Did Dallas miss out? Giants sign OL Shawn Andrews

[Tom [Giants fan]]

He was given some guaranteed money. Terms of the contract have not been given out yet but it is said that the guaranteed money is very little. The contract is loaded with incentives the second year.

He has had two back surgeries. The second one was December of last year.

There were other teams interested and tracking his progress. Those words came right from Andrews in an interview.

Of course there is no such thing as no risk in business. He is going to be paid something.

And right now, the roster spot isn't an issue because the rosters are high right now. If he makes the cuts and takes up a roster spot, he is showing enough to keep that spot.

Should the Giants be given a lot of credit for this move? Nope, not now at least. It is something they are hoping works out. The fact that he has mental issues as well as physical ones makes this a big question mark as to whether it will work out in the long run.

The fact is, the Giants are taking a chance with a guy who has been out of the league for 2 years with problems. But, they have also been keeping tabs on him for about 6 months or so now. I'm sure he has shown them enough to warrant the opportunity. I will trust the Giants' brass and the fact that they are actually seeing what he can do.

When you look at the big picture, saying there is no risk and possible high rewards is simplifying the sentiment that a roster spot right now and a few dollars relatively speaking aren't much to the Giants compared to what might be if he regains some of the form he had during his Pro Bowl years.

And that's all I have to say about that.

 

[DeaconBlues]

Mike Williams of the Commanders, part II.

How'd that work out?

For those believing Andrews was a valid option, name another OL out of the league for two years, then successfully came back and had a career.















I'll wait.

 

[The Emperor]

So what. He might have some tread left on the tire; he might not. I think the fact they made such a move shows how desperate the Giants are along the line.

 

[DeaconBlues]

Here. Let me throw some serious napalm into this thread.


Tony Washington.



And yes, I'm serious.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Here. Let me throw some serious napalm into this thread.


Tony Washington.



And yes, I'm serious.

Theyve made their stance on him clear

Id still rather employ a sister lover than an attempted murder like Pacman but what are you going to do

 

[DeaconBlues]

Theyve made their stance on him clear

Id still rather employ a sister lover than an attempted murder like Pacman but what are you going to do

Yes, they have. But I'm with you - if Pacman, Leonard Little and Ray Lewis can be given second (third, fourth . . ) chances, Washington should be given a first.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Mike Williams of the Commanders, part II.

How'd that work out?

For those believing Andrews was a valid option, name another OL out of the league for two years, then successfully came back and had a career.


I'll wait.

cool:

Well, he wasn't "out of the league for two years". He was on an NFL roster both years, but he basically had to sit out better part of two years with injury.

As far as naming other players who have sat out the better part of two years with injury and successfully came back and had a career...

 

[Chief]

Here. Let me throw some serious napalm into this thread.


Tony Washington.



And yes, I'm serious.

Was he never signed?

 

[DeaconBlues]

Well, he wasn't "out of the league for two years". He was on an NFL roster both years, but he basically had to sit out better part of two years with injury.

As far as naming other players who have sat out the better part of two years with injury and successfully came back and had a career...

Thanks for changing my question to fit your answer, but the question was:

[N]ame another OL out of the league for two years, then successfully came back and had a career.

Andrews wasn't out of the league due to injury, unless you consider his mental problems an injury.

Question still stands.

 

[Apluz]

To answer the question NO!

 

[InmanRoshi]

Was he never signed?

He's playing for the Dallas Vigilantes arena football team.

 

[The30YardSlant]

He's slow, fat, has a bad back and is absolutely bat**** crazy

 

[DeaconBlues]

Was he never signed?

Not by the NFL. AFL.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Thanks for changing my question to fit your answer, but the question was:
Andrews wasn't out of the league due to injury, unless you consider his mental problems an injury.

Do you consider back surgeries an injury?

He didn't miss any games with depression. He missed part of training camp and then returned. He started the first two games of 2008, and injured his his back in the 3rd game. He was put on IR and had surgery on it. He reinjured the back before training camp last year and had a 2nd surgery on it.

But you're right ... it isn't quite a fair comparison. Andrews started 2 games out of 2 years with injury. Colombo only started 2 games in 3 years with injury.

 

[InmanRoshi]

He's slow, fat, has a bad back and is absolutely bat**** crazy

I'll take a slow fat crazy guy who has played at a Pro Bowl level in the NFL over a slow fat lazy guy who has never amounted to anything like Montrae Holland.

 

[Chief]

He's playing for the Dallas Vigilantes arena football team.

I wonder how well he is playing.

From the articles I remember reading, he was young when he did that, showed remorse and his college coaches spoke highly of him. I would probably sign him.

 

[DeaconBlues]

Do you consider back surgeries an injury?

He didn't miss any games with depression. He missed part of training camp and then returned. He started the first two games of 2008, and injured his his back in the 3rd game. He was put on IR and had surgery on it. He reinjured the back before training camp last year and had a 2nd surgery on it.

But you're right ... it isn't quite a fair comparison. Andrews started 2 games out of 2 years with injury. Colombo only started 2 games in 3 years with injury.

He wasn't released due to injury. Philly got tired of his "dedication."

"We appreciate the efforts and contributions of Shawn while he was in Philadelphia," coach Andy Reid said in a statement. "We have, however, decided to move in another direction."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5003245

 

[Alexander]

I wonder how well he is playing.

From the articles I remember reading, he was young when he did that, showed remorse and his college coaches spoke highly of him. I would probably sign him.

http://www.dallasvigilantes.com/roster

I don't see Tony Washington on that roster.

 

[The30YardSlant]

I'll take a slow fat crazy guy who has played at a Pro Bowl level in the NFL over a slow fat lazy guy who has never amounted to anything like Montrae Holland.

I'd rather not have either, but no reason to add another headcase with marginal ability

 

[InmanRoshi]

He wasn't released due to injury. Philly got tired of his "dedication."

"We appreciate the efforts and contributions of Shawn while he was in Philadelphia," coach Andy Reid said in a statement. "We have, however, decided to move in another direction."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5003245

Oh, you're changing the goalposts now? I thought you said the two years he missed weren't due to injuries? (BTW, nowhere in that quote does it say the Eagles are releasing him because of dedication).

Yeah, I'm sure those consecutive back surgeries and high salary had nothing to do with the release. Nope, it was all concerns about "dedication". Because the Eagles value "dedication" in their offensive lineman above all things. That's why they keep those sleek, high motor types like Max Jean Giles and Stacy Andrews around.