - he's a real 'role model' himself.
Or ask Willie Roaf about it......
That speaks volumns to me. The face of the franchise getting no love from any of his teammates. Not hard to read between those lines.Sarge;1558124 said:I don't see any other Falcon players rushing to support the loser.
actually http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2002/0128/1319126.htmlstasheroo;1557651 said:Read up on Joe Horn - he's a real 'role model' himself.
Or ask Willie Roaf about it......