Did Jarwin block Bobby Wagner in the back on Dak's 3rd and 14 run?

[Rayman70]

yes he did. NEXT. LOL....it isn't a foul if it isn't called.

 

[Rayman70]

I will always remember fondly how Dak put this teams fate on his back on that heroic play. Its gonna be known as the Helicopter on 3rd and 14 that sealed the game. We forget the brutal hit he took on his leg,as well as the helmet hit he took the following play for the go ahead.I take back any doubt I ever had about him after what he did against the Giants..the manner in which he did, then the Seattle game. The Giants game may have been more important than we think.He gained tremendous confidence going forward...leaps and bounds. KUDOS TO JASON GARRETT FOR HAVING THE GONADS playing him all game. That decision in part,is why we are here. Dak has that extra it factor now...which is a supreme belief.

 

[MarcusRock]

It would absolutely have been a ballsy call, had it been a "make it or lose" play, but from what I've heard (haven't looked into the veracity of the claim, but seems reasonable) they weren't really expecting more than better FG position.

That said, Dak saw an opening and made the most of it...Great job!

My whole point that seems to be getting misunderstood by some, is that I've seen more impressive plays from Dak, and I'm sure we'll see even more impressive plays in the future.

Oh I agree that it's not the best play he's ever made. It's the situation that made it great. We kick a FG and go up 6 with plenty of time for Seattle to score a TD to win and you know what it would have been like around here if that happened.

 

[Risen Star]

He barely touched him, would have been very ticky tack, especially when you consider some of the calls that weren't made. The obvious PI by the Seahawks on Brown. The facemask by Dallas on Wilson early in the game. Their OL absolutely hog collaring our DT on a 2nd and 15 in the second quarter where they got 7 yards, instead of having to face 2nd and 25. They eventually kicked a FG on that drive.

Yeah I wasn't talking about anything other than what was asked. Was it a block in the back? Yes. I think it was.

 

[Kevinicus]

what did dak do that was great on that play?...…………………………….he saw the opening and took it.
ran straight?...………………………….of course he did. why do anything else when that's where the hole is?
made elusive moves?...………………………...why? there was no need. the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. basic geometry.
powered through tackles?...……………………………….why would he do that when there are openings in front of him.
carried guys on his back?...…………………………………..he hit the hole so fast no one could touch him.
in summation, he did everything necessary to make a critical first down under very difficult circumstances. no one could have done anything more. your entire line of reasoning appears more argumentum ad hominem than anything else.

So basically, you agree with my assessment? He ran straight and didn't get much resistance. The one spot he should have met resistance the Seahawks blew it.

I didn't say he did anything wrong or didn't do what he should have done. I just said he didn't do anything particularly special. I'm not sure how that is argumentum ad hominem.

I will say the one part I disagree with is the "he hit the hole so fast no one could touch him." That is just not accurate IMO.

 

[Kevinicus]

That's a huge oversimplification. First, he had to see the hole, sidestep a D-Lineman in the backfield and time it just right when he took off. Second, there were subtle changes in speed and direction that contributed to the misses - it doesn't always take dramatic cuts to make a play, and sometimes the more subtle ones are harder to see. Specifically you will notice a slight veer to the right just before Wagner got there, which helped avoid Wagner, and also threw off the defender coming from the opposite direction, and at that convergence of bodies, he accelerated to get through. Third, even though he wasn't hit solidly, it doesn't take much to trip a runner, and he was able to keep his balance. And finally, and probably most importantly, many QB's would have opted to go with the safe slide to preserve the FG rather than take a big hit, and even though the big hit didn't come, there was no way Dak could have known that. He clearly was mentally prepared to take whatever came to make it to the first down marker.

See the hole? It was a designed draw with a huge hole up to a point. The hole closed about 8-10 yards down field where Wagner made a terrible effort and let Dak go by nearly unscathed. There is no excuse for Wagner to miss the way he did. Dak's "subtle" changes don't account for it. It was just a piss poor attempt. The other defender wasn't thrown off. He dove at Dak and barely got a piece of him. Nothing more to it. It doesn't take much to trip a runner...if they are hit in the right way. That didn't happen here. The QBs who would have gone to the safe slide wouldn't be running a QB draw. The teams would not call it. For those QBs who do tend to run, very few would, if any, would have slid there, and all of them likely get the first down as well. None of my comments are criticisms of Dak. I'm just not jumping on the "OMG WHAT A GUTSY RUN" bandwagon. It's kind of amusing how you guys jump out to defend him because someone doesn't say he was amazing.

 

[Kevinicus]

You don't sound happy at all. You sound salty as a mofo.

LOL. Look at your comments to me and then tell me about being "salty."

I'm being jumped on because I didn't worship at the feet of Dak. Not for criticism, but lack of worship. That is extremely disturbing.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I think it was a holding call on that play and the block did have some jersey in his hand. It was still a very ticky tack call but it occurred right in front of the ref. could have been devastating if we lost.

Exactly right. That is exactly the call and that is exactly what happened and it was not much, for sure. Put he did have some Jersey.

 

[TheCount]

LOL. Look at your comments to me and then tell me about being "salty."

I'm being jumped on because I didn't worship at the feet of Dak. Not for criticism, but lack of worship. That is extremely disturbing.

Don't be dramatic, you're not being "jumped on", jesus.

 

[Ranched]

 

[Kevinicus]

Don't be dramatic, you're not being "jumped on", jesus.

Lol, right. That's why people chime in trying to insinuate I am on drugs and are saying I'm salty.

 

[percyhoward]

All costs? What costs? He ran straight and was barely touched until after the first down.

Then what, the defenders would just pull up as soon as he got the first down? The play would be blown dead? What would have stopped the hit in my sig from happening? And for that matter, how would he know Wagner wasn't going to blow him up?

The one spot he should have met resistance the Seahawks blew it.

Which means you were expecting him to meet resistance, and he probably assumed the same, and didn't care.

 

[cern]

So basically, you agree with my assessment? He ran straight and didn't get much resistance. The one spot he should have met resistance the Seahawks blew it.

I didn't say he did anything wrong or didn't do what he should have done. I just said he didn't do anything particularly special. I'm not sure how that is argumentum ad hominem.

I will say the one part I disagree with is the "he hit the hole so fast no one could touch him." That is just not accurate IMO.

if that is what you gleaned from my comments, so be it. I thought it was special. a critical play.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

So you have nothing factual to say that disputes what I said?

Factual? The ball was in his hands in the 4th quarter and they won.....how much many more facts do you need? Had he thrown a pick the game would've been lost on him.

 

[Kevinicus]

if that is what you gleaned from my comments, so be it. I thought it was special. a critical play.

It was a hugely critical play. It just didn't require anything special to be achieved.

 

[Kevinicus]

Factual? The ball was in his hands in the 4th quarter and they won.....how much many more facts do you need? Had he thrown a pick the game would've been lost on him.

Wrong. Individual players don't win or lose.

And I, having an actual functioning brain, required a lot more facts than that to properly analyze a play.

 

[Whyjerry]

Just looked at the replay amazed that Dak got by Wagner. I think it might have been because Jarwin blocked Wagner in the back. What say you?

Go to the 6 minute mark in the video, which shows multiple replays of the play.

Just curious, because it would have been a game changer if they would've called the penalty.

A non call. Seattle could have been flagged 10 times for holding.

 

[Kevinicus]

Then what, the defenders would just pull up as soon as he got the first down? The play would be blown dead? What would have stopped the hit in my sig from happening? And for that matter, how would he know Wagner wasn't going to blow him up?


Which means you were expecting him to meet resistance, and he probably assumed the same, and didn't care.

Okay, so he was not going to slide? And? I would hope no NFL player would in that situation. Not sliding makes the play great? That's the standard now?

 

[Runwildboys]

@America's Cowboy check this out. Come on brother, that's fairly straight.

 

[Awakened]

Okay, so he was not going to slide? And? I would hope no NFL player would in that situation. Not sliding makes the play great? That's the standard now?

You have issues