Did The Cowboys Finally Get A Fourth Round Pick Right?

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Think back to the fourth round of the NFL Draft in May. In the two previous days, the Dallas Cowboys had selected Zack Martin and Demarcus Lawrence and most draft “experts” were raving about the Cowboys draft so far. And then, the infamous fourth round came about and the Cowboys selected a player most people didn’t know and it reminded people at how bad the Cowboys have truly drafted in that round in the last decade:

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I would argue that Dallas has had better success in the fourth round the last three years, as all three players started Sunday on defense and all have made plays for this team. Many players on this list failed to stay on the team multiple years and a few (Green and Johnson) never played a snap for the Cowboys in the regular season. But let’s back up for a second.

When the Cowboys were on the clock in the fourth round this year, many people including myself, were looking at other big name players for the Cowboys to draft such as Telvin Smith, Cyril Richardson, Cauran Reid, or DeAnthony Thomas and were extremely disappointed when they passed on them for a relative unknown player. So when the Cowboys took Anthony Hitchens in the fourth round, people were upset and the expert’s did what they do best, give their opinion of the Cowboys’ reach of a pick:

“Although Hitchens is an aggressive hitter and technical tackler, he was a coverage liability in the Big Ten, and figures to max out in the pros as a reserve/special teams type. For a team that really needed defensive upgrades, Hitchens was a disappointing reach.” – Rotoworld.com

“I’m just not sure where he (Anthony Hitchens) fits in. He seems like more of a depth player, more of a special teams player for me.” – Matt Miller, Bleacher Report .

At the time, linebacker seemed like the least of the Cowboys issues if you remember correctly. Going into the draft, the Cowboys had penciled in Sean Lee in the middle, with Bruce Carter at the weak-side with DeVonte Holloman and Kyle Wilber battling for the strong-side job.

Read the rest at: http://cover32.com/cowboys/2014/11/12/did-the-dallas-cowboys-finally-hit-their-mark-by-drafting-anthony-hitchens/
 
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I always like the Hitchens picks and I knew he would come on when they stated he knew his assigments in TC.
 

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I would settle for a Wilber that can come in and be a rotational guy in the 4th round. But you can't completely miss like on the Owosu and Matt Johnson picks.
 

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I would settle for a Wilber that can come in and be a rotational guy in the 4th round. But you can't completely miss like on the Owosu and Matt Johnson picks.

I don't think you can help but have a pick like Johnson. From all accounts, it appears he would have been a contributor if he had stayed healthy. Injuries happen and derail careers.

There are a lot of projects rather than players on this list, though. Although I admit to being fairly excited about what I read on most of them at the time they were drafted.
 

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What really baffles me are the Cowboys picks like Arkin, who didn't have the measurables, played against inferior competition at a small school and on top of that needed polish and experience. To say someone like Arkin was a reach is an understatement.
 

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That is a really pathetic list.

Pathetic? Compared to what? Let me give you exhibit A:

2006 G Willie Colon
2007 P Sepulveda
2008 T Hills
2010 DE Gibson
2011 DB Allen
2012 DL Ta'amu
2013 S Thomas
2014 WR Bryant

Or how about exhibit B:
2006 DT Cofield
2007 LB DeOssie
2008 LB Kehl
2009 RB Brown
2010 LB Dillard
2011 OL Brewer
2012 TE Robinson
2012 OL Mosley
2013 QB Nassib
2014 RB Williams
 

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Pathetic? Compared to what? Let me give you exhibit A:

2006 G Willie Colon
2007 P Sepulveda
2008 T Hills
2010 DE Gibson
2011 DB Allen
2012 DL Ta'amu
2013 S Thomas
2014 WR Bryant

Or how about exhibit B:
2006 DT Cofield
2007 LB DeOssie
2008 LB Kehl
2009 RB Brown
2010 LB Dillard
2011 OL Brewer
2012 TE Robinson
2012 OL Mosley
2013 QB Nassib
2014 RB Williams

Jerry loves fans like you, excuse incompetence by pointing out incompetence on another team. No need to demand comptence just find someone else who did poorly.
 

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Free is not chopped liver

I did not know he's been in the league for 7 years

I think he will resign cheap

because I think this the place to be the next couple of years
 

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Jerry loves fans like you, excuse incompetence by pointing out incompetence on another team. No need to demand comptence just find someone else who did poorly.

Well just to be fair do you give Jerry credit for the picks that worked out?
 

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Think back to the fourth round of the NFL Draft in May. In the two previous days, the Dallas Cowboys had selected Zack Martin and Demarcus Lawrence and most draft “experts” were raving about the Cowboys draft so far. And then, the infamous fourth round came about and the Cowboys selected a player most people didn’t know and it reminded people at how bad the Cowboys have truly drafted in that round in the last decade:

4th-Round-Picks.jpg


I would argue that Dallas has had better success in the fourth round the last three years, as all three players started Sunday on defense and all have made plays for this team. Many players on this list failed to stay on the team multiple years and a few (Green and Johnson) never played a snap for the Cowboys in the regular season. But let’s back up for a second.

When the Cowboys were on the clock in the fourth round this year, many people including myself, were looking at other big name players for the Cowboys to draft such as Telvin Smith, Cyril Richardson, Cauran Reid, or DeAnthony Thomas and were extremely disappointed when they passed on them for a relative unknown player. So when the Cowboys took Anthony Hitchens in the fourth round, people were upset and the expert’s did what they do best, give their opinion of the Cowboys’ reach of a pick:

“Although Hitchens is an aggressive hitter and technical tackler, he was a coverage liability in the Big Ten, and figures to max out in the pros as a reserve/special teams type. For a team that really needed defensive upgrades, Hitchens was a disappointing reach.” – Rotoworld.com

“I’m just not sure where he (Anthony Hitchens) fits in. He seems like more of a depth player, more of a special teams player for me.” – Matt Miller, Bleacher Report .

At the time, linebacker seemed like the least of the Cowboys issues if you remember correctly. Going into the draft, the Cowboys had penciled in Sean Lee in the middle, with Bruce Carter at the weak-side with DeVonte Holloman and Kyle Wilber battling for the strong-side job.

Read the rest at: http://cover32.com/cowboys/2014/11/12/did-the-dallas-cowboys-finally-hit-their-mark-by-drafting-anthony-hitchens/

ewww....
Isiah Stanback, AOA, Stephen McGee and Skylar Green.... yuk...
 

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4th round picks and later barely ever make it in the NFL, unless you get lucky and get a diamond in the ruff. People get way too caught up on these picks, they are essentially worthless except for trade value on draft day. I would even trade away a 3rd round pick for the chance to get a potential stud in round 1.

Here is some stats on 4th rounders.

Out of 468 players taken in round 4 since 1999, 44 of them have started for 3 seasons or more.
Out of 468 players taken in round 4 since 1999, 20 of them have started for 5 seasons or more.
Out of 468 players taken in round 4 since 1999, 2 of them have started for 7 seasons or more.

http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=440951
 

TwoCentPlain

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Jerry loves fans like you, excuse incompetence by pointing out incompetence on another team. No need to demand comptence just find someone else who did poorly.

All right. Fair enough.:cool: Tell me what 'competence' is when judging 4th rd draft picks from 2006-present. Multiple pro-bowlers? Multiple hall of famers? What percentage of hits in the 4th rd qualifies as 'competent?' I gave you two bona-fide, real GMs and their 4th rd draft history over the same period.

Or is it just more of the haters-gonna-hate? "My team didn't win the superbowl. I hate the GM. Waa waa waa ..."
 

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Did the Dallas Cowboys finally hit their mark by drafting Anthony Hitchens?
By Marcus Mosher
November 12, 2014 1:08 pm CST
http://cover32.com/cowboys/2014/11/...-hit-their-mark-by-drafting-anthony-hitchens/


Think back to the fourth round of the NFL Draft in May. In the two previous days, the Dallas Cowboys had selected Zack Martin and Demarcus Lawrence and most draft “experts” were raving about the Cowboys draft so far. And then, the infamous fourth round came about and the Cowboys selected a player most people didn’t know and it reminded people at how bad the Cowboys have truly drafted in that round in the last decade:

I would argue that Dallas has had better success in the fourth round the last three years, as all three players started Sunday on defense and all have made plays for this team. Many players on this list failed to stay on the team multiple years and a few (Green and Johnson) never played a snap for the Cowboys in the regular season. But let’s back up for a second.

When the Cowboys were on the clock in the fourth round this year, many people including myself, were looking at other big name players for the Cowboys to draft such as Telvin Smith, Cyril Richardson, Cauran Reid, or DeAnthony Thomas and were extremely disappointed when they passed on them for a relative unknown player. So when the Cowboys took Anthony Hitchens in the fourth round, people were upset and the expert’s did what they do best, give their opinion of the Cowboys’ reach of a pick: “Although Hitchens is an aggressive hitter and technical tackler, he was a coverage liability in the Big Ten, and figures to max out in the pros as a reserve/special teams type.

For a team that really needed defensive upgrades, Hitchens was a disappointing reach.” – Rotoworld.com “I’m just not sure where he (Anthony Hitchens) fits in. He seems like more of a depth player, more of a special teams player for me.” – Matt Miller, Bleacher Report At the time, linebacker seemed like the least of the Cowboys issues if you remember correctly. Going into the draft, the Cowboys had penciled in Sean Lee in the middle, with Bruce Carter at the weak-side with DeVonte Holloman and Kyle Wilbur battling for the strong-side job.

Justin Durant was capable of backing up all three positions and a mid to late round rookie would just clog up the back-end of the roster and would be relegated to special teams duties only. Fast forward to Sunday and you will see that Sean Lee, DeVonte Holloman, Justin Durant are all gone for the season and Rolando McClain is sitting this one out. And now rookie linebacker Anthony Hitchens is starting. Hitchens was the defensive star of the game and many, including myself, are wondering how good this player can become? Is he good enough that you can forgo signing Bruce Carter and Justin Durant in the offseason?

Those are all great questions that we will discuss in the offseason, but it’s time to see why Hitchens was so effective in London. Coming out of college, I knew that Anthony Hitchens could play with power. When his body is in position, he can wreak havoc on a defense and stonewall running backs. Here are two examples of that from Sunday:




...The first Vine of Hitchens is the one most fans remember. On fourth down, Hitchens blasted 230 lbs. Toby Gerhart backwards for no yardage. Sometimes when you watch a player, it’s the plays that they make that aren’t tackles for a loss or sacks, or turnovers that impress you. For example, most everyone remembers Larry Allen’s tackle versus the Saints to save a touchdown. Many fans probably remember Tyron Smith’s horse-coller tackle in week one in 2012 to save a touchdown on opening night versus the Giants.

...Anthony Hitchens had a similar type of play Sunday. Jacksonville receiver Cecil Shorts caught a short pass and broke the Cowboys coverage open and was racing down the sideline. But behind him, running step for step was Anthony Hitchens. This tackle and effort saved the Cowboys seven points as Jacksonville turned the ball over on the very next play. Here it is if you don’t remember:


...These types of plays are what endear coaches to certain players. Never give up on a play, no matter what. Hitchens has far succeeded many expectations so far this season and I expect him to keep on impressing. Maybe with Hitchens, Wilcox and Wilber, the Cowboys can turn around the recent nightmarish fourth round for the team...
 

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Pathetic? Compared to what? Let me give you exhibit A:

2006 G Willie Colon
2007 P Sepulveda
2008 T Hills
2010 DE Gibson
2011 DB Allen
2012 DL Ta'amu
2013 S Thomas
2014 WR Bryant

Or how about exhibit B:
2006 DT Cofield
2007 LB DeOssie
2008 LB Kehl
2009 RB Brown
2010 LB Dillard
2011 OL Brewer
2012 TE Robinson
2012 OL Mosley
2013 QB Nassib
2014 RB Williams
Just because Pitt and NYG suck doesn't make Dallas' picks any better.
 
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