Did Dallas miss out? Giants sign OL Shawn Andrews

[mldardy]

I have been screaming for us to get Andrews since this summer. we had nothing to lose by doing it. if he didn't work out, so be it. but he was worth taking a chance on. our GM Jerry Jones, just does not get it. and Andrews is only 27 years old. Hats off to the Giants. good move by them.

It's only a good move if it works.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

FOR THE LAST TIME. we had nothing to lose. if we had him come in and he did not work out. what have we lost? NOTHING! Jerry was dumb not to bring him in.

You had money to lose and a roster spot for someone else to lose.

There is not a situation of bringing a player in where you have nothing to lose.

And if you feel that what you have on your roster currently is better than taking a chance on someone with a bad back and mental issues...you would also lose time that you would waste on said player.

You don't sign someone just for the sake of signing them.

 

[cowboyvic]

It's only a good move if it works.

Again, if it does not work, what have they lost? THEY HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE.

 

[john van brocklin]

I have been screaming for us to get Andrews since this summer. we had nothing to lose by doing it. if he didn't work out, so be it. but he was worth taking a chance on. our GM Jerry Jones, just does not get it. and Andrews is only 27 years old. Hats off to the Giants. good move by them.

What he said !

 

[john van brocklin]

Again, if it does not work, what have they lost? THEY HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE.

What he said , redux !

 

[cowboyvic]

You had money to lose and a roster spot for someone else to lose.

There is not a situation of bringing a player in where you have nothing to lose.

And if you feel that what you have on your roster currently is better than taking a chance on someone with a bad back and mental issues...you would also lose time that you would waste on said player.

You don't sign someone just for the sake of signing them.

Nonesense! you bring him in and let him fight for a job. dont tell me we dont have room for him because he may have taken a roster spot from Bright, Costa or Mcquiston. that's silly. we had nothing to lose.

 

[Stash]

You give them credit for signing someone with a bad back and mental issues who has been out of football for 2 years instead of having someone on their roster already who can step in and do the job? Sounds like they have zero depth or don't trust the depth they have.


Interesting.

Credit for taking a look at a former Pro Bowler once-considered the league's best young guard. A look that cost them nothing.

People complain about the cowboys not getting depth, but at least we have some guys they are willing to give a try.

Yeah, like Pat McQuistan. A for effort, there Pat! Too bad that he can't actually play but he gives it his best shot.

Complain about us not getting Oline in the draft while the Giants last year and this seem to have concentrated on Dline.
Yet we give credit to them for trying?

The Giants got William Beatty last year, a player who looks to be their left tackle of the future. We get Jason Williams and Robert Brewster, neither of whom is a lock to even make the team, much less contribute - advantage Giants.

 

[T-RO]

One rumor claims Stephen was trying to get a hold of Jerry to make a late night deal.

Jerry insists he was asleep and didn't hear the call... around 1:00 AM in the morning.

But family members say Jerry wasn't at home in bed.

 

[InmanRoshi]

As others have stated, it's hard to be sanctimonious about lazy fat tubs of goo when you have Montrae Holland on the roster. And unlike Holland, Andrews could actually back up right tackle too.

 

[T-RO]

You don't sign someone just for the sake of signing them.

Uh...he was a two-time pro-bowler, right?

It's a risk-reward proposition.

But given both the back problems and the mental problems I can't be very critical of the Cowboys for passing.

Bottom line: We fans don't have enough medical or personnel information to critique the deal, one way or the other.

 

[Stash]

Uh...he was a two-time pro-bowler, right?

It's a risk-reward proposition.

But given both the back problems and the mental problems I can't be very critical of the Cowboys for passing.

Bottom line: We fans don't have enough medical or personnel information to critique the deal, one way or the other.

But what we can do is give credit to the Giants for at least taking a look. If it works out, great for them. If it doesn't, it didn't cost them anything.

Low-risk, high reward.

 

[cowboyvic]

But what we can do is give credit to the Giants for at least taking a look. If it works out, great for them. If it doesn't, it didn't cost them anything.

Low-risk, high reward.

Bingo. Right on the money. this is why i have a real problem with Jerry as our GM. im not even saying it would have worked out. but it was worth a look.

 

[T-RO]

But what we can do is give credit to the Giants for at least taking a look. If it works out, great for them. If it doesn't, it didn't cost them anything.

Low-risk, high reward.

Fair enough. I can't argue with that...at least not until I see the terms required to get Andrews to sign.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Uh...he was a two-time pro-bowler, right?

It's a risk-reward proposition.

But given both the back problems and the mental problems I can't be very critical of the Cowboys for passing.

Bottom line: We fans don't have enough medical or personnel information to critique the deal, one way or the other.

Now if they considered signing him with the idea of putting him on IR like they did columbo...it might be a different thing.

I just don't see why anyone would be giving credit to another team for signing some guy that has had both medical and mental issues.

Now I guess if there is a distinction between just bringing him in to talk to him vs bringing him in to sign him it might be different. And some might be inferring one or the other.

Bringing him in to give him a physical I don't have a problem. Bringing him in to sign him...no thanks.

Now bringing him in and signing him is still not a you are not losing anything proposition and some claim. You are losing money, time and a roster spot if he does not pan out for you.

 

[Angus]

You had money to lose and a roster spot for someone else to lose.

There is not a situation of bringing a player in where you have nothing to lose.

And if you feel that what you have on your roster currently is better than taking a chance on someone with a bad back and mental issues...you would also lose time that you would waste on said player.

You don't sign someone just for the sake of signing them.

Good advice.

 

[Alexander]

Again, if it does not work, what have they lost? THEY HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE.

Moreover, they had even less of an incentive to bring him aboard.

Their line is relatively healthy compared to the Cowboys. They are not missing two starters. Snee has a tweaked knee, but as far as I am aware, he's not scheduled to miss much time.

Putting it this way, I doubt there would be nearly as much dismissal of the move if the Cowboys were the ones kicking Andrews' tires. This thread would be filled with "low risk-high reward!" fist-pumping.

 

[ShiningStar]

our mascot should be Snoopy throwing his head in the air and howling "RUUUEEEEEEEEEEEE" For all eternity.


Im so glad the Giants can get Shawn Andrews and they are wise and better and we get Barron and we are stupid and asking to lose the SB.

 

[Tom [Giants fan]]

because Snee has had a nagging knee injury. He is scheduled to come back soon but Andrews is probably just insurance. The Giants also said he had a great workout. They plan on taking it slow with him the rest of the preseason and he will see some time on the OLine.

The Giants put him through a workout for his back and it was good enough where they signed him. I'll trust the Giants' staff to know if he is capable of playing in the NFL with his back. And they will tell the next 3 or 4 weeks with workouts and preseason if it will hold up. As far as it costing them salary or a roster spot as has been suggested. The guy they cut wouldn't have made the roster anyway. And I'm sure they can afford the salary it will cost.

As far as his depression, he has been getting help for that. Reports say that he was in a cheery mood like he was before he became depressed. Of course, depression is tricky and can pop up at any time. I have it and know what it can do and how it can show up or disappear. But there really isn't much at risk here. And if it does work out, the Giants have themselves a Pro Bowl Olineman who is still only 27.

Definitely worth the roster spot and whatever salary it is costing them.

 

[Stash]

Now if they considered signing him with the idea of putting him on IR like they did columbo...it might be a different thing.

I just don't see why anyone would be giving credit to another team for signing some guy that has had both medical and mental issues.

Now I guess if there is a distinction between just bringing him in to talk to him vs bringing him in to sign him it might be different. And some might be inferring one or the other.

Bringing him in to give him a physical I don't have a problem. Bringing him in to sign him...no thanks.

Now bringing him in and signing him is still not a you are not losing anything proposition and some claim. You are losing money, time and a roster spot if he does not pan out for you.

Kinda like what the Cowboys are already losing carrying a talentless stiff like Pat McQuistan who has zero chance of making this roster?

That's a weak attempt at an excuse.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Kinda like what the Cowboys are already losing carrying a talentless stiff like Pat McQuistan who has zero chance of making this roster?

That's a weak attempt at an excuse.

It is not an excuse...it is a fact.

Paying someone to play for you is not losing nothing if he does not pan out.

I know you might not like that, but it is a fact.

Now I don't have a problem with the low risk, high reward mantra. Just not someone saying you lose nothing...when you very well do lose something if they don't pan out. You lose money, time and a roster spot even if you take into account you lose some JAG like McQ, it could also mean he was going to be gone anyway and some other player you wanted to keep on the team instead of chancing on the PS would stay.

Sorry I just don't see the need to give the giants credit for signing a player that has been out of football for two years with a bad back and mental issues. We can agree to disagree on that point. What we can not agree to disagree on is the idea that it costs them nothing to sign him when facts say otherwise.

Heck it may turn out to be the best decision and FA pickup they have had in years and he returns to pro bowl form or even better he is a All Pro player...but that still does not take away from the fact that it cost them nothing...unless he is playing for free and they don't lose another player.