Did Sunday change how you view the game

[5Stars]

If defense wins championships, does that make the Cowboys the least likely team to win a championship?

Well, when you are last in the NFL on defense, what do you think?

 

[DFWJC]

It was a classic snowball affect game and, except for one day, did not reflect the margin of difference between the two teams.
Seattle just rolled them big time.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

Well, when you are last in the NFL on defense, what do you think?

I think we're on the same page

 

[Hawk]

After all these years, its still just football, the SB was terrible, has exactly nothing to do with the Cowboys this year.

 

[percyhoward]

If Sunday has more people talking about pass defense, and fewer people talking about things like YAC and TOP, that's a good thing.

 

[dstovall5]

Nope. But I do think a ton of people are taking the wrong--or at least only half--message from that game.

I'm curious, what message do you think people are wrongly taking?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

At the end of the day, I think we can all agree that our team has a significant amount of ground to make up before we can compete with a team like Seattle. Even if you look at our game against them, in 2012, they pretty much whipped us. Even the most die hard Romo fan has to look at that game and come to the conclusion that they took him out of his game.

That's what a dominating defense can do to QBs and offenses as a whole. Even great QBs.

 

[Idgit]

I'm curious, what message do you think people are wrongly taking?

Yeah, I think I addressed that in a different thread on the same topic, and got the two confused. Mostly, I think the easy mistake to make is that it's about defense and the running game as opposed to that it's about passing it more efficiently than the other team can pass it. SEA won because you can't throw it against them effectively and can't string together long drives without making a mistake. It makes it easy for them to outperform you on offense if they just stay within their capabilities and don't take risks in the passing game.

Throw in a ST score and a +2 or more TO differential, and you're going to win that game, almost every time. No matter who you have running the ball and how poorly or how well they do it.

The other big wrong takeaway is that the SEA team won because of the DL only, which obviously isn't true for anybody who watched that game and saw how that secondary covered and hit.

 

[Idgit]

At the end of the day, I think we can all agree that our team has a significant amount of ground to make up before we can compete with a team like Seattle. Even if you look at our game against them, in 2012, they pretty much whipped us. Even the most die hard Romo fan has to look at that game and come to the conclusion that they took him out of his game.

That's what a dominating defense can do to QBs and offenses as a whole. Even great QBs.

Manning's getting a *bit* of a bum rap for that game. Sure, he threw two backbreaking interceptions while trying to make a play when he should not have. No excuses, there. But, beyond those huge mistakes, he completed the balls where they needed to go. It's just that that secondary jumped every route and was right there with a solid tackle or punching out a ball every single time. If Denver isn't getting YAC, they're not beating you down the field on the deep passes outside. Even the TE matchup wasn't a win for them on Sunday. Neither could they make the plays on the screens with linemen out in space against DLs and WRs on CBs. They just got straight-up snuffed on all of those plays. It was really impressive.

 

[Redball Express]

I'll be honest, I thought Denver was going to take Seattle out fairly easily. I thought giving Peyton two weeks with weapons like DeMarius, Julius and Welker was going to be too much for Seattle given that they aren't an especially potent offense.

I was predicting like a 28-17 type score.

I've been an offensive guy forever, but Sunday's game made me view that bringing in Linehan is not going to help unless we

A) Have 5 studs up front to give the QB time - that's what killed Manning was his OL.

B) Use the run a lot more to make the 1-on-1 matchups easier in the secondary when we do pass.

Before the game I was all for taking Kelvin Benjamin in the 1st round and putting him next to Dez. I'm now completely against that. It's going to be weird looking at the game from a different vantage point.

Did Sunday's game change how you view the game as well?

Not really.

The defense needs players..not patients.

Change that and the offense can probably get us into the playoffs.

 

[Beast_from_East]

If defense wins championships, does that make the Cowboys the least likely team to win a championship?

Lets just say the odds of winning a championship are not very high when you have multiple games where the other team never even punts.

We are like the anti-Seattle defense..............LOL

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I'll be honest, I thought Denver was going to take Seattle out fairly easily. I thought giving Peyton two weeks with weapons like DeMarius, Julius and Welker was going to be too much for Seattle given that they aren't an especially potent offense.

I was predicting like a 28-17 type score.

I've been an offensive guy forever, but Sunday's game made me view that bringing in Linehan is not going to help unless we

A) Have 5 studs up front to give the QB time - that's what killed Manning was his OL.

B) Use the run a lot more to make the 1-on-1 matchups easier in the secondary when we do pass.

Before the game I was all for taking Kelvin Benjamin in the 1st round and putting him next to Dez. I'm now completely against that. It's going to be weird looking at the game from a different vantage point.

Did Sunday's game change how you view the game as well?

Nope. Pretty much everyone knew prior to this game that great defenses win out over great offenses most of the time. This isn't something new. The new NFL, where they're doing everything they can to make the game nothing but offense would like people to think differently, as they've done with you, but this is nothing new at all.

I thought Seattle would win in a much closer, tighter, game but I figured Seattle would win.

 

[RS12]

Did Sunday change how you view the game

Nope, old school football will never go out of style no matter what the "new" NFL says or how they try and make it a pass happy league. Dominant defense and a balanced offense wins, always has, always will.

 

[Aven8]

A corvette challenged a dump truck, and the dump truck won.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Manning's getting a *bit* of a bum rap for that game. Sure, he threw two backbreaking interceptions while trying to make a play when he should not have. No excuses, there. But, beyond those huge mistakes, he completed the balls where they needed to go. It's just that that secondary jumped every route and was right there with a solid tackle or punching out a ball every single time. If Denver isn't getting YAC, they're not beating you down the field on the deep passes outside. Even the TE matchup wasn't a win for them on Sunday. Neither could they make the plays on the screens with linemen out in space against DLs and WRs on CBs. They just got straight-up snuffed on all of those plays. It was really impressive.

Seattle gave Manning the deep ball, for the most part. They used a lot of man to man on the deep routes and pulled their safeties up to basically support the run or kill those short to intermediate routes. They were very good in that regard and they allowed Denver to try and beat them deep. Manning, when he had time, was simply unable to put the ball on target and hit those deep shots. Really, if you watched Manning all year, you probably new this was the case. Manning from 4 years ago would have made Seattle pay. Not anymore. I think Manning is done. I hope he doesn't come back next year because I think this will be the game plan and I would rather not see Manning suffer for it. JMO.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Defense brings Rings.

 

[Seven]

Fastest linebackers in the league and safeties......I don't have the words. Smart doesn't do them justice. Phenomenal.

Dared Mannig ALL night.

Poor game plan by Denver. You don't account for Harvin? Oopsie.

No, it didn't change my opinion. It was refreshing. What a young, hungry squad of athletes we may never see assembled on one team for another ten years. They are that good.

 

[crazytown41]

Not really. A dominant pass rush will always beat a dominant offense. I think the Peyton adulation clouded people's judgement. This was just the Pats/Giants SB all over again. Except the pick 6 and KO TD put the game way out of reach.

 

[Clove]

I think we need to think outta the box ... and draft based on size and athletic ability. Get guys that are huge and can run and play D. At all the positions on Defense. DBs ... 6' 2 ... 6'4 .. can run like the wind 200-220lbs. LBs ... 6-3 to 6-6 250-275 lbs and run and hit like mack trucks. DL 280-300+ can stuff the run and chase the QB.

I guess im dreamin ... this team loves the mighty mouse DBs and LBs ... *sigh*

I've seen a lot of good points of the last few days and I like them, including this one.

It's funny how 20 years later, Jimmy's philosophy is still a strong one. Big fast guys from big schools who can run and who has a step on your throat attitude.

That team was NOT scared at all. They came out and just stomped that team in to submission. On offense it's simple, have an offense who is opportunistic, and a QB who doesn't make mistakes.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

I think Manning is done. I hope he doesn't come back next year because I think this will be the game plan and I would rather not see Manning suffer for it. JMO.

So, done as in 45 TDs instead of 55, and only 30 1st place MVP votes instead of 49?